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    Your opinion of my country (USA)

    Almost every day I hear about how the French hates us, or places in the middle east that do as well, and thats all I ever hear about it. No explanations or opinions, just flat out doesen't like Americans. I'm not talking about politics, and I don't want to talk about politics, but I want to know your opinion of the U.S. if your from a different country, and why. Please be honest
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    *guys, this does not give you full license to flame*

    You might have wanted to search on this one before asking. Word to the wise... I hope you have thick skin.

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    I recommend just closing this now, as a pre-emptive strike.

    Personally, I don't mind my country.


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    Thats exactly what I'm talking about. Your saying that theirs such strong negative feelings, lets see what they are.
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    I think what you're hearing is quite extreme. From the european perspective a lot of people hate your government, but most make the distinction between cheney and his cronies and the american people themselves.

    Do other countries make fun of americans? Yeah sure they do, they say americans are fat and guileless, but they also say french people are obnoxious and snobby, and english people are prince charles (or benny hill) etc etc.

    Don't mix up long standing stereotypes with the animosity towards your government, they're not the same thing.

    I've lived in europe for ten years, america for 4 years, canada for 2 years, australia for 18 months and I've spent a lot of time in other places around the world, including the middle east.


    I'll be watching this thread closely, people step over the line and it'll be closed.

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    A lot of people hate us, it's going to be hard to swallow, I know, because it was for me. It is also kind of liberating to find that out, I am alot more critical of many of the things our goverment does, and I also understand now why everyone hate's us.

    Aversion makes a great point though, everyone makes fun of everyone. It is just covered up pretty well over here that nobody likes us

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    I think that your country has done very well for itself, considering it's mostly made up of Europeans anyway.

    I can't quite see how anybody could vote for Bush.

    I really can't stand how much censorship you guys have, you are barely allowed to see anything at all. One flash of a nipple and the whole flipping country freaks out! Oscars delayed by 5 seconds just incase and everything. It happens, it's called a breast, well done, move on. Whether it was staged or not is very different, I suppose, but come on.

    I think your president has far too much power than any man should have, and that your country should be split up into four or five smaller countries, making them a similar size to the EU.

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    my two cents.

    as an American that has travelled outside of the US quite a bit; I have to say that it's our foreign policies, stuff that isn't normally made known in the news that often, that the rest of the world takes offense with.

    well that, and so many people fit the so-called "American stereotype"... no need in perpetuating that one.

    Anyway, all-in-all... you can't be from one place without another place having some preconceived idea of what you represent.

    But the majority of the issues as of late is with the US government.

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    Don't mix up long standing stereotypes with the animosity towards your government, they're not the same thing.
    I said in the beginning that I'm not taking about government, Im talking about sterotypes.
    I'm not talking about politics, and I don't want to talk about politics
    I do agree we have too much censorship
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    Originally posted by falshdancer
    I said in the beginning that I'm not taking about government, Im talking about sterotypes.
    that's why I said that. I think the stereotypes are as good/bad as they ever have been and every other major country has their own.

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    yea, but stereotypes make for some good comedy...if people laughed more, stereotypes wouldnt have the negative conotations they do. The key is self deprecation - very healthy, im starting to take doses of it myself. ...what the hell am i talking about? Well anyways..

    if you want to know how some people think about US, listen to morrissey's "America is not the world" - its fairly honest...

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    The stereotypes should be taken light-heartedly but in times of stress when people feel like the eyes of the world are on them and the media perpetuate a culture of fear they seem a lot more negative than they really are.

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    Yeah I think your right aversion, thats probly the reason I keep hearing the negativity towards us. It just gets amplified thru hard times.
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    I like it. In fact, if I could leave my country, the USA probably would be one of the first places I would visit.

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    where are you from?
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    Venezuela.

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    I love my country.

    Just not all of the people in it.
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    Originally posted by PAlexC
    I love my country.

    Just not all of the people in it.
    That's where it's at, folks. alex gets it right.


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    I don't hate the USA nor do I hate Americans, however I do dislike many of the ways America has dealt with it's foreign affairs.

    Unfair tariffs, biased trade agreements, political hypocracy, media propoganda, unneccesary wars/invasions, selective "humanitarian intervention"...

    All are issues that can be seen as negative actions on the part of the US. However that doesn't mean I'm going to hate Americans, in fact most Americans have virtually no control over any of these things.

    Simply put, America is a huge country. Perhaps the world's only true superpower. Its actions effect the rest of the world. So naturally it's negative actions, that effect the rest of the world negatively, are going to be criticized and disliked by parts of the international community.

    Think of it this way. Your child loses your wedding ring (or something very precious to you). You hate that they lost the ring and you hate that the ring is gone; however, that doesn't mean you hate your child.

    Too many people think stereotypes to be true, or believe that just because we don't support the US. We automatically hate them. Kindof a "with us or against us" way of thinking.

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    America has "censorship" in different ways. As far as sex and boobies on TV, it's not shown on public television. However, it's not censored in the sense that nobody can see this material without prosecution if they desire. You just have to pay for it. Can't say that for many countries in the middle east and Asia. I mean, the U.S. has the world's largest legal porn industry, how restrictive can it be? We censor stuff in the sense that, if you're a child, you can't look at nudity unless you have parental consent. We don't censor films like Australia. (where they actually strip out content before the films hit the stores). We have ratings, but that isn't censorship, it's just basic common sense. A 5 year old probably shouldn't see Pulp Fiction unless he's got parental permission. If he happens to sneak in there, his parents won't get their hands cut off. Other countries don't care if their kid sees a nip. But you won't see violence. Violence however is freely shown without hesitation in the U.S. I think the reason for this is the remaining influece of those damn Puritans.
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