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03-31-2003, 04:39 AM
I already posted at the coffee lounge but it seems people there are just too lazy :D

Basically a project of some kind, no limits, in flash, in photoshop, anything. Could be a big mural site, could be an upcoming internet design community, could be an experimental flash site.

I am open for ideas and invite some designers to help me with it, whatever it may be.

I know this is a big ask but it could be fun, all I need is at least one person to get it started hehe.

If your interested or have any ideas dont be afraid to let me know :)

04-01-2003, 01:45 AM
How about an application with a flash based interface that changes your backgrounds. So it updates them everythime you go online.

Jobs would include programing, supervisor, flash designers and people to submit backgrounds.

04-01-2003, 03:41 AM
sounds interesting.

Are you interested with being involved with something like that SL?

04-01-2003, 05:41 AM
I could do the interface, but not the scripting apart from like, Goto and stuff, and i could help with the backgrounds.

For it to be truley effective tho we need alot of people to add backgrounds and help out with the scripting, so come on guys, if you can help throw up a hand.

04-01-2003, 06:23 AM
ok I will post in coding forums to get the word around.

04-01-2003, 07:08 AM
I'm always in for cool projects and I did start one once, but I never found enough people.
Whatever it will be, count me in! I will help with anything if you want :) (and I'm able to or can learn)


04-01-2003, 08:20 AM
If you need ActionScript (MX) help, I'm your man...

04-01-2003, 08:57 AM
great! looks like we have the makings of something that kinda resembles a team!

Gsolo - actionscripter
Squidlips - Interfacer
Lucremonkey - not determined :D

ok guys If you could all reply to this this post to acknowledge your participation in this, it would be apreciated.

04-01-2003, 10:45 AM
I'll help with then design of either the bgs, interface or w.e. I am also willing to learn some coding. count me in :D

04-01-2003, 12:49 PM
im only 13 but if u av anything i can do i would luv to help :)

04-01-2003, 01:25 PM
confirm me as a team-member :)
What I will do?
I can do a lot and what I can't I will learn. Just tell me what you want and I will figure out how to do it (as flexible as I can be :D).

I have loads of idears. Just tell me if you want some of them and I will work them out (loads of them are in my head). Hopefully we can work some of them out together with the team :)

Ok, I thought about it and realised that I at least had to tell about one idear :D

Ok, I just watched 'True Life' I don't know if anyone of you is into snowboarding, but it's a snowboard video with the Forum team. I'm not a snowboarder myself (die-hard skiing dude (will learn to snowboard one day ;)), but I like these sort of videos. Not only the content of the tape is great, but the way things are made visual (the stuff that was made beside the shooting of the action) is great! The whole video is 290MB, but I will cut out some parts and show it somewhere this week to show you what I mean.
I think that after seeing this my idear of how to present whatever we will make will be clear :)
About music:
I'm a music-addict. Not only the main-stream stuff but also less common and known stuff. Apart from music from people like Amon Tobin, Hybrid and Felix Da housecat I'm into all sorts of music. Keywords are: Hip-Hop, Dance, UK (Garage), Drum and Bass and loads more. I think that whatever we will make, no website is perfect without music. I think that it will be cool to add loads of music and I don't mean 10 sec. loops, but full mixes. How we will deal with webspace? We will figure something out ;)

I would also like it when we try to be different. Normal websites use HTML textparts with images and some Flash for the intro or for the menu.
What I would like to create?
I would not only like to try and make stuff that might take some work, but will give a cool effect in the end.
Instead of only using HTML, pictures and Flash; why don't we try to use whatever we need to make our idears look exactly like we want?
What kind of programms am I thinking of?
Well, apart from the normal web-tools let's try and use stuff like Maya. Stuff that are used to create the Hollywood looking stuff. I don't know if we can get people who are good in Maya. I'm starting to learn it, but I'm sure we can find some people.

Are my idears too mutch?
I always like to come up with great idears at first and then figure out how I can create what I want. Please tell me if this is a way of working in which all of you can work. I think it will be good since this way you actually think of what you want and after that think of how you will do it instead of thinking what you can do with what know. Using the last way of working tends to give less cool idears then the first one.

Well, tell me what you think :)


P.S. let's introduce myself:
| Real name: Maarten de Groot
| Location: Amsterdam, Holland
| Age: 18
| Current occupation: Commercial Economics Student, but will change to Interactive Media ;)
| Computer: 2.8 Ghz, 512 RDRAM, ATI Radeon 9700 PRO, 17" Hi-res TFT, so I can do anything with it, no limits here
| Internet: Broadband
(max download: 265KB/sec. max upload: 16 KB/sec. ), also no limits here

P.P.S. I could also ask a friend of mine who is a great hip-hop DJ. Maybe we could get his help. I also know a couple who other people who might help.

04-02-2003, 02:01 PM
okay, so is the rest still interested???

04-03-2003, 02:34 PM
ok yeah im up for this, should be cool, im
pretty good with flash, most aspects, photoshop and also good with mixing, i make my onw beats..

04-03-2003, 09:38 PM
good to go:yarr:

04-04-2003, 03:40 AM
So just to clarify, its a flash based application that changes your background when you log on to the internet? or are we going with a different idea?

04-04-2003, 04:48 AM
Well, my idear is to make it a way bigger project.
I like the background idear and it would be really cool to inclube, but why not make the project bigger.
A whole website, community whatever we want. And this background flash application is one of the cool things we have to offer! :)

Saint Benedetta
04-04-2003, 08:21 AM
I'm keeping tabs on this thread cos I'm kinda interested. If you want to know some of the stuff I do (mainly images) go to my dev - http://aztecrose.deviantart.com/


04-04-2003, 11:20 PM
yeah I was thinking more of a website/community as well...It's best to really define what we are gonna do before we start hehe. And a name as well...any ideas ? =D

04-05-2003, 03:45 AM
Ok, let me write some stuff down... will post it today

I'm working on it, will also post some movies with it to show some effects I like


P.S. Saint: I watched your dev and you've got a cool style! I hope that you will also help in this project. Should be cool to work together with a person who you also battled ;)

04-06-2003, 06:51 AM
Ok, here it is (little late because I had a lot to do :()
Presentation SWF (http://members.lycos.nl/lucremonkey/Presentation.swf)
I also have a zipped .exe, but my host (free) doesn't alow linkage to downloadable stuff, so you'll have to watch this one (also works when you not have the standalone Flashplayer, just open in a browser and the flash plugin reads it)

Well, enjoy! :)


04-06-2003, 08:09 AM
ok guys, we have begun!

We need firstly:


We then need:

-Flash Desingers
- "" Developers (actionscript)
-Html (i'm pretty sure everyone has a basic - advanced knowledge of html)
-XML developer
-Maya designers (essential if we are going to have help sections but I dont see why we need them for the site design itself)
-Photoshop experts/enthusiasts

Lucremonkey and I will head the team and assign jobs to those who volunteer.

If anyone can provide free hosting with php/mysql enabled it would be much aprreciated. This will be non-profit and loads of fun/chance to develop your own skills and be part of the biger picture. Please reply to this message with what job you would like to be involved with and I will PM/email you with a reply.

thanks for listening to my ramble

04-06-2003, 08:16 AM
Flash Developer here. If we can get a host that uses ColdFusion I can do that to. I know one that charges $8 per month. I also can design XML for Flash interaction. I'm pretty good with Illustrator, Acrobat, Fireworks, Dreamweaver etc...


04-06-2003, 08:46 AM
So far we got:

-Flash Desingers: Lucremonkey, Bvgroote, Disorda, Squidlips
- "" Developers (actionscript) Gsolo
-Html (i'm pretty sure everyone has a basic - advanced knowledge of html)
-XML developer Gsolo
-Maya designers (essential if we are going to have help sections but I dont see why we need them for the site design itself)
-Photoshop experts/enthusiasts Squidlips, Saint, Bvgroote, aznFilipinezian

Let me know if you want out/in in either area

04-06-2003, 11:58 AM
can i help out with the flash too? i want to get my hands dirty in this one :D

04-06-2003, 12:05 PM
Yeah, we have started! :)

Okay, here are my comments:

Team 'management':
I'm fine with running the team together bvgroote if everybody else agrees.

My place in the team:
I can actually do a bit of everything I meantioned, so I will just help where help is needed :)
(The Maya part was only for the help sections :), but I think it's cool to add it since I haven't seen a lot of sites with Flash, Photoshop and Maya together)

My host is free and supports PHP + MySQL, but also has a banner that shows up on a daily basis. This banner can be clicked away and isn't really anoying and we could even make it go away with a little bit of code (not perfectly legal, but so aren't a lot of things).
I don't think free hosting with Coldfusion is offered anywhere on the web (it's even hard to find a free one with PHP + MySQL), but I do know that Coldfusion can do loads of cool stuff! The idear is paying for a host is fine by me since in the end every member only pays $1 per month or something. The only thing is that I don't know if everyone else things about it like this and how we wuold pay, but I'm sure we will figure something out.

I have loads of idears, but I don't really mind what it will be as long as it's cool and different from the other web-community's :)

Well, I don't have anything else to say on this point, I will see all your replies and when everything is settled we can start on the project :)

Please have loads of fun and try and help eachother where needed since learning from eachother is really handy :)


04-06-2003, 09:00 PM
So far we got:

-Flash Desingers: Lucremonkey, Bvgroote, Disorda, Squidlips, aznFilipinezian
- "" Developers (actionscript) Gsolo
-Html (i'm pretty sure everyone has a basic - advanced knowledge of html)
-XML developer Gsolo
-Maya designers (essential if we are going to have help sections but I dont see why we need them for the site design itself)
-Photoshop experts/enthusiasts Squidlips, Saint, Bvgroote, aznFilipinezian

Let me know if you want out/in in either area

04-06-2003, 09:34 PM
now to think of a name or URL that we can use...any ideas?

04-07-2003, 08:40 AM
so this is going to be a community thing?

04-07-2003, 10:14 AM
yup hopefully

04-09-2003, 02:52 AM
Sorry for not replying, but I was really busy :(
About the name: I think we need to figure out how the feel of the website will be, I think a sort of windows feel will be cool, but if anyone has another idear; please tell us! :)
When we know what the look and feel will be, we will you choose a name that fits it

04-09-2003, 05:43 AM
hmmm ok now color scheme.

I always preferred a nice neutral grey or even white for the background. Mainly because its then very flexible to choose the other colours.

Then its just a matter of choosing the other colors that will be used for highlights etc.

04-09-2003, 10:34 AM
Are we doing the application to share backgrounds and sound loops etc.?

04-09-2003, 01:14 PM
I would love the neutral grey or white!

I think it will also be an app for the exchange of backgrounds and/or soundloods, but that will only be a part of the project.

Can anybody make a sort of 'dummy' for what I should look like?
I can also make it, but I'm a bit busy so if anyone else want to :)

04-13-2003, 09:57 AM
if you need another member, i'm up for it.


Flash, Pshop, HTML, DHTML/Javascript, CSS, php/MySQL

Logo Design (animated and static), minimal interface design

most importantly: brainstorming and copy editing (the latter because i noticed in the flash presentation one glaring mistake: ideaR)

hope to hear from you all.

04-13-2003, 11:27 AM
Sorry about the mistake :) I'm Dutch, but not bad in English. This presentation was made in 10 minutes however, so some bad spelling can occur :(

BTW, how is eveybody else doing? I never heard anything back since my post :(

04-13-2003, 08:14 PM
ok great epic.

I think we should organise to meet somewhere online to discuss where to start.

Lucre, epic, and anyone else that can...does anyone have any ideas where we could talk,discuss and organise? even msn or something...chat room?

Then I can set a time

Saint Benedetta
04-13-2003, 08:33 PM
Meet in some sort of forum - perhaps Fla****, Revo7, We-are-Webmasters, something like that, or our own.

Or in some sort of chatroom. Bvgroote, I'm currently online in MSN -
bny_aztec (in hotmail). I also have Yahoo too :)

04-13-2003, 09:07 PM
I'm not at home atm so can't go on msn :D

the only problem here is that we need immediate contacts of all members and we dont have it..

my msn is fourfoot_ben@hotmail.com if you need

04-13-2003, 09:38 PM
msn chat room or i can set up a irc channel somewhere (i assume you all know how to use irc).

someone contact me at your convenience (MSN: aragorn@epicforum.com, AIM: WashSqSquirrel)

PS: call me aragorn or ara :-)

04-13-2003, 09:48 PM
name the time and the place ;)

Saint Benedetta
04-14-2003, 02:09 AM
It would be pretty hard because of the issue of timezones.

I'll add all the e-mails into my list... it would be better if we have some sort of forum or something like that.

04-14-2003, 02:21 AM
hmm ok...well lets just do it now...arent you from brissy SB?

I'm from perth so we got 3 hours difference...hmmmm

Saint Benedetta
04-14-2003, 02:31 AM
Toowoomba, but close enough :)

04-14-2003, 04:31 AM
I will add everyone to my MSN and we should go with our own forum (anyone any idears?).

I will be at home around 16:00 (GMT +1:00)

04-14-2003, 04:35 AM
adding you guys now...yeah thats a good idea actually, setting up a temporary forum to discuss stuff.

04-14-2003, 07:29 AM

it's an old board that a few friends of mine use. i haven't worked on it forever and i plan to expand it to a portal site in may. just register and send me an email or MSN (aragorn@epicforum.com) and I will set you into the Consortium (temp name :-P) group so you can view the board.

This is just a temporary measure until we all can meet up together.

04-14-2003, 11:41 AM
Ok, registered! Also sended you an e-mail :) Can you please put me in the group? thanks!


04-15-2003, 08:03 AM
bvgroote, Lucre added. come on people lets get a move on. we have started discussion

04-15-2003, 09:01 AM
<-- msn on left

I'm available after 3 EDT on mon, wed, fri. after 5:30 on tuesday & thursday. All day sat and sun.

04-15-2003, 09:56 AM
<---aim: Aznfilipinezian
<---hotmail: Aznfilipinezian@hotmail.com

no msn :( where shall we meet?

04-15-2003, 07:44 PM
I'm willing to add some grease to the machine... if you want me that is...

Skills include - Flash (intermediate), Photoshop (intermediate), Indesign (intermediate - creating a nice funky statement of intent in PDF?) copywriting (advanced) and proofreading (10 years experience in US and international English), and loadsa gusto ;)

Basically looking to lend a hand and learn as much as I can.

I'll register at the forum once I have the green light from the group.



04-15-2003, 09:11 PM
look up a few posts for my oldschool board site. and then send me an email at your leisure.

04-16-2003, 09:02 AM
Registered - small issue with the email though, I'll have one through to you shortly.


04-17-2003, 04:10 AM
Ok great!

can't seem to find the topic on our site

04-17-2003, 04:19 AM
Hey bvgroote I saw you on the internet, but you didn't seem to get who I was... :(

When You see a guy called |Maarten|<something else here>| it's me. My e-mail is m_uit_ouderkerk@hotmail.com

Maybe this will make things a bit more clear :)

04-17-2003, 02:29 PM
Bvgroote, click here (http://epicforum.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=33) to find the Consortium board - I think we all need to get this shebang off the ground... :)

Email Aragorn if the link doesn't work


04-17-2003, 03:24 PM
Too much, talk, not enough doing


*Cracks whip*

<--"FK's Slave Driver"

04-17-2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by MrChuckles
Bvgroote, click here (http://epicforum.com/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=33) to find the Consortium board - I think we all need to get this shebang off the ground... :)
The forum you selected does not exist

04-17-2003, 04:13 PM
Damn & blast it all to hell - click
here (http://epicforum.com/phpBB2/) and if you have registered & emailed Aragorn with your username you should be able to view the forum.

Well it worked for me... :rolleyes:

04-18-2003, 08:08 AM
solo, the reason that the link was not working is because the Consortium forum is private to group members only. If you would like to be added to the group list after you register, you must contact me directly (is it just me or do i sound like a broken record)

I have added you to the group list as I just found your user id.

discussion has already begun so those who haven't gotten to it yet should hurry up.

04-18-2003, 11:16 AM
I'm on vacation for 3 days now, so I won't be available untill sunday.
Will be 100% available from sunday though ;)

04-26-2003, 02:02 PM
Online Live Chat:


April 27, 2003 -- 1AM GMT

Everyone welcome.

04-27-2003, 12:25 AM
I couldnt get to it on time because it was like 9:00 am and I was elsewhere, Can i suggest going there a diff time...maybe same time tomorrow? *puts alarm on*

04-27-2003, 03:01 AM
I was also somewhere else and didn't read your post/mail untill after 1AM :( Maybe we could do it some other time?

04-27-2003, 11:11 AM
sure i will be there at the same time again today.

05-01-2003, 09:42 PM
someone just contact me via aim: aznfilipinezian

i always miss these things. thanks

05-07-2003, 03:40 PM
Are you guys still looking for help? If so, let me know.
< skills....photoshop, illustrator, dreamweaver, flash, >

Also, I read a thread that you may need a host. I spoke with a company that I deal with ( www.aihost.com )and told them about the project. they offered to provide free hosting as long as we would add "hosting by aihost.com" or a banner ad.
What do you think?


05-09-2003, 10:09 PM
i am deep in finals so i will not be available for a few days. on the 15th after i come back from seeing the matrix, i will begin work on the site itself. if anyone is still interested at that time, we welcome the help.

05-10-2003, 12:09 AM
welcome aboard!