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    Ok..

    Ok. I'll make some time this week to write the data structure and objects that sit under your filing-system GUI. I suppose you could call it a database - if you squint at it in the dark. More an array of records really. (that was almost pascal).

    It will reside on each user's computer as a shared object. No reason for everybody's filing system to exist on the server. It will only slow it all down.

    Ok, I like the idea about a chat program. Anyone got a Flash chat program that can be adapted to be a ginw application?

    As for people adding new ginw applications to the pool - we'll start off doing that manually - and automate things later. I'll make sure I make hooks in the thing I'm writing to be able to do this.

    At some point also I think users could be able to see other users on their network volume. So they can share files etc. Again, it's on the do-later list.

    I suppose you're right in considering all the possibilities up-front, especially as you're doing a rewrite now. Be careful about over complicating the task though - or we'll need some of Lightwave Network's Advil!

    Hey LN! - what can you bring to the party?


    One thing that occured to me, is that something like this might be handy for set-top boxes with limited computing capability. Anyone got one of those - we don't see many in Australia - haven't caught on yet. Eating lizards in the outback - now that's popular!

    I haven't finished yet, but I though I may as well connect it:

    www.i2genius.com

    PS: Any html or .swf designers in Brisbane - contact me.
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    Macromedia Flash Communication Server MX

    I have just installed (trial version) of Macromedia Flash Communication Server MX, so I'll see what it can do for Chat,external databases,etc.

    I'll get back soon if this works or not..

    Remember any comments , sugestions, would be of great help.
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    ok.... now this just might be me but if you're going to post downloads couldn't people create a folder for forum stuff and leave uploads in there forever because i've tried to view this and guess what 'error 404' . This is a major bugbear of mine, and i'm sorry you have to get the brunt of it but it's incredibly annoying when your browsing posts and the relatedfiles just aren't there anymore. .

    If you're gonna refer to files why don't you attach them to the post so people down the line can follow what's going on.
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    Apologies Buggedcom,

    I've set up a subdomain on i2genius where this stuff can live - so it must be in transit at the moment - we'll keep you all posted.

    This an interesting collaborative project - It's pulled me in - so anyone else out there want to join the party?

    coulda-been-me asked a question a while back about putting shared objects onto the server, so everyone can share them. This is so in the ginw filing system, people can click on a network volume, and share files and stuff with anyone else.

    Well shared objects reside on the computer -you have to express the data they hold a little differently to upload them. Actually, my i2genius.com applications do this sort of thing. I just haven't demonstrated it yet. They allow the user to save to disk, or they can publish stuff online. They latter they achieve by sending data up to a perl script that creates text files. ginw could work the same way, and maintain directory files too - again, no database required.
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    Sorry about having no file at the moment.

    i have uploaded a .swf ,but it does nothing yet except log-in.

    brutfood you do know how to make a "database"(saving to a text file using perl script.)

    So by saving varibles to a text file:

    we can make a real-time chat.

    have a database/archive of the uploaded .swf's .

    many more uses.

    The "database" or what-ever...:

    When the file is uploaded by what-ever means. The .swf's "appid", "appname", etc is sent to a text file.

    Which then ginw loads these varibles from the text file.(thats how Ginw will know what to load.)

    Then Ginw will use these varibles to load the .swf , "appid", etc.

    Because if there was no external "database" everytime someone uploads a .swf I would have to re-make Ginw to use the new uploaded .swf.

    But this way Ginw "updates" from the text file, itself with-out me to having to anything.

    Do you understand at what Im tring to get at?

    eg: just take this forum, it uses a php file which contains a database of what has been posted, which it then creates a html file every-time a user reads this page.

    I am wanting Ginw to the same, the app-writer enters in some deatails about the uploaded .swf...."appid" "file types" etc.

    Then ever-time a user open's the "Shared folder" Ginw loads the text file and creates the icons for the user.

    This can also be used for the Chat app.

    The users name and message is sent to a text file which then gets loaded by everone's Ginw.swf .

    http://ginw.i2genius.com/ginw.swf
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    Also...

    Its a good idea to clear your "Temporary Internet Files" so that when a update of Ginw is uploaded, you get the update and not the older version which was viewed earlier.

    It happens to me...when testing...

    Keep your sugestions comming...


    NOTE: I have changed the look of Ginw to the Old style "mac os"
    because "Mac OS X" look had shadows and other stuff which slowed down the swf in a web-browser and since this is a web app manager....

    This way heavier action-script can be used without bogging down the swf.

    Sorry for all those people who did not see the Mac OS X look.

    Visit: http://www.apple.com/macosx/theater/
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    A quantum leap!!! - ...

    ... Backwards!

    Ok, you've seen the amazing GINW OS, an operating system created in Flash - now witness i2g CLI! - A Command Line Interface. Watch this space, because I may do some lights and switches that you can program in binary next!

    ginw.i2genius.com/core.html

    Actually this all has a purpose. Core is a filing system that will sit under the ginw user interface. It also deals with launching processes, focussing windows etc. Have a play! - but beware the language is a bit obscure - and currently undocumented. Check out a new possible style of window too, that i've used for the CLI application.

    I'm quite close to coming up with some API standards for people to write other applications. So anyone got any games?, fun-stuff, serious apps?, networking?...
    AIR, ActionScript 3, Flex and Flash expert and freelance developer

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    Back by popular demarnd

    I have been asked to upload the first GINW OS (simulation)

    Its what started this whole thing....

    http://ginw.i2genius.com/ginw0.swf

    It has not been finished.

    Features:

    Click on the Ginw-Dock Icon for a menu.

    Click on the desktop and drag to "draw" a icon selection box.

    The windows "dock" and unDock".

    Your settings save.

    Desktop colour and pattern are changable.

    Clock for the Dock and Desktop. (both can be used at same time.)

    NOTE: I'll fix the HD icon later...
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    Another quantum leap - forwards this time....

    I take it that my command line interpreter wasn't too popular?

    Ok, I've been busy on this, a good distraction activity to take me away from things that make me money.

    I've created what I call 'core o/s'. I was pleased with what I did so I put it on my home page:-

    http://www.i2genius.com

    It now has the fundermentals of a graphical operating system. It's not perfect yet - one thing that irritates me is that directory windows take so long to refresh. This is because every icon is loadMovie()'d in to allow for flexability and custom icons for applications etc. I assumed that once one had loaded, it would be cached and subsequent ones would load instantly - but I assumed wrong. I'll fix that soon.

    The one thing that I like most about it is that it has spring loaded folders! which used to be a feature of older macOS versions.

    Of course, what we need is applications. Anyone? Even BeOS had rotating cubes and bad music going on simultaneously.

    I will give away a window template soon - just got a couple more things to do with it - cater for custom cursors etc, folders dragged to apps etc. I'll also write a guide to all the O/S calls you may need.

    By the way, I included the CLI for those that liked it.
    AIR, ActionScript 3, Flex and Flash expert and freelance developer

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    I'm really impressed with all of this the only concern i would have is a sone as a window is opened in the os my cpu usage hits the roof and my enire machine slows down. I think this might be to do with the shadow rendering. Admitedly i am on an G4 350 so it is fairly old but it does have over 600MB of RAM.

    Also i am working on a photogallery component... slowly but surely... that could possible be used for a file viewer. Although it can only read jpg and swf's at the moment although i am thinking about the incorporation of reading text files as documents and html pages.

    http://photogallery.buggedcom.co.uk
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    A photo gallery sounds good. I'll send you a window template and O/S call documentation when I'm sure that the interfaces between things won't change any more. Which O/S did you have cpu issues with, the original ginw, or my core?

    I've fixed the issue with downloading window icons now.
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    i had cpu probs with this

    http://ginw.i2genius.com/ginw0.swf

    as soon as you open an window within ginw

    I had no probs however with anything on

    http://www.i2genius.com
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    LOL - I always keep a bottle of Advil right next to the coffee maker...

    Yeah, I'd love to get in on this, but my time is nil at the moment. I'm kind of slammed with work until xmas--after that I should have some free time.

    Make sure to get the layout of this puppy down--also make sure to organize code well (and comment the hell out of it!) because if this is going to be an open source project, everyone kneeds to know whats what and why and how and hoop-dee-doo...

    Okay, back to the Advil & coffee...


    ... gimme just one more line of code to ease the pain.

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    Er...

    Heh, guess what I found...

    it's for PC users only, but it's pretty sweet--kinda like PC Anywhere made with Flash and Flash Studio Pro:

    http://www.multidmedia.com/software/...psybermind.zip

    anyhow, kinda like ginw

    Just downloaded the new version of Flash Studio Pro--you can send/recv packets with it via TCP/IP!!


    ... gimme just one more line of code to ease the pain.

    http://www.ln.tv
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    I hope you all enjoyed your christmas and new year festivities. There are still a few things I need to do to my operating system. You can see my work in progress at:-

    http://www.i2genius.com/coreos/core.html

    Any comments and suggestions please.

    LN, or anyone else, - Do you know how to write an Email program, to pick up and send POP Emails? (like outlook express)?

    I should be able to release template code for the application window before the end of the month
    AIR, ActionScript 3, Flex and Flash expert and freelance developer

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    This thread has gone a bit quiet. I'm still interested if anyone wants to port any of their flash applications to my operating system. I've added some new things since my previous post:-

    http://www.i2genius.com/coreos/core.html

    I really would like some feedback? Responsiveness over the Internet. Intelligability of the Applications? Cool factor etc.

    I want to make the next version full screen, so I want things to position themselves depending on the resolution of the users screen. Anyone got a good way of doing this?

    I also want to be able to preview WEB sites created using site (in the multimedia folder - still in development). I want to do this by loading a blank WEB page, and then using javascript to fill its body wit the HTML generated in flash. Can anyone help me with the Javascript bit? ie. knowing when the window has loaded, and transfering the HTML into it?

    The next version will also have a search engine, more help, and some WEB space to upload your own WEB site. I'm also working on the e-commerce engine that e-shops made in site will utilise.

    I was going to attach window code for anyone who wants to write an application - but just realised this attach file thing only allows for 1 file. you will need 3 - the window.fla, and two shared libraries that it uses. If you want it, I can Email it to you.
    AIR, ActionScript 3, Flex and Flash expert and freelance developer

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    Doh! - I zipped it into one file. Here's the window code - but if you want a menu and palettes too, let me know.

    Is there still any interest here in this? You've all been awfully quiet? Does anyone know how to write mail programs?

    Here's that address again:

    http://www.i2genius.com/coreos/core.html
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