Please settle this silly debate... (again)

**smarsh** · 01-30-2002, 06:05 PM

Apparantly this is VERY contoversial!!! - my original post was deleted before I found an answer. Please excuse me for asking again...

I say the .swf extension stands for "shockwave flash". My friend says it stands for "small web file". Please settle this little issue.

Thank you all again.

**david petley** · 01-30-2002, 06:13 PM

smarsh,
no moderator would delete such a post if that is all that it said.
It stands for ShockWave Flash
david p.

**vampstko** · 01-30-2002, 06:20 PM

SingleWhiteFemale

**johnie** · 01-30-2002, 06:26 PM

I don't think the original thread got deleted but rather just burried durring the Reply to Post bug that plagued FK a little while ago.

Anyhow, When Macromedia bought Future Splash and renamed it Flash they made the file format (then it was SPL) a Director plug-in. As all of the other Director Plug-Ins were dying of SWF continued to gain popularity. Now the two formats are more or less seperate.

**Chelle2008** · 01-30-2002, 06:27 PM

interesting... i took a class for dreamweaver at my university recently and the instructor said it used to stand for shockwave flash... but due to some sort of controversy it now stands for small web file.

hmmm...

from wildform.com:

SWF

SWF is the file format for Macromedia Flash files. Originally developed by a company called FutureSplash, SWF (small web file) and Flash was purchased by Macromedia. Currently, Macromedia is on version 5 of this format.

http://www.wildform.com/flix/FlixHel...=%5C%5C%5C2#19

**Mac8myPC** · 01-30-2002, 06:29 PM

WELL! i for one am greatly offended!

everyone knows it's Small Wweb Files!!

**david petley** · 01-30-2002, 06:35 PM

ah, so it is a controversy still.
I wasn't aware of the history behind the naming at all and it looks to me now like Small Web File might be in the lead.

and mac....why would it offend you that someone is ignorant of a file format meaning, LOL.
david p.

**tublu** · 01-30-2002, 06:46 PM

I think SWF is = Simply Wonderful Files

**johnie** · 01-30-2002, 07:27 PM

No, Wildform is wrong which does not surprise me as they have also stated that only Live Motion and Flash can utilize the Load Movie Action and if I'm not mistaken both KM 1.0, Flare 1.0, and SWiSH 1.0 all shipped with this action.

Here is some proof: http://web.archive.org/web/199704121...oftware/flash/

and more proof- the original 1998 Document that put the SWF format into an Open Standard:

http://web.archive.org/web/199812020...ash/open/spec/

http://web.archive.org/web/199902251...whitepaper.rtf

and

If you want further Proof read the Liscense for developers of SWF tools- They Force them to Identify the SWF Format as Shockwave Flash. The current Liscense is here:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/f...pen/licensing/
and specifically here:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/f.../license2.html

With the V 5 version they have reduced the requirements to just calling it Macromedia Flash (SWF)

***gerbick*** · 01-30-2002, 08:12 PM

johnie, just one question for ya' man... how many computer chips do you have in that brain?

**EchoHype** · 01-30-2002, 09:12 PM

ShochWaveFlash

I believe so?

But, o well.

=)

**RazoRmedia** · 01-30-2002, 10:03 PM

sexual witless females

**alexhodge** · 01-31-2002, 12:24 AM

I'm pretty sure it's Shockwave Flash

**Pope de Flash** · 01-31-2002, 12:32 AM

In the begining it was

Small Web Format

**Dzine** · 01-31-2002, 12:48 AM

dayum thats a large SWF you have there pope...

<flips through the "Flash Footer Guidlines">

hmm

D

**david petley** · 01-31-2002, 01:34 AM

Originally posted by Dzine
dayum thats a large SWF you have there pope...

<flips through the "Flash Footer Guidlines">

hmm

D

I expect that Bill is in the process of changing his footer to comply with the guidelines, I did email him recently to discuss his footer size and he assured me it would be changed soon.
david p.

**Dzine** · 01-31-2002, 02:48 AM

Originally posted by david petley

Originally posted by Dzine
dayum thats a large SWF you have there pope...

<flips through the "Flash Footer Guidlines">

hmm

D

I expect that Bill is in the process of changing his footer to comply with the guidelines, I did email him recently to discuss his footer size and he assured me it would be changed soon.
david p.

****in a good on ya.

D

**Chelle2008** · 01-31-2002, 11:51 AM

Originally posted by gerbick

gerbick, that megatron thing is too funny

**Philicom** · 02-01-2002, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by smarsh
Apparantly this is VERY contoversial!!! - my original post was deleted before I found an answer. Please excuse me for asking again...

I say the .swf extension stands for "shockwave flash". My friend says it stands for "small web file". Please settle this little issue.

Thank you all again.

OFFICIAL

Dear Sir,

Your customer service no.: *******(Please quote in all future
correspondence).

SWF stands for 'Shockwave Flash', and refers to the file format for
Macromedia Flash and Macromedia Shockwave.

No fees are required for access to the Macromedia Flash file format (SWF) or
for the creation of products based on the SWF format. SWF files can be
created with many leading software packages, including Macromedia's Flash,
FreeHand, Fireworks, and Generator, as well as third-party tools.

If you have any further queries, please do not hesitate to contact us again.

Kind regards,

Martyn Greenan
Macromedia Customer Service
Tel.: +44 (0) 131 458 6766
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**swampy** · 02-01-2002, 08:52 AM

I can't beleive someone took the time to write to them.

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