Warcraft

[necromanthus]

Finally,the first public preview !
It's just the beginning,so don't ask too much.
http://necromanthus.com/Games/Flash/warcraft.html
warning: "multitasking" engine !!! (not tested on entry-level machines).
Sound ON !
I need all my friends opinions & sugestions.
(I'm searching for possible bugs)
p.s.
both versions (KoolMoves & Flash MX) are developed at the same time.
cheers
:mrpimp:

[OwenAus]

LOL.

Looks (almost) just like the real thing!

Pathfinding - the little peasants get foiled too easily by obstacles.

But that is a tough call - I know that pathfinding is a begger of a thing and a good algorythym can rip the ooomph out of a machine.

BTW Necro (Remus?) where are you from and what do you do - if you don't mind a personal question or two.

Owen

Addendum: Sound sometimes goes buzzy, then comes good again.

[necromanthus]

Owen is the first (as I expected);)
1) about PathFinding ... this is not a bug.
This feature isn't implemented yet (is on my "to do" list).
But don't forget that I can't play with ActionScript as I can play with C++.(I try to avoid Flash HUGE limitations).
2) About myself ...visit my MUSIC section for more details.
3)Sound Buzzy ...this is not a bug.
It happends (sometimes) when is more than one "chopper" (sound multiplied).In a next version I'll put a button for Sound ON/OFF.
thanx
;)

[bridelh]

Very Good!
I just need some instructions on how to play Warcraft.
I have lead a very sheltered life...

Hilary

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[necromanthus]

Originally posted by bridelh
Very Good!
I just need some instructions on how to play Warcraft.
I have lead a very sheltered life...

Hilary

At this time,peasants can only chop some trees and "dig" for gold.
more is commin'...
p.s.
I can "improve" your life and make you happy :p
thanx for reply

[tmoore935]

I played warcraft. It is like age of empires I beleive. I let it play on its own for 15 minutes while the workers collected gold and wood. The score kept track of the gold and wood as the workers gathered. The farm did not work for me. There was no problem with sound. I played on a 450 pIII and a 550 amd with no problem or lagging. This is pretty cool.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by tmoore935
I played on a 450 pIII and a 550 amd with no problem or lagging. This is pretty cool.

Great information ! (I had a bad feeling about those with processors under 800MHz)
Thanx tmoore
;)

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by tmoore935
I played on a 450 pIII and a 550 amd with no problem or lagging. This is pretty cool.

Great information ! (I had a bad feeling about those with processors under 800MHz)
Thanx tmoore
;)
p.s.
At this stage,the FARM is only for fun! (sound)

[johnie]

Works on my old K6 ...

Hilary Warcarft has a freeware clone, not quite as good, called Lord Monarch http://www.falcom.com/monarch/index_e.html

Although I must admit the FastFood levels in Lord Monarch are amusing.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by johnie
Works on my old K6 ...
Hilary Warcarft has a freeware clone, not quite as good, called Lord Monarch http://www.falcom.com/monarch/index_e.html
Although I must admit the FastFood levels in Lord Monarch are amusing.

Glad to hear a flash-master's "voice".
Johnie,I think it's time to buy a P4/3GHz for yourself. :p
About "Lord Monarch"...cool graphics,but NO engine !
Warcraft is a RTS (Real Time Strategy)!
I'm waiting for more from you !
cheers
:mrpimp:

[OwenAus]

Lord Monarch

You guys can read Japanese?
:confused:

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by OwenAus
Lord Monarch
You guys can read Japanese?
:confused:

The second link: "2. ds7e.zip(CA. US.)" is for the english version.
But to be onest ...I'm not impressed.
:mrpimp:

[johnie]

Originally posted by OwenAus
Lord Monarch

You guys can read Japanese?
:confused:


There is an english version...

Its not the as high quality as something you would buy, well it is free, but it is a very basic and freeware clone of the Warcraft genre.

[OwenAus]

If you guys like strategic and tactical games, there is a very complex and detailed game (free) at http://www.matrixgames.com/ called SPWAW or Steel Panthers World at War.

This thing goes right down to the ammo left per weapon type per unit. It has hundreds, maybe thousands of scenarios and campaigns, and more being developed by the SPWAW addicts all the time.

Scenario and campaign editors, many nations, attempts realism, good graphics, user community, reasonable AI, multi-player capabilities, also play by email, etc.

SPWAW is a huge (7mb) download and has a learning curve.

[necromanthus]

The first mission and a lot of new features:
- buttons for basic actions: dig for gold,build,repair & stop
- buttons for buildings: great hall,barrack,lumber mill & farm
- infos panel (!)
- expanded & improved engine (!)
http://necromanthus.com/Games/Flash/warcraft.html
I need your opinions and sugestions.
Have fun.

p.s.
Guys,we're talking about Flash (SWF) games here !

[necromanthus]

What new feature do you need more ?
What do you dislike ?
Some bug ?
...

[bridelh]

Great stuff Necro!
The only issue I saw was if I have all the "workers" doing the same job, they tend to get in each others way and get stuck. They also get stuck behind objects when they have completed a task and you then you have to click on them to get them to move and they drop their logs or gold...

Hee hee... I like it...
Well done.

Hilary

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[necromanthus]

Originally posted by bridelh
Great stuff Necro!
The only issue I saw was if I have all the "workers" doing the same job, they tend to get in each others way and get stuck. They also get stuck behind objects when they have completed a task and you then you have to click on them to get them to move and they drop their logs or gold...


At this time,the peasants are very dummy.
For them,the unique way is the shortest way.
This is because of the missing "PathFinding" (is on my "to do" list).
Thanx Hilary ;)

[OwenAus]

This is really shaping up!

Looking forward to the point where we can pit orc against human. :)

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by OwenAus
This is really shaping up!

Looking forward to the point where we can pit orc against human. :)

Me too,Owen.
The first battle is commin' (but not too soon).
I have to finish with the basic features of "the human civilization"...ha ha ha
cheers
:p

[bridelh]

Where do you get the images for this kind of stuff?

Are you going to release an early version of this in KM so people can see how to do this kind of stuff? - that would be cool...

Hilary

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[johnie]

After my woodcutters cut down one tree they stop....

Not a huge issue. Just have to restart them on another group of trees.

You know what would be a neat feature to add is a random map generator in which the maps are generated on load- Like Nethack. That would be neat.

A save feature would also be neat. You could do that with a cookie.


Attaching Cookie sample...

[necromanthus]

for Hilary..
1) At this time KoolMoves version of Warcraft is huge & buggy.
reasons: no "Movie-Library" and no "GetBounds" instruction.
BOB promissed me (and us,of course) a Movie-Library in a future version.If I have a WORKING Movie-Library,you'll have the FUN file from Warcraft !(but NO graphics).Why ?
2)I'm using Blizzard's Characters Graphic Library.
For copyright reasons,I can't give objects from it !

for Johnie
After my woodcutters cut down one tree they stop....
It's true.In the original game (in a lot of cases) they do the same !
Maybe I'll fix this.
a neat feature to add is a random map generator
I hope you realize that I could easy implement a random map,but this is not the point.
The original game has "fixed" maps for each mission.
I wanna respect their work !

Thanks both of you for sugestions and I'm waitin' for more
cheers
:mrpimp:

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by johnie
A save feature would also be neat. You could do that with a cookie.

Excellent idea !
But your solution (with cookies) is not what I have in mind.
(a lot of people delete the cookies at the end of a session)
I'll use an advanced SAVE system (CGI or PHP based) with username,password,mission number,stats,etc...)

:mrpimp:

[necromanthus]

new features:
- Lumber MILL
increased lumber production and new target for choppers (!)
- expanded map (x4) (!)
enough area to build your (future) city.
- MiniMap monitor & controller (!!!)
now you can control everything with a single mouse click.
- a lot of corrections.

note: not enough tested.
I need SMART testers ! ;)
cheers

[OwenAus]

Smart testers ?!!? That counts me out .. I'll just be an opinionated observer.

Looking better all the time. :)

[The Action Scripter]

I'd be a tester if you'd like, Necro.

[necromanthus]

Thanx guys.
Here's a tip:
Flash 6 Player works 50% faster than Flash 6 plug-in.
I'll make a Warcraft projector for you,but until then,just check your "Temporary Internet Files" and search for "warcraft.swf"
;)
Some bugs,something ?

[tmoore935]

Originally posted by necromanthus



new features:
enough area to build your (future) city.

I do not remember how to build a city or dwelling? I don't know if I actully played the original game but I have played similar ones.

I need SMART testers ! ;)
cheers

What is a smart tester? Also the program works on my 450 and 550 MHz computers. I mean that their is no lag or choppy screens.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by tmoore935
What is a smart tester? Also the program works on my 450 and 550 MHz computers. I mean that their is no lag or choppy screens.

1) A "smart" tester is a ... joke !
2) I'm VERY glad to hear that this game works on 450 & 550 MHz processors.But is hard to belive that can you get the (designed) speed: 24 FPS.
Thanx tmoore
;)

p.s.
My systems for testing:
1) Celeron 1.3GHz, 256MB RAM,Radeon 7500.
2) P4/1.4Ghz, 256MB RAM,Geforce3Ti200
3) P4/2Ghz , 512MB RAM,GeForce4Ti4600

[necromanthus]

new features:
- Orc Great Hall (!)
- two manic peons (!)
- HELP button (and menu).
- more trees.
- auto-searching for new trees (!!!)
- PathFinding routines (!!!)
- a lot of design corrections.
- new sounds (!)
- INFO panel upgraded (now you can see ORC's achievements).
- faster Engine (!!!)
Peons are stealing your gold & wood.Can you stop them ? ha ha ha
http://necromanthus.com/Games/Flash/warcraft.html
For my (offline) testers and KoolMoves fans:
http://necromanthus.com/Test/warcraft.zip
(the Windows projector).
Please do not promote the last link !

I'm waiting for your opinions.
cheers

[The Action Scripter]

Looks good Necro. One thing: In your game, when you click on a peasent, he makes a peon's sound...Maybe change that, not that it really matters.

Make peasents able to attack. :)

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by The Action Scripter
Looks good Necro. One thing: In your game, when you click on a peasent, he makes a peon's sound...Maybe change that, not that it really matters.
Make peasents able to attack. :)

Ha ha ha ... that's right (you played Warcraft for sure !)
But this was my wish ... I like a lot that sound !

Wait a bit for footmans,archers & knights if you want some fights !
:mrpimp:

[The Action Scripter]

Gotcha...but will the peasants/pons be able to attack, like in the real game, but do pretty bad damage.

Also , maybe in a very future version, have a primitive map editor. ;)

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by The Action Scripter
Gotcha...but will the peasants/pons be able to attack, like in the real game, but do pretty bad damage.

Also , maybe in a very future version, have a primitive map editor. ;)

1) Be sure of that !
2) Map Editor ? Not so soon !
A future step (not this year) can be Johnie's idea: LOAD/SAVE
If this feature works fine (hundreds of variables must be saved & loaded),I'll think about Custom Maps.
:mrpimp:

[The Action Scripter]

Heh, yea...it is pretty hard...I have done it before, but I dunno about a load-save feature. Good luck Necro.

P.S: Add some cheat codes Like in Warcraft 2-3. :).

[johnie]

Its still running fine on the k6. I'm impressed.

Its still under 300K. Good work.

[OwenAus]

WooHoo.

Looking better all the time.

Is there some early pathfinding gone into this? :p

Also noticed that when the peons finish up a stand of trees they move onto the next one. :)

And I want to nail that orc that is stealing my gold!

This is looking good.

[necromanthus]

for Johnie ...
Glad to hear Johnie.
Tell me when is your birthday.Maybe I'll visit you and give you a P4/2Ghz as gift. ;)
cheers

for Owen ...
- multilevel PathFinding implemented (need some corrections anyhow).
- Auto-searching for new trees (this was for ORCs,because they're controlled by computer,but now it's available for humans too).
- the first battle probably this year !!!

news:
A strange bug was solved today: in some conditions,peons & peasants could walk thru buildings.Now they must find another way ...ha ha ha

:mrpimp:

[johnie]

I like messing with the insides of the computer to much so I keep the K6 around to tinker with.

I'm going to build a Mini ITX out of an old wooden chocolate box I have (10"X13"x3" Balsa Wood). I'm waiting for the EPIA M series http://www.viavpsd.com/product/epia_m_spec.jsp?motherboardId=81 to come out though... They should be out in December and are supose to be 17 CM X 17 CM although I think that may be a mistake as the other Mini ITX boards are 170 cm by 170 cm (6.5" X 6.5"). although if it is to expensive (more than $200) I will just use a EPIA 800.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by johnie
I like messing with the insides of the computer to much so I keep the K6 around to tinker with.


I see ... OK.
Here's my gift for you:
Spectrum Sinclair (modified):
Z80A/3.5MHz , 192KB RAM (128KB SRAM),16 colors,Floppy 800KB (unit & adapter),IDE interface & HDD SeaGate 40MB,WinBasic & TRDOS systems.
Also I have a lot of games for you.
If you like messing,this is the best way to do it !
:p

[The Action Scripter]

3.5 mhz...lol.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by The Action Scripter
3.5 mhz...lol.

Also I have a Spectrum version of Warcraft (maded 5 years ago by a russian designer).
On 3.5MHz processor,this game runs faster than never !
:p

[necromanthus]

what's new:
- another GoldMine (!)
- walls (!)
- construction time (you can't use a building until is finished) (!)
- upgrade to KEEP (you must increase the gold production).
- more trees.
- new sound (for Lumber MILL).
- improved PathFinding (!)
- improved enemy AI:
1) auto-searching for new GoldMines. (!)
2) "if nothing to chop,search for gold" (!)

I need testers & suggestions.
p.s.
Windows projector also updated.
:mrpimp:

[OwenAus]

I can't force my peons to use the second gold mine, they turn around and head for the first. (I like using "their" resources and protecting "mine" - those closer to home).

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by OwenAus
I can't force my peons to use the second gold mine, they turn around and head for the first. (I like using "their" resources and protecting "mine" - those closer to home).

That's right OWEN.
This is only for fair-play (you have 4 workers and they're only 2).
But this is not for too long ...
I'm working on something BIGGER.
Thanks.

[parsa33]

wow very nice, if you only made this like 3-4 years ago and sold it to blizzard you would have made alot of money.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by parsa33
wow very nice, if you only made this like 3-4 years ago and sold it to blizzard you would have made alot of money.

Thanx for support. ;)

[OwenAus]

hmm - With only two orcs, and four of my peons, they don't need a whole mine to themselves!

Greedy beggers. ;)

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by OwenAus
hmm - With only two orcs, and four of my peons, they don't need a whole mine to themselves!
Greedy beggers. ;)

You're too greedy OWEN ...ha ha ha.
Wait a bit for 4 peasants,2 footmans,4 peons,2 grunts and more ...
:mrpimp:

[necromanthus]

what's new:
- 4 peasants,2 footmans & 4 peons (!!!)
- health,damage & shield for each character (!)
- you can attack and destroy (!!!)
- buildings under fire (!)
- self-deffense system (for orcs & humans) (!)
- auto-tracking system for left icons (!)
- a lot of new sounds

bad news: the new SwapDepths controller works faster,but the main engine
has to deal with huge amount of data (over 70KB of ActionScript,over
150 variables,multi-loops,etc).
You'll need a powerfull system to sustain the designed game-speed (24 FPS).
I'll try to find a way to "skip" the Flash 6 poor AS interpreter.
If not ... I'm waiting for V7 !
cheers

[OwenAus]

Hacked up those greedy orcs and watched them fade away ....

MuhaHahAhAaaaaaaaaa! <-- evil laugh

lol. This is getting better and better. And the peons fought back!

[bridelh]

Great stuff,
I gave it to my 9 year old daughter - she had a great time!

Her comments:
"How do I do this? - how do I do that?" (I think she wants some help screens)

"I lost some of the people - they went into the mine and didn't come out again!" (very upset she was!)

"Can I make time go faster?"

I took a peek at some of your code :) You have done a lot of great work here Necro - well done!

I have a couple of suggestions - I think it would lend itself well to OO Actionscript, and may help you with the speed issue. You could make a person Class and then share methods with say peons, footmen and peasants Classes etc

Also, there are a lot of onClipEvent's which you could probably assign dynamically in an OO structure, or maybe try setInterval which can save you lots of CPU cycles....

This is not a critisism, I think you have done a wonderful job here.

Keep up the great work...

Hilary

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[necromanthus]

Thanks OWEN ,thanks HILARY

- I used shared Classes
- I used multi-conditioned functions (to save from CPU hard job).
I can't use "setInterval",because the engine needs perfect synchronization between "childs" (I have a lot of "hitTest with getBounds" and must be performed at the same time)

I think I need a miracle to speed up the game ...
cheers

[necromanthus]

what's new:

- Two vigilant GRUNTs (!!)
- expanded map: x16 (!)
- ORCs can kill & destroy everything (!)
- you can (re)train peasants & footmans (!!!)
- ORCs can (re)train peons only.
- you can rebuild destroyed buildings (!!!)
- you can show the right path to a "dizzy" peasant carring goodies (!)
- INFO panel upgraded: energy for each building.
- a lot of corrections
http://necromanthus.com/Games/Flash/warcraft.html
(warcraft.exe also updated)
...is getting harder...
:mrpimp:

[OwenAus]

Looking v good.

How far do you intend to go with it? Will it end up with ships, that bicycle-like flying machine, catapults, etc?

What would be neat is if when you selected someone (clicked a face in the panel), their dot on the big map changed colour.

Have a good new year.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by OwenAus
Looking v good.

How far do you intend to go with it? Will it end up with ships, that bicycle-like flying machine, catapults, etc?

What would be neat is if when you selected someone (clicked a face in the panel), their dot on the big map changed colour.

Have a good new year.

1) At this moment: peasants,footmans,archers and knights (maybe balistas).
(I wanna keep the SWF size under 2 MB).
2) Intresting idea.

A better year for you,Owen !

[luxregina]

Hello !

Is this game still devlopped ?

I am working on this -> http://www.twokingdoms.com which should be playable online in a week or two, and i would be interested to talk a bit about your project ...

Thanks,
LUX

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by luxregina
Hello !
Is this game still devlopped ?
I am working on this -> http://www.twokingdoms.com which should be playable online in a week or two, and i would be interested to talk a bit about your project ...
Thanks,
LUX


I saw your work (a couple of months ago).
Amazing graphics man ! Congratulations.
Also,your XML generated game maps are cool.

Warcraft and Diablo are "on hold" (at least for this year).
The reason: a common 3D project (Macromedia & Discreet are involved too).
Anyhow,FLASH (at this stage) is not the best environment for sophisticated games.
But who knows ? ...

Keep up the good work.
cheers

[luxregina]

Well, i hope your project will come to a good conclusion !

I've been really impressed by your work on that Flash-warcraft : it seems that we share quite the same source of inspiration ...

If one day you want to push farther the adventure of your warcraft engine, and if you look someone to collaborate with, i can count me in : i would be quite excited to work on a derivation of such a great game, and, for example, some of Two Kingdoms GFXs and tiles could do pretty well in a RTS ... with keeping in the same time that Warcraft II look and feel ...

LUX

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by luxregina

If one day you want to push farther the adventure of your warcraft engine, and if you look someone to collaborate with, i can count me in : i would be quite excited to work on a derivation of such a great game, and, for example, some of Two Kingdoms GFXs and tiles could do pretty well in a RTS ... with keeping in the same time that Warcraft II look and feel ...

LUX

I see ...
KoolMoves ---> the environment
Necromanthus ---> game engine
LuxRegina ---> game graphics
Blizzard ---> just looking ...
ha ha ha
You're on my "white on-hold list"
LOL

[luxregina]

Originally posted by necromanthus
(...)You're on my "white on-hold list"

heuuu ... not sure if it's anything positive though ?!? - never heard that expression before ... (though, i'm french, so english is not necessarly my strongest skill ;))

Anyway, cheers ! and i hope your engine won't go into oblivion : it is one of the most impressive i've seen in Flash so far.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by luxregina
heuuu ... not sure if it's anything positive though ?!? - never heard that expression before ... (though, i'm french, so english is not necessarly my strongest skill ;))

Anyway, cheers ! and i hope your engine won't go into oblivion : it is one of the most impressive i've seen in Flash so far.

Let's put it in other way: you're on my future "white list" (something like a future "Hall of Fame") ... LOL
And about the engine: I have the PERFECT PathFinding routines,but FLASH can't deal with this huge amount of data (processsor > 2GHz is required to sustain 24 FPS).
We'll see ... next year !
cheers

[luxregina]

Actually, we could talk about pathfinding : for enemy AI, Two Kingdoms uses an algorythm that is quite fast, that is not processor intensive, not based on a* (as speed is a big drawback ) but that works really well ... specially when a lot ( meaning 10-20 ) objects (sprites) use it...

Still working on releasing the final version next week or around, so you might hopefully see what i'm talking about soon !

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by luxregina
Actually, we could talk about pathfinding : for enemy AI, Two Kingdoms uses an algorythm that is quite fast, that is not processor intensive, not based on a* (as speed is a big drawback ) but that works really well ... specially when a lot ( meaning 10-20 ) objects (sprites) use it...

To be honest,I have all your scripts (LOL).
But I can't find any "enemies AI" there.
You have few predefined paths (I'm talking about those archers and wolfes) and some "pseudo-random" routines.
Warcraft is based on few "predefined targets" and a real-time PathFinding routine (a little bit buggy,I have to admit that).
But this is not the point.
The new engine is based on a heuristic algorithm (with logical trees),of course,ported on Flash (ActionScript).
I have a lot of improvements for WARCRAFT and DIABLO,but I have no time (maybe next year).

p.s.
I don't wanna upset BOB with these discussions (have nothing to do with KoolMoves),so email me or start a new topic HERE (http://forum.necromanthus.com) (FLASH Games).
cheers
;)

[luxregina]

Originally posted by necromanthus
To be honest,I have all your scripts (LOL).


Hummm....don't know if i can be happy about that ... decompiler ? ...
Actually, you might not have them all, or old ones : wolves, archers etc are derivations of an enemy overall class : no predefined at all : the enemy spots the position of the player (if in line of sight), then does the pathfinding to that position - to avoid having perfect pathfinding, i update the pathfinding according to the line of sight, and a timer which basicly sets the intelligence/reactivity of the enemy... so it is a "real" pathfinding, only that it is not constant ( but could be )

I must stressed that eventhough i commited a lot of the code on 2K, i've worked with an OOP coder lately that reprogrammed a lot of the engine lately ...

PS -> To the mod : sorry for hijacking the thread : i subscribed to Necro forums, just waiting for the confirmation ...

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by luxregina
i subscribed to Necro forums, just waiting for the confirmation ...

There's no need to wait for that.
Just read your email and activate your account by clicking on that link.
;)

[Jeffshaw71]

Originally posted by necromanthus
What new feature do you need more ?
What do you dislike ?
Some bug ?
...

i am new here but played this game last night and it's a very slow moving game, is there anyway to speed it up? also, add archers :) my footman will were killed by the grunts :( with a couple archer to back them up, they woulda won.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by Jeffshaw71
i am new here but played this game last night and it's a very slow moving game, is there anyway to speed it up? also, add archers :) my footman will were killed by the grunts :( with a couple archer to back them up, they woulda won.

I'll try to speed up the game,but is VERY difficult (Flash ActionScript is not the best environment for sophisticated engines).
archers and knights are on my "to do" list (next year).
cheers
;)

[Jeffshaw71]

Originally posted by necromanthus
I'll try to speed up the game,but is VERY difficult (Flash ActionScript is not the best environment for sophisticated engines).
archers and knights are on my "to do" list (next year).
cheers
;)

glad to hear it :)

[misterjueves]

Kudos! This is my favorite Warcraft version, so anything I can contribute (actionscript arena, not graphics I'm afraid) I'm game... Anyway, I'm playing without speakers, so I don't know if you have sound or not (I think I saw a note about "choppy sound") but when I went up to attack the orcish base with my little footsoldier, I noticed the orcs didn't falter a bit when they're hut caught on fire. I tried to rile up some support from the orcish rank by yelling, "We're being attacked!" in my best grunt voice, but to no avail. Please implement support for pitiful classic game lovers and their silly voices. ;)

[misterjueves]

Also, hi. You could say I'm the epitome of the concept "forum lurker." Joined Aug 1 2003. First post Feb 20 2004. Really enjoy listening to your banter. Wouldn't be able to do the measly things I do in Flash weren't for you guys (and gals) helping me without knowing it.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by misterjueves
Kudos! This is my favorite Warcraft version, so anything I can contribute (actionscript arena, not graphics I'm afraid) I'm game... Anyway, I'm playing without speakers, so I don't know if you have sound or not (I think I saw a note about "choppy sound") but when I went up to attack the orcish base with my little footsoldier, I noticed the orcs didn't falter a bit when they're hut caught on fire. I tried to rile up some support from the orcish rank by yelling, "We're being attacked!" in my best grunt voice, but to no avail. Please implement support for pitiful classic game lovers and their silly voices. ;)

Hello there.
What can I say ... to be honest,I don't know the future of this flash game.
Flash environment is not suitable for this kind of projects.
The swapDepths engine is a game killer (there's nothing I can do about that).
About sounds ... I don't know who said something about "choppy sound" because there're no choppy sounds at all.
The main problem is that to get a decent FrameRate (>24 FPS),you need a top system (processor > 1.6GHz and at least 256MB RAM).
Now about "I noticed the orcs didn't falter a bit when they're hut caught on fire" ... of course: they're too dummies to do something else.
On my "to do" list are archers and knights,but to do that I have to rebuild the entire engine.
I can't predict any date for that,because the current project is out of Flash: NecroShock (http://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave/NecroShock.html)
Anyway,I'll keep you in touch.
:mrpimp:

[kreazy]

This is hella good, how do you do this?
There needs to be more wood.

[necromanthus]

Originally posted by kreazy
This is hella good, how do you do this?
There needs to be more wood.

I agree.
But to add archers,knights and more trees, I need more computing power !
And Flash is not able to give me that ...
;)

[necromanthus]

WARCRAFT updated:
- faster engine
- the first archer (!)
- a lot of corrections

This game is not "on hold" anymore.
:mrpimp:

[warcraft_player]

Finally,the first public preview !
It's just the beginning,so don't ask too much.
http://necromanthus.com/Games/Flash/warcraft.html
warning: "multitasking" engine !!! (not tested on entry-level machines).
Sound ON !
I need all my friends opinions & sugestions.
(I'm searching for possible bugs)
p.s.
both versions (KoolMoves & Flash MX) are developed at the same time.
cheers
:mrpimp:
I would appreciate it if you please add more trees for the goblins i never get enough for finishing the first mission :)

[necromanthus]

I would appreciate it if you please add more trees for the goblins i never get enough for finishing the first mission :)
Check out this TOPIC (http://forum.necromanthus.com/necroforum.php?forum=4&topic=1)
This project is dead for a long time ago.
As I said many times before, flash environment (because of its poor global performances) is not suitable for sophisticated projects.
To continue this project I need a (much more) faster environment.
Flash v8.5 is far away from my expectations, so you have to wait for v9, v10, or ... who knows.
Meanwhile, this is the "real" Warcraft in your browser:
http://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave/warcraft.html
new features are coming soon ...

[warcraft_player]

[QUOTE=necromanthus]Finally,the first public preview !
It's just the beginning,so don't ask too much.
http://necromanthus.com/Games/Flash/warcraft.html
warning: "multitasking" engine !!! (not tested on entry-level machines).
Sound ON !
I need all my friends opinions & sugestions.
(I'm searching for possible bugs)
p.s.
both versions (KoolMoves & Flash MX) are developed at the same time.
cheers
:mrpimp:[/QUO shouldn't you add anymore levels?

[warcraft_player]

Necromanthus, you should add more levels

[docree]

That was posted at: 11-13-2002, 06:27 PM
More than 3 years ago...

It was a project to see if he could do it.
An experimental level, if you will.
I figure if Necro says he can't do it and has not added anything in two years,
then maybe, just maybe, it will NOT be updated anytime soon.

I have played more incomplete homebrew games than complete market games.
When ya play with an experiment don't expect much.

[mook25]

It's looking good. i just wish i had the patience (and the knowledge) to be able to do something like this. obviously i can see there is a lot more work that needs doing but it's looking like it could be an excellent peice of work, keep up the good work. :thumbsup:

[gusmus]

OMG,,, posts from 2002 now... hey Necro,, bet you never saw that happening lol.

[necromanthus]

Necromanthus, you should add more levels
I have to think about that.
In fact, I have to rebuild the entire game because the engine core is flash v5 :yikes:

to docree: good point of view !

to mook25: The Flash version of Warcraft can't be compared with the ShockWave version.
The second one is much more complicated (and it's full 3D !).

to gusmus: Warcraft is the best RTS ever made.
A masterpiece by Blizzard Entertainment