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    How much time does your boss give you?

    I'm curious about others projects and how much time they
    would have liked to have vs how much time you get to design,
    actionscript and HTML things into a site, presentation, or
    courseware project?

    Do you work with other designers/developers? Or are you like
    me, the only designer in the house? I work at a small software
    development company with lots of Chinese and Indian programmers - Ugh

    Do you work with clients or content experts through the
    project?

    I'm trying to get more time for my projects (a lot of cdrom and
    web design typically) and I think that my "multiple know-nothing
    about design bosses" think everything should be done in two weeks.
    Makes me not enjoy my job cause I'm just "bustin it out"
    if you know what I mean, and like to show what can be done
    with some love and patience

    frustrated,

    goose

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    Can empathize with you Goose, but not having a job right now it's hard to feel sorry for you.

    If your boss is happy with your output, try and be happy too!

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    I know, that's good advice. That's the other half of the story,
    I'm still working.

    They let all the other ones go, knocked my pay down to 14.90
    an hour and I try to wear many hats. We need to get out of
    this recession!

    All the programmers there are over seas H1-B visa workers,
    makes me sick for those guys too.

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    Understand. Their(H1-B visa workers) cost of living is lower and they welcome the work...but they are being used too, and one of these days they'll realize it, but there will always be someone hungrier than you are that will take the work for less, and the "Ties" will go there, somehow the recessions never hurt them (the "Ties"). They have their golden parachutes.

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    Reading my mind or something? - As a matter of fact, we have
    more "ties" now than ever. This year we hired:

    A new CEO
    A project manager
    A business developer guy? Sales? I dunno

    But no new designers. We need them in all ways, web, flash, print
    cause the stuff the third world programmers put together is
    UGLY and you anit got no alibi

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    This is the very reason "unions" came into being, but they have a dirty image now, and part of that is deserved, but the concept of workers uniting for a fair wage, decent working conditions, and reasonable hours,for the pay is a noble one...too bad some of the top union folks got caught up in the same corruption as the corporate scene. Some folks just been kissed by the faeries. "Old Irish" expression. Whereas the working man just got to keep working.

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    About the unions, in the ideal way, I totally agree. Here in the
    south they've never had a foot hold to begin with. But I grew
    up in the midwest and can see & side with what unions
    provided.

    Lot of this is being written about right now (least on the web),

    Did NAFTA do this to us? IT turns out to be one of the hardest
    hit professions I think. I don't blame the current situation entirely
    on the dot bomb bust, that doesn't explain everything.

    The telecom bust? It's like the common denominator is money
    and the "ties" protecting their usefullness in new skill set
    world.

    Our company president doesn't have any computer background,
    can't get his email to work and just trashed his machine when he
    tried to "upgrade his BIOS cause it was crashing lots." Lord.

    I live in one of those IBM comercials, no kidding.

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    It wasn't just NAFTA, but that really got their foot in the door, more and more the common man's working ethnic and leverage is being eroded. We are ending up the bad guys, and viewed as expendable, while the guys in white shirts and ties, with stock options and fingers in everyone else's businesses are seen as capitalist idols. they are playing the con...and at this point they are winning.

    I don't know how to fight it. I am just a little person.
    Last edited by phacker; 08-12-2003 at 09:14 PM.

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    Ugh! 5,000 textile jobs were lost this week in NC to overseas
    cheap labour (Chinese I understand), and this is in a part of the state where there is nothing else, and won't be.

    I think people, from all walks of life, are going to start putting
    2 and 2 together. People can have all kinds of trouble, but
    when you take their jobs away, that's cornner stone, and would
    expect some kind of action.

    We are flooded with both White collar and Blue collar
    replacements - how are we the middle class to have some
    decent standard of living if this keeps up?

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    Sooner or later when there is no middle class left in the US, and the ties can't sell their cheap goods to anyone here, because no one but the snobs have jobs, maybe then people will wake up. But everyone buys into the neocon jargon that if you don't support free trade your stock values, i.e. your retirement investments will go down....they do anyway when crooked ventures have their way, but...like I said I don't know how to fight it. Good luck Goose and keep your chin up.

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    I am animator, this is kind of the way I feel about the whole corporate scam thing...with "Charlie" being the corporate heads. Just wanted to share. Hope it's not out of line

    http://www.tco.net/~phacker/waterfront.html

    and a little Labor Day thing I put together:

    http://www.tco.net/~phacker/wantmyjob.html

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    Mind explainin?

    I'm neither Chinese nor Indian, *BUT* I'd love to hear you explain your comment below...

    Do you work with other designers/developers? Or are you like
    me, the only designer in the house? I work at a small software
    development company with lots of Chinese and Indian programmers - Ugh

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    I don't think he was implying anything ethnically. Probably his experience has included poor performance and output, and maybe there is a problem with language or communication.

    Would you have been upset if one of the mentioned nationalities had been French...they are getting trashed a lot right now and hardly anyone stands up for them.
    Last edited by phacker; 08-13-2003 at 12:15 PM.

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    Hi Phracker,
    You're right, and that may be what he meant. I am neither ethnicity, and I may not stand up for the French, but the reason I took offense is because I work with primarily Chinese, Indian, and Russian developers. I'm the only software engineer born and raised in the U.S.A. and I can attest to the skill, talent, and hardwork they do. Bottom line is that in most cases they know more than me. Communication is always a challenge, but its a challenge between any 2 people, regardless. Having to deal with developers that speak english as a second language has taught me to be more patient and to really *really* listen. But thats just me. Thanks for pointing out what you pointed out...

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    Yeah, the trouble is communication mostly and some cultural
    things for them I think. We're such a visual society.

    And my experience is that they will deliver a program/code,
    and it does everything as requested, but comes up short in a
    commercial perspective. Can others use it? Understand
    it? I have to go through every dialog box and watch for spelling
    and grammar problems.

    But I've learned tons about ASP, SQL, XML from my buddy M.
    and he has come along way in considerations for how his
    interfaces look. But we've had three years to work through
    these bumps.

    So, I think there is a trade off in the end. You may save money
    at first but, then spend extra hours and money getting things
    clear and right.

    Liked your tunes phacker, not offensive.
    Last edited by goose2000; 08-13-2003 at 05:52 PM.

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    I have noticed the same thing Goose, The language and culture thing can be more challanging than coding the product!

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