I don't like Microsoft, IE, and my CSS code doesn't always work. Wah.

[Subway]

I blame Microsoft ... no really, I do.

Fredi

[silverx2]

i wouldnt doubt it for a second. This whole world could be the matrix run on apple hardware and everytime there was a glitch im sure you would blame microsoft.

[Subway]

You must understand, I created 15 css templates this week and I will need at least another week to make them work with IE6, probably two (IE 5.5 at least isn't a priority anymore and IE7 does a pretty good job for most things).

Fredi

[hanratty21]

i wouldnt doubt it for a second. This whole world could be the matrix run on apple hardware and everytime there was a glitch im sure you would blame microsoft.

Silver - stop trying...it's fruitless...he's been blinded by Jobs, deafened by open source, and left for dead by Tux the penguin. This one can't be saved.

[Subway]

You guys should do more CSS and JavaScript, that would teach you to hate Microsoft, promised.

Fredi

[silverx2]

aww subby thats why you get paid so much.

if you dont like it feel free to come work in retail, ill get you folding clothes realy nice.

[Subway]

I don't work for money, I do what I do because I love my job ... well, everything except all the IE problems I have to find ways around.

Next time you wonder why your favorite web app or service hasn't the features you want or need, it may be because ...

... the dev couldn't make it work on IE
... the time wasted for IE hacks could have been used to create the feature
... the dev was so frustrated from hacking IE, that the idea never came to him
... all the hate for IE made the dev quit his job (to work in retail)



Fredi

[hanratty21]

I don't work for money, I do what I do because I love my job ... well, everything except all the over 80% of the worlds browsers problems I have to find ways around.

Next time you wonder why your favorite web app or service hasn't the features you want or need, it may be because ...

... the dev couldn't make it work on over 80% of the worlds browsers
... the time wasted for over 80% of the worlds browsers hacks could have been used to create the feature
... the dev was so frustrated from hacking over 80% of the worlds browsers, that the idea never came to him
... all the hate for over 80% of the worlds browsers made the dev quit his job (to work in retail)



Fredi

Honestly dude...if you were a tailor...and you made shirts with 3 arm holes...or tried to sell single socks instead of in pairs, or pants with no openings at the bottom...they might fit some people...but for most...it would be useless. Please stop...you're making our collective brains hurt with your incessant Apple/Mac/Linux/open Source ramblings. People like Al Gore and what he stands for...but they really don't want to hear his rhetoric all that much. Take note.

[Subway]

No matter how big a piece of **** is, it's still ****.

Fredi

[silverx2]

keep in mind, **** is used to make plants grow better.

[jasonsplace]

You guys should do more CSS and JavaScript, that would teach you to hate Microsoft, promised.

Fredi

I write CSS/XHTML/JavaScript everyday and I love Microsoft. I think that IE is a piece of crap but every company makes a couple crappy products...just walk into any Apple store and you'll find a lot of good examples. Other than IE though I don't really have a problem with MS's software. I use WMP for video playback and it works fine, Windows Messenger for chatting and Windows XP/Vista as my operating system and as far as i'm concerned, those are quality products.

[Subway]

But IE is a piece of crap! And what's even worse, it's a different kind of crap with each new version, so you don't only have to hack and test for IE, you have to hack and test for IE 5.x, IE 6.x, IE 7.x ... ok, with IE 7 they at least learned some lessons and made it follow more of the accepted standards.

Fredi

[TallGuyLittleCar]

interesting...all my css files work across all browsers, except of course when i use png files.

[Subway]

Oh, I have some that work, but many that don't. Interestingly you can create a design that works perfectly in IE 7 and all other browsers, a design that doesn't use anything special, just a mix of absolute and relative positioning, some floats, different margins and stuff, and surprise, surprise, it looks completely different in IE 6 and even worse in IE 5.5. Sometimes just one pixel more or less can completely break a layout in IE 6 and create something extremely broken in IE 5.5.

Fredi

[ihoss.com]

I bet you can't say one negative thing about Sony or Apple, or say one nice thing about Microsoft. Come on, I dare you!

[Eleniatari]

In his mind he will replace sony, or apple with Microsoft...Give up already hoss.

HAHAHA FF will not let you correct sony with Sony, it gives you a bunch of other things to correct it with.

[Subway]

I bet you can't say one negative thing about Sony or Apple, or say one nice thing about Microsoft. Come on, I dare you!

Oh, Sony created a lot of crap, especially Sony Music. Apple isn't perfect either, for example I can't use the Mighty Mouse, it just feels unnatural. Microsoft ... well, that's hard ... hmmm ... I had a lot of fun with that MS-DOS snake game, I even created new levels and changed the gameplay back in the day, it got me through some really boring classes.

Fredi

[EVPohovich]

If you coded your CSS correctly you would not need hacks. Sounds to me like you need to do some research...

[Subway]

One example: IE (before version 7) uses a different box model than the rest of the world, so if you have a float element with a fixed size, for example a sidebar and you have a fixed sized content block on the other side, than it can happen that the whole content block will be displayed below the float element as IE will create a bigger sidebar than the rest of the world. Of course the hack around this issue is pretty easy, but that isn't the question here.

Fredi

[EVPohovich]

The question is why can I create a floating box with one code (no hacks) that works in all browsers and you can not?