preloaders

[Eddie Hillegers]

Originally posted by FlashGuru
i am not attacking you, there is a difference between spreading my opinion and attacking you, i involved praystation because that is one of the sites that many users on this site visit!


How do you figure that the target audience is the people in the pub?!? you must have differnet clients to most of us then!

If you dont want to hear other peoples opinions dont make a thread telling us that preoloaders shoudl be made obsolete as i and many other strongly disagree!

ok well we are straight on not atacking each other than.
people in the pub is a figure of speach.and stands for
almost everybody . even me and i don't drink.

i'm trying to give arguments as in why i think preloaders
have an opposite affect. one of them is the stuff i hear
on the street (pub) and it's not all in favorite of flash.

my clients are indeed small shops in town (amsterdam)
and i'm having a hard time selling them a flash site
becuase of the overall opinon about it.
that's also the reason why i would like to find ways
to avoid preloaders. becuase then i can convince my clients
that it is well worth for them to have a flashbased site
created.


cheers eddie.

took a while but it's sometimes difficult to say it in english.

[cobweb]

A preloader does not deem worthy if you are preloading a 350k file and the preloader is just an animation that loops for 2 min till the file loads! There are far too many of these on the web (these are the bad ones that hurt Flash design). If it incorporates a percentage then it's serves the purpose. That way (as we all know) the surfer has some reference of time needed to wait on this file, then they are able to make a judgement call if they should stay or leave. Those are the good preloaders, IMO.

[FlashGuru]

Yes a good preoloader is one that leads the viewer to belive that the site is not preloading, ie.. the preloading occurs while the rest of your movie plays!

Seamless preloading is a good technique and one which is easy to grasp!

[phooka]

One of the best ways I've seen preloading work refers to sites where pics and main contents are read first (150 kbs do not take long) while music starts a bit later. Is this preloading?: you "preload" the main site giving the user the opportunity to start navigation. And one minute later, a fade in introduces the music once it has been loaded.

Of course, a streaming option seems more reasonable, but I seem to have more control if the whole mp3 has been loaded at once.

I aggree with Guy: it is not important the number of kbs, what is important is that the user is not there waiting to start. If the user is oblivious to the fact that more kbs are being added into a pop-up window, that is a perfect preloader (IMHO)...

Maybe the problem is that we've understood the word "pre-loader" as the typical "Now loading" sentence and the loading bar. In my new site, for example, there are 5 or 6 preloaders, but none of them look like the traditional one!

Regards,
David

[a_slosh]

I totally agree with you Eddie.

Flash was meant to be used for streaming multimedia (ie no preloaders). Having preloaders defeats the whole point.

I recommend that people read an excellent tutorial on Flashkit:

http://www.flashkit.com/cgi-bin/tuto...ump.cgi?ID=555

This is how Flash should be used. Well done to the author.

[Eddie Hillegers]

Originally posted by a_slosh
I totally agree with you Eddie.

Flash was meant to be used for streaming multimedia (ie no preloaders). Having preloaders defeats the whole point.

I recommend that people read an excellent tutorial on Flashkit:

http://www.flashkit.com/cgi-bin/tuto...ump.cgi?ID=555

This is how Flash should be used. Well done to the author.

cheers a_slosh sometimes somebody else can say in one sentence what i have been trying to say all along.

i made a site for a kite org. the main inteface is
29 kb it streams well on a 14.4k modem, there is a preloader in there but you will never see it unless
your connection has got hickups, even than it wil only
be the size of one html page you have to wait for.
http://www.webnl.com/kitefestival

In all my talks with people there is realy only one thing
that comes out, and that's the long waiting time in flashmovie's before you even get to an navbar/interface.

ok i'm off to read the tutorial.

cheers ed