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    Juvenile Delinquent CVO Chris's Avatar
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    Originally posted by Visionray
    Well, have you ever cracked open a history book?
    Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Charles Taylor, Franciso Franco, Marcos, Mobutu Sese Seko, Pinochet, General Suharto, Geraldo Rivera and Dr. Evil are a few that come to mind.
    Don't forget Daniel O'Donell, Santa, Bill Gates and the Easter Bunny.

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    Originally posted by Subway
    Yeah, that would interest me, too. Adolf is still the biggest of them evils, but is there a person between that did something more evil?

    Fredi
    joseph stalin was probably the most evil in terms of innocent lives extinguished.

    At the time though the Nazis got more bad press as they were the worlds "common" enemy.
    "They're very much like scruffy pigs to look at, and they've got big, knobbly warts and lumps all over their long, hairy faces. They are very, very ugly indeed..."

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    Originally posted by Visionray
    Dr. Evil
    scratch my last remark about Stalin, Dr Evil is most definitely the most evil.
    "They're very much like scruffy pigs to look at, and they've got big, knobbly warts and lumps all over their long, hairy faces. They are very, very ugly indeed..."

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    Originally posted by swampy
    scratch my last remark about Stalin, Dr Evil is most definitely the most evil.
    What about Geraldo Rivera?
    He's definitely up there on the list.

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    Originally posted by Visionray
    What about Geraldo Rivera?
    He's definitely up there on the list.
    pffft, he doesn't even have a mini-me.

    (unless you count Magnum PI)
    "They're very much like scruffy pigs to look at, and they've got big, knobbly warts and lumps all over their long, hairy faces. They are very, very ugly indeed..."

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    Lots of valid points there, but then of course when they say
    The implications of this analysis are disturbing, but to ignore them (or the evidence itself) would be an attempt at denial which would constitute a surrender to evil.
    they remind me of someone to whom they probably wouldn't want to be compared with...

    One thing I've never found an explanation for in these pages is how they would keep everybody involved in this quiet. I can imagine they have some corrupt officials that would have a mind twisted enough to do this kind of operation to an airplane full of civilians - but to organise this whole thing I think too many of them would need a serious cause in order to get involved in this kind of killing. I don't think what the US governement has to offer would be sufficient to convince all the people who would have to take part.

    Maybe I just missed the theory that explans this part though...

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    Originally posted by SubwayDesigns
    One thing I've never found an explanation for in these pages is how they would keep everybody involved in this quiet.
    Duct tape?

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    how could Bush think of something as sophisticated as that... and not be able to "nuclear". Just not plausible.

    on a side note (since I couldn't tell if that was serious) - I didn't mean keep them quiet on the airplane, but keep the people on the ground involved in the operation quiet

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    Originally posted by Visionray
    Well, have you ever cracked open a history book?
    Stalin, Pol Pot, Saddam Hussein, Charles Taylor, Franciso Franco, Marcos, Mobutu Sese Seko, Pinochet, General Suharto, Geraldo Rivera and Dr. Evil are a few that come to mind.
    Quite right. Especially the last one.
    scdfred

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    the real conspiracy!

    well you see theories like this are all part of the bigger plot! ... they put enough things into the overall idea to convince people that actually it's all just conspiracy nonsense and easily disprovable .... but actually the truth is in there! see what i mean ... they wrote it all themselves .... check the pentagon photos ... can you see a plane? ... i always believed that they planned it themselves .... check out www.newamericancntury.org now thats reallly scary!
    NO DOCTOR I WONT TAKE ANYMORE OF THE PILLS!

    but seriously, these things can be too easily dismissed ......
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    Re: the real conspiracy!


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    Originally posted by swampy
    joseph stalin was probably the most evil in terms of innocent lives extinguished.
    i think mao led stalin by about 20 million.
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    Re: Re: the real conspiracy!

    Originally posted by CVO Chris
    Did you mean http://www.newamericancentury.org ?
    yeah i did

    PS .... dont forget that the CIA trained Osama bin Laden
    Last edited by suehami; 07-02-2003 at 05:08 PM.
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    the real point

    someone askd for bullet points earlier ......

    Several thousand civilians died in the collapse of the WTC towers, and hundreds of military personnel were killed in the attack on the Pentagon though the numbers are small compared to

    the hundreds of thousands of civilians incinerated in the U.S. fire bombings of Hamburg, Dresden and Tokyo, and in the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki;
    the two to five million post-World-War-II refugees from the Soviet Union who were forcibly returned to Stalin, to face either immediate execution or a slow death in the Gulag, on the orders of Roosevelt and Eisenhower in Operation Keelhaul;
    the millions of civilians who died from hunger and disease as a result of U.S.-instigated mass starvation of Germans during 1945-1950 under the Morgenthau Plan;
    the millions of Native Americans killed by soldiers and occupiers of their land in the 19th Century or allowed to starve to death by the U.S. government in the 20th (a clear case of genocide);
    the thousands of Iranians tortured and murdered by SAVAK, the secret police of the regime installed in 1953 as a result of a CIA-led coup which overthrew the popular Iranian Premier, Mossadegh);
    the murder of between 20,000 and 40,000 Vietnamese from 1968 to 1971 by the CIA in their political assassination program Operation Phoenix;
    the million or so Vietnamese, Laotians and Cambodians killed by the American military in the 1960s and 70s whilst defending their countries from American domination (or simply because they happened to be where the Americans carried out their carpet bombings);
    the tens of thousands of civilians who were tortured and murdered by CIA-installed dictatorships in Central and South America;
    the 200,000 people (all civilians) killed (using U.S.-supplied equipment) as a result of Indonesia's invasion of East Timor in 1975 for which prior approval was given by the then U.S. President and U.S. Secretary of State (Ford and Kissinger);
    the six million Brazilian Indians who have died as a result of the policies of multinational corporations;
    the 10,000 to 20,000 people, mostly civilians, killed in the U.S.-supported 1982 invasion of Lebanon by Israel;
    the 300,000 Iranians killed in the Iran/Iraq war, which was started by Iraq at the instigation of the U.S. (which supplied Iraq with the weapons it used);
    the 180,000 civilians killed by Reagan's CIA-cocaine-funded Contras in Nicaragua and El Salvador in the 1980s;
    the 6,000 (perhaps as many as 20,000) Iraqi civilians killed during the 41 days and nights of bombing by the British and the Americans in 1991 (during which time the civilian infrastructure was targeted, a war crime), including:
    the 500 civilians (including whole families) burnt alive and turned into cinders when American missiles penetrated a shelter in Baghdad;
    the tens of thousands of Iraqi conscripts slaughtered on the "Highway of Death" by U.S. Navy pilots during their attempted retreat from Kuwait in 1991 (another war crime because the soldiers killed were not in a combat situation);
    the tens of thousands of Kurdish civilians killed in South-East Turkey during the 1990s by Turkish government soldiers using weapons and equipment supplied to them by the U.S. (which knew exactly what they were doing with them);
    the tens of thousands of civilians in Sudan who have died due to the absence of medicines resulting from the destruction of the Sudanese pharmaceutical plant by American cruise missiles in 1998 and from the economic sanctions imposed on Sudan;
    the one to two million Iraqi civilians, two-thirds of them children, who have died in the last ten years as a result of the effects of the hundreds of tons of cancer-causing depleted uranium left over from the million or so exploded rounds of DU ammunition used in attacks by American warplanes in the 1991 American/British 6-week terrorist campaign against Iraq and from the subsequent U.S./British-imposed economic blockade and criminally punitive sanctions (not to mention those killed by the bombing raids which occur every week);
    and the tens of millions of civilians who die every year in Third World countries from starvation, disease and despair because their countries are mired in poverty and corruption as a result of economic exploitation by American multinationals acting with the support and approval of the American government.
    To those in the higher echelons of a government of a terrorist state which, by means of its military and its CIA, has killed tens of millions of civilians in foreign countries, the killing of a few thousand of their fellow citizens is simply another exercise in mass murder, needing a little more planning, but not much different to what they and their predecessors have done before.


    When asked about the number of Iraqis who died in the war [the 1991 Gulf Slaughter], US General Colin Powell [current US Secretary of State] replied: "It's really not a number I'm terribly interested in."
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    Re: the real point

    Originally posted by suehami

    When asked about the number of Iraqis who died in the war [the 1991 Gulf Slaughter], US General Colin Powell [current US Secretary of State] replied: "It's really not a number I'm terribly interested in."
    have a reliable source on that quote, in its context as well?
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    Originally posted by CVO Chris
    Just remember seeing on the news last night how President Bush wants americans to have immunity from the ICC (International Criminal Court). So now we have a law for the whole world except for Americans (they're above it). They've punished countries who wouldn't grant them immunity from the ICC (They took $5 million of aid from Columbia for example).

    Why?

    What happened to his pre-election promise to improve America's relations with the rest of the world? They had the whole democratic world behind them on Sept 11 and threw that sympathy away. Not the fault of the american people ofcourse, but their "elected"(?) government.
    I dont agree with the US trying to be exempt from the ICC but to give the US a bad wrap because they took aid away from Columbia is unfair. The US provided that aid, and it is ENTIRELY its discression to keep that instated or remove it.

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    not sure about a reliable source but have seen it quoted many other times ....

    google search results
    sorry this link doesnt work! anyway try a search for the quote ... i'm sure it will give it in context and reliably reported

    also the second half of this 'article' is far more interesting/illuminating .... my advice.... skip the early conspiracy theory stuff and read the last half .... far more scary.
    Last edited by suehami; 07-02-2003 at 05:57 PM.
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    Re: Re: the real point

    Originally posted by TallGuyLittleCar
    have a reliable source on that quote, in its context as well?
    Are you kidding? You actually expect someone to drum up a quote in context? No way man, we all know media soundbytes, talking points, and out-of-context quotes sound so much cooler.

    Nah, this quote proves Colin Powel is racist towards Iraqi's (hence the reason why the US invaded Iraq twice). He just want's them all dead so he and his buddies can pluder the country for oil without opposition.

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    I wish the United States had never come to be. All we have done is do ignominious harm to the rest of the world. We have not given anyone a better reason to live, we have not created and propelled a global economy unlike anything anyone could have ever imagined. We have not introduced our own wonderful and unique culture to the world and, in truth all we have ever done is slaughter billions and billions of innocents, create AIDS and other horrible plagues through secret government experiments, destroy the environment and countless other deplorably horrible things. I hate America. I am Flashkit. Because folks, that's all Flashkit is anymore and it's really sad. You've joined the annuls of fark.com and other all-BS, all the time, trash conservatives by attacking them personally, feeling underrepresented so you censor bulletin boards, yada, yada, yada. ALL of you Europeans and other foreigners who think you are enlightened need a good, solid kick in the rear end, several history lessons taught by my biased but incredibly liberal (yet not liberal enough) American education system, and some quick lessons in responsibility and accountability. How much longer do you think this anti-American, blame everything wrong with the world on America sentiment will last? Not long I'm afraid. For all of you, there is no truth, because any source I credit gets attacked as being rightwing or biased. Politically-speaking, most of you are completely pathetic and are devoid of any substantive education on any issue other than the mistruths you read on the wonderful Internet. I don't know who's worse, the admitted, open socialists and totalitarian Communists at FK (of which there are plenty), or the mass amounts of people who share the same view I do, but never speak up for fear of mod ramifications. I say again, pathetic, all of you. Oh wait, DP, I think it's time to close this thread. And, it would be even cooler if you would erase the thread from the board so no one can read my thorough and accurate analysis of a bunch of worthless ingrates at Flashkit who have nothing better to do but yap yap yap about an American President who defends his population. How happy I am that a majority of America fully supports chimp man and his re-election effort. I rue the day that anyone as far left as Hillary Clinton is elected here and/or anyone with the simpleton leftist views often spouted unintelligently and unintelligably on FK come into power. Flame on my friends...I mean, thread closed. This is my calling at FK. Anytime anyone starts a STUPID, ignoramous thread, I have made it my job to clog the thread with vile hatred and seething anger until it is closed. I am fine in this role. Can you all take it, or will I be pushed to the brink of banishment at FK. Not that censorship ever happens at Flashkit. No, couldn't be. Let me guess, I need to find and cite one example where censorship has occurred. Bleh! Get a life Bush-haters!!! Silly me, I'm just a selfish arrogant American like all the rest...pathetic...

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    Good moderators would have closed and deleted this moronic thread long ago and not allowed idiotic stupid rantings from some unknown idiotic source to stand as a point and basis for discussion in a community already rife with leftist bigotry and zealotry. Simply amazing that this thread is allowed here. But that's just my opinion, I could be wrong...but I'm not.
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    Originally posted by suehami
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    sorry this link doesnt work! anyway try a search for the quote ... i'm sure it will give it in context and reliably reported
    no i did do 2 quick searches. nothing.

    but hey i guess if we repeat it enough it will be true. then once it's true we can turn the fire on in the ovens.

    also the second half of this 'article' is far more interesting/illuminating .... my advice.... skip the early conspiracy theory stuff and read the last half .... far more scary.
    20th century death tolls. in case you want to check some of the figures.
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