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    Really need your help?

    hew guys its 10:24 GMT and i need this problem resolved by the morning.

    i designed a leaflet in photoshop.

    hi - res graphics, as i knew it was going to the printers.

    but when i printed it on my modest hp deskjet the text looks awful even with antaliasing.

    what shall i do. cant i get the text to look like vector?
    is photoshop not designed for print work?

    anyway,

    ive got about 3 hours to get this solved before it gets printed in the morning.

    please help, any ideas just speak.

    and mods please leave this here, at least untill the morning when ive got my answer as all the other forums are way too slow to get an answer quick enought.

    thanks in advanced
    freshly squeezed media

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    Re: Really need your help?

    Originally posted by n-gen
    [B]hew guys its 10:24 GMT and i need this problem resolved by the morning.

    i designed a leaflet in photoshop.

    hi - res graphics, as i knew it was going to the printers.

    but when i printed it on my modest hp deskjet the text looks awful even with antaliasing.

    what shall i do. cant i get the text to look like vector?
    is photoshop not designed for print work?
    no, its designed for photo editing print work... you're best off using photoshop for the bitmaps, and a program like illustrator, freehand, quark or even corel draw for the text...

    if its not a possibility, then you could try converting your texts to shapes via the layer menu....
    text in photoshop just sucks no matter how hard you try, you'll never get the crisp results you are looking for...

    sorry to be the bearer of bad news..

    oh, adobe acrobat can be a pretty clean tool as well...
    good luck!

    if you made it 300 dpi, it shouldn't look too crumby though..?
    maybe a link/attatchment as an example?

    p.s.
    maybe the D&G forum is the place to post this?
    you are more likely to get a more knowledgeable/in-depth response there....
    Last edited by jasonpratt; 05-16-2003 at 05:54 PM.

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    thanks for the relpy, keep them coming

    yeah ive got corel ill try that
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    just keep in mind embedding fonts and using font outlines within corel draw, and make sure it's an acceptable format for whomever is making the film (assuming you mean traditional 4 color process...)
    (if you are going somewhere to have the file to be printed, it can never hurt to bring a copy of ALL the fonts and source images used in the file... it can save MAJOR headaches)

    use tifs, psd or eps files for the images...

    no matter what program you use, it's better safe than sorry...
    also, exporting/ saving in different formats as a fail-safe can't hurt...

    I know when i go to the film guys, i always supply as much as i can...
    that way i know i wont have uneccessary delays...

    BUT...
    I am really no print media expert...

    I've just learned a few things the hard way...

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    Good advice Jason

    Also, check the resolution you are working on in Photoshop. Make sure you image is the correct dimension and work on about 300dpi (dots per inch).

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    i very rarely use photoshop for text unless its (v funky) eg bevels and overlaps

    i recommend illustrator (imported in quark) or create the text in quark, are u using a quark doc or just supplying a php file to the printers?

    bp

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    Photoshop work fine for text:

    1) Make sure antialias is on otherwise you'll have horridly jaggy text.

    2) For print 200-300 ppi. Start with an empty canvas that is the correct physcial size, and 200-300 ppi (dpi).

    3) If it's a cheapy printer you won't get quality. (from someone who had a ceapy printer once )

    4) What format are you saving in? Don't use jpg for print, and certainly do not overly compress. Use PSD, TIFF, EPS, even PDF for print.

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    i never do any print work less than 300dpi if i can i always go higher, i know digital machines will happly run at 200dpi and sometimes less (for small images) but if its not digital then u have a big problem

    i always either do .tiff or .eps (clipping paths) jpegs are ok if they are v big and saved as max size (12 setting)

    bp

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    Most print houses will also happily accept a 600 dpi tiff, which may slow down your work via processor load, but anything for that extra dose of crispness. More than likely your printer has already given you the specs that they prefer, and if not see if they have a digital requirements page on their site. Did someone already mention making sure you zip up the fonts and send them along as well?

    Whenever I do print work I do a little Toyota Leap if they approve the file the first time around, every printer has his own specs and some are pretty loopy.
    G/L

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    hey, not sure what version of ps you are using but im pretty sure that 7 actually uses vector graphics for type...so its ok for limited type, headlines etc....but for a lot of type you should use quark or illustrator...i know this has already been said

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    Astroflux, could you please resize your footer to fit in with the guidelines below.

    Thanks in advance,
    bp

    footer specs
    300x40 pixels max!
    15k max!

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    oops, sorry.

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    thx

    bp

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