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Old 08-19-2005, 08:47 PM   #1
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Holey Moley That Was Fast

I just logged into NetSol about 4 hours ago and redirected my domain to a new host and new DNS, and it's already propogated.

Use to take 3-4 days, not 3-4 hours.

I like that.
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Old 08-19-2005, 08:52 PM   #2
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F netsol! They try to charge for every little thing. I have 4 URL's to transfer to my NetSol account and they want 20 bucks per URL! Godaddy does it for free! And I have literally bought a URL at godaddy, pointed it at my server and pulled up the site in 5 min.
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Say what you want, but I've had aftermarket names sellers and registrars sell domains out from under me the minute the bill was due, and never got a notice. Netsol warns you months in advance and will hold it for like 6 months after the bill is past due. And I can log in and change anything I want myself. There is no middleman. That kind of service is worth paying for.
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:17 PM   #4
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Yep.
I still tell clients that it will take between 24-72 hours for their domain to propagate but it always seems to happen within a couple of hours.
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Old 08-19-2005, 09:26 PM   #5
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That kind of service is worth paying for.
That kind of service is now standard at all but the lowest fly-by-night resellers.

Godaddy is one of the most reputable registrars along with 1and1 and a multitude of others.
I have used several top and not-so-top registrars in both my personal and business needs and found no difference in the quality of service among a majority of them.
Bah, it's your money.
Try speculating on a few thousand domains and see what it does to your profit margin.
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Old 08-19-2005, 10:00 PM   #6
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go daddy is fast too... just ask EVP
and reputable as LR says. they start sending me notices at 90 days with any domain set to expire.
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:12 PM   #7
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Try speculating on a few thousand domains and see what it does to your profit margin.
You've got to be kidding? Why not just take a bag of money out on the street and just throw it in the wind?
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Old 08-19-2005, 11:36 PM   #8
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I don't know iaskwhy... I think godaddy deserves a second look since you last had that experience, really you could add more to your bottom line using it.
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And I can log in and change anything I want myself.
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I don't buy a lot of domains, and I only own 2. But my partner has several and they are through godaddy. And he has no idea what a server contol panel is. I've tried explaining it, even sent him a screenshot, and he's never seen one at godaddy. Personally, I couldn't live without it.

And this isn't about NetSol or godaddy, it's about how fast a new DNS can propogate. I remember 5 or 6 years ago, it would take 3 or 4 days, and in that time, you never knew what server you were seeing your site on. Sometimes it would be there, then an hour later, nothing. Now, it's only hours, and that's simply amazing to me.
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I don't buy a lot of domains, and I only own 2. But my partner has several and they are through godaddy. And he has no idea what a server contol panel is. I've tried explaining it, even sent him a screenshot, and he's never seen one at godaddy. Personally, I couldn't live without it.
Yea, you should see the go daddy control panel. I am logging into it myself right now to set a couple domains to redirect to a different server for free. Not a DNS change, just a redirect provided by go-daddy. I can even mask it so you don't know what the 'actual' domain it's being redirected to is for a couple extra bucks. I can even alias emails from my domains at go daddy to other mail accounts for free.

I don't think the speed factor is unique to netsol either.... I rarely wait more than 12 hours for domain to fully propigate. I was just poking fun at EVP, we registered a domain at the same time, in fact I think he got a jump on it at an even cheaper place... I ended up with the domain and had it redirected to my server in a few hours.

But I guess if you don't register alot of domains, it won't help your margin much.
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I think you got it wrong. NetSol is where I bought my domain names. My account lets me log in and set the DNS names myself. And that's all NetSol is for. I don't host with them, I don't buy an e-mail account.

Once I buy the domain, I can host it anywhere. So I buy server space by the year and I get a Unique IP, unlimited mail accounts, I can alias them, redirect, forward and set up autoresponders if I want. And I get a control panel to manage all that, including files, permissions, all that stuff.

It didn't cost me a nickel to change my DNS servers at NetSol. I don't know why it would.
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Me too, but you got me wrong... I don't host anything at godaddy either...

For example: just now I have thisdomain.com. There is a feature that godaddy has that allows me to say even though this domain is parked on your servers at godaddy, I want people to be redirected to anotherdomain.com. I can even take it one step further for a couple bucks and mask thisdomain.com, so even though you get redirected to anotherdomain.com, you still see thisdomain.com in your browser's address bar. You can even redirect to directories on anotherdomain.com, so you could have several unique websites with unique domains hosted on the same server under the same domain.

Same with email, even though the domain is parked on go daddy servers, I can have email sent to thisdomain.com get redirected to a different address for free.

It just makes it easier if you don't want to set up a webserver for every domain you want to place a little content on.

of course the DNS changing and all the usual stuff is there as well.
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Yeah, I would have no use for anything like that. When we build a website for someone, that's it. They buy the domain, they buy the hosting. We don't want diddly to do with it after delivery of the site. You know, all the questions people have about why their site is down and they aren't getting mail, and of course, they want you to fix it all for free? No, I don't hunt that dog anymore.
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Yea, I don't screw around with the hosting or email aliasing and masking for clients... it's just personal stuff I use it for and appreciate it. Just saying you get alot of bang for your buck with them, and there really isn't any risk as you seem to imply sometimes.
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A domain name at godaddy = $8.95.
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Ever had a domain sold out from under you? Upload some new content one day, go back to look at it the next and it's some cheap ass search engine? I had it happen a number of times in years past using aftermarket domain resellers and registrars. But never with NetSol, and that's who I'm staying with.
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.COM and .NET root zones are updated every 5 minutes, so as long as your registrar publishes to the root frequently, the domains can be live very quickly. This used to be a twice-per-day publish, but the powers-that-be changed to 5-minute updates about a year ago (I think? has it been that long?)

.ORG has been fast for some time. .BIZ is also very quick.

Other TLDs may still take 24-48 hours.
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Finally, someone who knows what I was talking about.

Ah, there's the answer then. I hadn't heard it had been updated. Thought it was still on the 12 hour cycle.
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New domains and changes to domains may take up to 4-8 hours for .COM and .NET domains and about 24-48 hours for all other domain extensions to become effective. This is due to the number of networks involved, and the fact that those networks are controlled by several different agencies. This delay applies to all domains and all Registrars. Please allow for this delay when planning Web sites or configuring a domain to work with your email.
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