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ctranter
09-07-2005, 09:53 AM
I just cant decide which of these I prefer. Any comments welcome! I find quite often i have a colour and black and white version both of which I like.


http://static.flickr.com/28/41137387_a85a3f153f_o.jpg
colour?



or



http://static.flickr.com/31/41137386_b38953ce7e_o.jpg
B&W

Also what methods do people use for black and white conversion?

WannaBe_80z
09-07-2005, 10:27 AM
I really like the b&w more. Not really sure it just sticks out a lot more then the color one.

What did you use to convert it?

ctranter
09-07-2005, 10:31 AM
I just used the hue/saturation command in phsop and then played with the levels.

skate342
09-07-2005, 12:32 PM
Bw

robbmcaulay
09-07-2005, 12:35 PM
Black and white, love the contrast!

And loving the signatures on the photos ;)

nordberg
09-07-2005, 01:08 PM
i like the b&w better for sure.

i just use hue/saturation in photoshop when going to b&w.
is there another way that's better?

WannaBe_80z
09-07-2005, 01:09 PM
Yeah I am digging the signature too, I need to come up with something to put on mine.

WannaBe_80z
09-07-2005, 01:12 PM
i just say image>Adjustment>Desaturate.

But just going to the hue/saturation is easier so I can just desaturate and then play with the brightness.

thanks.

anyone use curves?

ctranter
09-07-2005, 01:21 PM
I think there are ways of doing it with the digfferent colour channels or something but I wasnt sure. I must admit i just use levels, curves looks to complicated :p

EVPohovich
09-07-2005, 02:04 PM
B&W - very nice ct.

admedia
09-07-2005, 02:19 PM
Sometimes I go:
grayscale->duotone->play with curves->rgb (or cmyk depending on the job)

I think the b/w has the better immediate impact, but I like the softness and colors of the swan? in the color.

Bobalouy
09-07-2005, 04:40 PM
I love how the swan/goose stands out on the BW. But the blue-ish/grey water goes great with his feathers. So I guess Im not much help cause I like them both.

ctrl+shift+U = Desaturate

ctranter
09-07-2005, 05:36 PM
Thanks everyone, I do think the b&w one has a bit more punch to it.

juvenile swan btw.

carly1979
09-08-2005, 03:57 AM
great photo :) i love the ripples/ reflections in the water. and the texture of the feathers. very cool. and yeah i like both versions, but do agree that the b&w is more .....striking.

tonytryout
09-08-2005, 08:45 AM
b+w for me -- somehow it seems to have more "ooomph" than the colour one.

adamcrohill
09-08-2005, 10:20 AM
I think there are ways of doing it with the digfferent colour channels or something but I wasnt sure. I must admit i just use levels, curves looks to complicated :p


thats what I use (channels) - by removing the channels to leave just one (say the red channel) gives a totally different feel to the greyscale image than say if you left just the green channel.

here is a pic i put together as an e.g.


the top pic is just the red channel, the blacks are clearly deeper in this format. The other two have come out looking similar to each other - but you can see that the blue channel looks a little more washed out and the highlights on the tyre wall text have come out a touch lighter.

depending on the image depends on which channel is best to pick - I think this is a better starting point than just say "de-saturating" as the result of this can often look a little flat.
.....just my humble opinion....

by the way - I love the water on the black and white one ctranter, it almost looks as though its been "burnt in" a bit more than the colour version. Im a big fan of b&w photography.

clicky2
09-08-2005, 10:36 AM
When I want to convert to b&w I do the following:

1) Duplicate my photo on a layer above it
2) Add a Hue/Saturation adjustment layer above both
3) Play around with blending modes and opacity of that duplicated copy as well as the adjustment layer until I get the results I like
4) When all is well, I'll flatten then use dodge/burn tools to touch up. Often times I'll keep two separate files of this ... one with the layerd file pre-touch up, one flattened and touched up. That way I still have my original picture and if I need to go back and adjust it further I can.

I'm pretty much a non-destructive, layer mongering whore. I've had some photos I've touched up that end up being 10+ layers before I'm satisfied with the final results. Don't do it with every photo, but if it's something I know I'll make a large print of or will include in a print design I'll spend that extra time to get it perfect and give me the option to make adjustments down the road.

swak
09-09-2005, 09:07 AM
there's an easy to use converter for B&W in photoshop. all you need to do is go to the menu and do convert to grayscale. i forget what the menu it is in, however it's one of the ones next to the file menu.

WannaBe_80z
09-09-2005, 09:46 AM
there's an easy to use converter for B&W in photoshop. all you need to do is go to the menu and do convert to grayscale. i forget what the menu it is in, however it's one of the ones next to the file menu.


Image>Mode>Greyscale

Bobalouy
09-09-2005, 02:28 PM
stumbled across this today - Photoshop User Tutorial on B&W
http://www.photoshopuser.com/landscape/text.html

WannaBe_80z
09-09-2005, 02:44 PM
Awesome, Thanks for the link.

EVPohovich
09-09-2005, 03:07 PM
stumbled across this today - Photoshop User Tutorial on B&W
http://www.photoshopuser.com/landscape/text.htmladded to the resource list

linky (http://flashkit.com/board/showthread.php?p=3387801#post3387801)