[BETA] Fireworks testing

dbarbarian · 07-22-2005, 05:11 AM

I recently made a fireworks engine and I was wondering how it ran on other people's comps.

Pleas post the fps and your system specs with different number and types of fireworks.

Thank you

Use 1,2,3,4,5 to create fireworks. I will probably implement this into my games and then maybe make a game of its own.

http://members.lycos.co.uk/dounanthe...ireworks.html?

gaming monkey · 07-22-2005, 06:20 AM

Ooooh, aaah....

Constant 24-25 fps with a single firework on mine (256ram, 2.01Ghz, AMD Athalon XP 2400+)

Very nice!

When I randomly mashed the keyboard and had about 7-10 fireworks the framerate dropped to 7fps.

nick_das · 07-22-2005, 07:16 AM

Nice effect. I'm liking it

Spec: P4 2.8 GHz, 512 Ram, IE 6

22-24 fps with a single firework

I pressed each number 5 times in quick succession and these are the lowest FPS i got. This was after around 4/5 tries for each

1 : 5fps
2 : 9fps
3 : 12fPs
4 : 15fps
5 : 16fps

lesli_felix · 07-22-2005, 09:45 AM

Very cool. Had to fire up IE to use it though

Doesn't work in firefox. Something to do with the lycos frame keeping focus off the movie so the keys don't work.

Freakwncy02 · 07-22-2005, 12:29 PM

24-25 ... 1.8 256 Netscpe8.0 ...
but when i fire 10 of them at random... drop down to 4 fps avg....still pretty cool...
I hope u're going to share ur secret w/ us... it's way cool...

**tonypa** · 07-22-2005, 12:37 PM

Around 9 fps for 1 firework.
Having more then 5 same time dropped it to 0 (dont think I have seen 0 fps before).

Opera 8.01, Flash player 8.

dbarbarian · 07-22-2005, 12:54 PM

You can't delete posts?
sry, for the double post.

dbarbarian · 07-22-2005, 12:55 PM

thanks for the info everybody

gaming monkey: the "1" firework is the most cpu intensive because it has the most particles. I can launch 5 of the "4" or "5" and it would only go down to around 14 fps, but it goes down to 5 fps when i launch 5 of the "1" firework

nick_das: thanks

I'm suprised that 3 was faster than 2.

lesli_felix: lol, sry. Yes, I am still using IE. Too lazy to get firefox.

Freakwncy02: The secret is that you animate the particles so you don't have to cycle through all of them to move them.
For example: the "1" firework shoots up, explodes moves all the "heads" with AS and creates the particles with AS, but the particles are all tweened. For fireworks "4" and "5" all the explosion particles are attached into a empty movie clip. The particles are all tweened and the container is moved downward with AS.
I tried moving everything with AS, but it was way too slow to make anything look good.

tonypa: which firework did you launch for the 9 fps?
lol, 0 fps.
[offtopic] I need to thank you for your tilebased tutorials. I have been attempting to make a tilebased game, and it has really helped a ton. so, Thank You

[/offtopic]

VENGEANCE MX · 07-22-2005, 01:46 PM

Why not enable Bitmap Caching using one of the Flash Player 8 drag-and-drop programs?

dbarbarian · 07-22-2005, 02:41 PM

VENGEANCE MX: huh? please explain.

**tonypa** · 07-22-2005, 02:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dbarbarian

tonypa: which firework did you launch for the 9 fps?
lol, 0 fps.
[offtopic] I need to thank you for your tilebased tutorials. I have been attempting to make a tilebased game, and it has really helped a ton. so, Thank You

[/offtopic]

I used number 1. Didnt know they are actually different.

Nice to hear you liked the tutorials

crashlanding · 07-22-2005, 05:26 PM

25 fps, went down to five as i put about 8 fireworks on screen.

WilloughbyJackson · 07-22-2005, 06:40 PM

You might want to put a limit on the number of fireworks on screen.. Or...reduce the quality to low the more fireworks on screen...

I don't know.. but I like it.

strille · 07-22-2005, 07:39 PM

Nice. The fps was about 20 when firing number 1. When all 5 different types were on the screen at the same time the movie had a low point on 7 fps (AMD 1400, 512Mb Ram, Flash Player 8 beta, IE 6).

dbarbarian · 07-22-2005, 07:58 PM

tonypa: I'll try making everything bitmaps and update it. That should help.

crashlanding: yea, 8 fireworks will do that. especially the number 1 firework

WilloughbyJackson: This is only a test to see how the frame rate is. When I implement this into games, I will control the number of fireworks. I'll keep that in mind though when I make it into a game of its own.
Glad you liked it

strille: Wow. Flash Player 8 beta. How much faster is that than flash player 7? Because the fps is very good for a 512 mb ram (i think).

strille · 07-22-2005, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Wow. Flash Player 8 beta. How much faster is that than flash player 7?

It's available here: http://www.macromedia.com/software/f...r/public_beta/
I haven't seen a huge improvement in performance myself, but FP8 is supposted to run a lot faster on Macs compared to FP7. And with bitmap caching enabled graphic performance is increased quite a lot.

dbarbarian · 07-22-2005, 08:42 PM

Sweet. Thanks for the link

About bitmap caching: Do you need Flash MX 2005 to be able to use that, or will the flashplayer 8 be able to render MCs as btimaps on its own?

strille · 07-22-2005, 09:00 PM

It needs to be turned on, so old Flash content will not benefit from this. Check out this thread for more info: http://www.flashkit.com/board/showthread.php?t=640465

dbarbarian · 07-22-2005, 09:51 PM

WOW! I just played around with it for a little bit, and got it working. Flash 8 is pretty awesome =)

I couldn't get cacheAsBitmap working on mine because I am changing more than just the x and y values.

Thanks again for the link

KyleGut3 · 07-23-2005, 05:38 AM

It stayed around 25-26 for one.... but what im thinking is about 12 or so dropped it to 0, I still cant get the window to close. :x

07-22-2005, 05:11 AM	#1
dbarbarian I tried... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, California, USA Posts: 677	[BETA] Fireworks testing I recently made a fireworks engine and I was wondering how it ran on other people's comps. Pleas post the fps and your system specs with different number and types of fireworks. Thank you Use 1,2,3,4,5 to create fireworks. I will probably implement this into my games and then maybe make a game of its own. http://members.lycos.co.uk/dounanthe...ireworks.html? __________________ http://www.dbarbarian.net

07-22-2005, 07:16 AM	#3
nick_das Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London, UK Posts: 85	Nice effect. I'm liking it Spec: P4 2.8 GHz, 512 Ram, IE 6 22-24 fps with a single firework I pressed each number 5 times in quick succession and these are the lowest FPS i got. This was after around 4/5 tries for each 1 : 5fps 2 : 9fps 3 : 12fPs 4 : 15fps 5 : 16fps Last edited by nick_das; 07-22-2005 at 07:18 AM.

07-22-2005, 12:29 PM	#5
Freakwncy02 Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 90	24-25 ... 1.8 256 Netscpe8.0 ... but when i fire 10 of them at random... drop down to 4 fps avg....still pretty cool... I hope u're going to share ur secret w/ us... it's way cool... __________________ Freakwncy - God made me a nerd because: If the Penagon didn't have someone to reformat their HD's, they would be full of porn and online games.

07-22-2005, 12:54 PM	#7
dbarbarian I tried... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, California, USA Posts: 677	You can't delete posts? sry, for the double post. __________________ http://www.dbarbarian.net Last edited by dbarbarian; 07-22-2005 at 01:04 PM. Reason: double post

07-22-2005, 12:55 PM	#8
dbarbarian I tried... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, California, USA Posts: 677	thanks for the info everybody gaming monkey: the "1" firework is the most cpu intensive because it has the most particles. I can launch 5 of the "4" or "5" and it would only go down to around 14 fps, but it goes down to 5 fps when i launch 5 of the "1" firework nick_das: thanks I'm suprised that 3 was faster than 2. lesli_felix: lol, sry. Yes, I am still using IE. Too lazy to get firefox. Freakwncy02: The secret is that you animate the particles so you don't have to cycle through all of them to move them. For example: the "1" firework shoots up, explodes moves all the "heads" with AS and creates the particles with AS, but the particles are all tweened. For fireworks "4" and "5" all the explosion particles are attached into a empty movie clip. The particles are all tweened and the container is moved downward with AS. I tried moving everything with AS, but it was way too slow to make anything look good. tonypa: which firework did you launch for the 9 fps? lol, 0 fps. [offtopic] I need to thank you for your tilebased tutorials. I have been attempting to make a tilebased game, and it has really helped a ton. so, Thank You [/offtopic] __________________ http://www.dbarbarian.net

07-22-2005, 06:20 AM	#2
gaming monkey Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Uk Posts: 190	Ooooh, aaah.... Constant 24-25 fps with a single firework on mine (256ram, 2.01Ghz, AMD Athalon XP 2400+) Very nice! When I randomly mashed the keyboard and had about 7-10 fireworks the framerate dropped to 7fps.

07-22-2005, 09:45 AM	#4
lesli_felix ....he's amazing!!! Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: London UK Posts: 1,504	Very cool. Had to fire up IE to use it though Doesn't work in firefox. Something to do with the lycos frame keeping focus off the movie so the keys don't work.

07-22-2005, 12:37 PM	#6
tonypa Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Estonia Posts: 8,138	Around 9 fps for 1 firework. Having more then 5 same time dropped it to 0 (dont think I have seen 0 fps before). Opera 8.01, Flash player 8.

07-22-2005, 01:46 PM	#9
VENGEANCE MX Script kiddie Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: England Posts: 2,559	Why not enable Bitmap Caching using one of the Flash Player 8 drag-and-drop programs? __________________ http://www.birchlabs.co.uk/ You know you want to.

07-22-2005, 02:41 PM	#10
dbarbarian I tried... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, California, USA Posts: 677	VENGEANCE MX: huh? please explain. __________________ http://www.dbarbarian.net

07-22-2005, 05:26 PM	#12
crashlanding Flash hates me. Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: UK Posts: 439	25 fps, went down to five as i put about 8 fireworks on screen. __________________ "wen i found my gerbil dead my other gerbil was eating it i just cried and screamed" http://www.livescripts.net -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Last edited by some moderator : Today at 9:01 PM.

07-22-2005, 06:40 PM	#13
WilloughbyJackson Patron Saint of Beatings Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Ro-cha-cha-cha, New York Posts: 1,992	You might want to put a limit on the number of fireworks on screen.. Or...reduce the quality to low the more fireworks on screen... I don't know.. but I like it.

07-22-2005, 07:39 PM	#14
strille Untitled-1.fla Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,626	Nice. The fps was about 20 when firing number 1. When all 5 different types were on the screen at the same time the movie had a low point on 7 fps (AMD 1400, 512Mb Ram, Flash Player 8 beta, IE 6). __________________ AS 3.0 Water Effect :: ActionScript 3.0 Raytracer :: The Curse of Sylvaniah :: Tutorials

07-22-2005, 07:58 PM	#15
dbarbarian I tried... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, California, USA Posts: 677	tonypa: I'll try making everything bitmaps and update it. That should help. crashlanding: yea, 8 fireworks will do that. especially the number 1 firework WilloughbyJackson: This is only a test to see how the frame rate is. When I implement this into games, I will control the number of fireworks. I'll keep that in mind though when I make it into a game of its own. Glad you liked it strille: Wow. Flash Player 8 beta. How much faster is that than flash player 7? Because the fps is very good for a 512 mb ram (i think). __________________ http://www.dbarbarian.net

07-22-2005, 08:42 PM	#17
dbarbarian I tried... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, California, USA Posts: 677	Sweet. Thanks for the link About bitmap caching: Do you need Flash MX 2005 to be able to use that, or will the flashplayer 8 be able to render MCs as btimaps on its own? __________________ http://www.dbarbarian.net

07-22-2005, 09:00 PM	#18
strille Untitled-1.fla Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,626	It needs to be turned on, so old Flash content will not benefit from this. Check out this thread for more info: http://www.flashkit.com/board/showthread.php?t=640465 __________________ AS 3.0 Water Effect :: ActionScript 3.0 Raytracer :: The Curse of Sylvaniah :: Tutorials

07-22-2005, 09:51 PM	#19
dbarbarian I tried... Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Berkeley, California, USA Posts: 677	WOW! I just played around with it for a little bit, and got it working. Flash 8 is pretty awesome =) I couldn't get cacheAsBitmap working on mine because I am changing more than just the x and y values. Thanks again for the link __________________ http://www.dbarbarian.net

07-23-2005, 05:38 AM	#20
KyleGut3 aka BuTTons Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Under a Rock Posts: 22	It stayed around 25-26 for one.... but what im thinking is about 12 or so dropped it to 0, I still cant get the window to close. :x __________________

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