Another thing that keeps me from taking my flash designs to that Twilight Zone region. Everyone that frequents these boards are some what quick to figure out the Flash technology. An ordinary user(in this case a client) might not understand how to navigate a site so I tend to keep my designs simple, honestly toooo simple. I 've trashed about 4 sites in the last 3 months trying to create an interface that is good design and concept yet easy for the normal user to navigate. The new site will have a very different form of navigation, well a different twist on a current form.