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WannaBe_80z
09-15-2005, 01:55 AM
Not to copy Aversion or anything. But I am really interested in getting into portrait shots like he does. Interesting people he meets and such.

Hopefully getting my 20D next week...FINALLY!

Alright so for my photojournalism class we had to take formal and non formal shots of someone we knew and then some of a complete stranger.

This is the stranger formal looking at the camera portrait.

http://static.flickr.com/25/43457180_4939cc437c_o.jpg

What do you think? Critique all you want.

tonytryout
09-15-2005, 05:37 AM
The posture of that girl, the lighting and the the focus being on her face -- good stuff.

There is too much background, IMHO. It might have been nice have her fill the photo a bit more.

Also there is something about her eyes.... might be worth getting a bit closer to bring her eyes out.

Apart from that, it is a good pic. :thumbsup: :)

WannaBe_80z
09-15-2005, 09:13 AM
Yeah I didn't crop the picture or anything. So I could take out some off the sides. Thanks, keep em coming.

nordberg
09-15-2005, 10:06 AM
i would have gotten more at eye-level rather than angling down.

WannaBe_80z
09-15-2005, 01:00 PM
good point.

whispers
09-15-2005, 03:34 PM
sorry..but it doesnt "do" anything for me.. I find nothing "dramatic" about the angle of the pose/picture..... the color doesnt "pop" for me... seems liek an ordinary pic.

Was there a GOAL behind the project WannaBe? or just go grab the shots?

WannaBe_80z
09-15-2005, 03:48 PM
Just to get portraits.

tonytryout
09-15-2005, 04:07 PM
sorry..but it doesnt "do" anything for me.. I find nothing "dramatic" about the angle of the pose/picture..... the color doesnt "pop" for me... seems liek an ordinary pic.

Was there a GOAL behind the project WannaBe? or just go grab the shots?

because the background was too overpowering? I agree with you and imo, thought it would be a lot more dramatic if the photographer got closer to the subject.

whispers
09-15-2005, 05:17 PM
closer wold help...even a lower (looking up) giving a sense of "power" or something.....maybe even in a settign where the face casts shadows upon itself...for some "life"..

actually looking again..it MAY be the BG....or the fact that her skin complextion is "dull" and blends into the Bg as well..

tonytryout
09-16-2005, 06:59 AM
yeah, you could be right about the blending bit of her face into the background.

EVPohovich
09-16-2005, 12:46 PM
I think she just doesn't stand out enough. Her features are either plain in real life (sorry, I call it like I see it) or they got washed out in the capture. I have ask, why so much background?

I'd like to see you work on this image a little.....not retake it, rework it. If you make her the focus of the image and play a little with some bits this will look a lot better.

Something like this only with better resolution:
http://providersweb.safepages.com/images/EzRemix.jpg

WannaBe_80z
09-16-2005, 03:25 PM
haha, yeah her name is Molly and I was walking around campus looking for people to take the random stranger shot of and saw her...she is really pale in real life.

I will see what I can come up with.

aversion
09-16-2005, 05:52 PM
I honestly don't think it matters about the technical aspects of a portrait as much as the emotional content. This is about representing the person, not just the way they look, but more than that, and you have to shoot appropriately. This shot was taken by a friend with a camera that cost less than $10.

http://static.flickr.com/21/31133508_cfc00197e2.jpg
by Susan (http://outafocus.my-expressions.com/)

I'm not a fan of studio type portraits and all the 'rules' that go along with them, for the crop below I didn't remove the blemishes and lines from her face.

http://rigent.com/junk/wannabe.jpg

You have to be aware of what you're doing though, you have to have in mind why you shot the portrait the way you did, you should have an intuition about what the image will look like, you should know whether you'll crop it or not, whether you want it to be b&w. You should think about depth of field, not just because it's nice to blur the bg on portraits, but because the way that person sits within the frame and the enviroment, their relationship to it all, portrays something about the person they are... or at least your interpretation of that.

You need to practice to get all this I think, you can't just go up to people and point the camera at them and click the shutter. You're relying on pot luck then. If you approach someone do so because you have a feeling about them, some empathy or intuition, talk to them, hone your impression and mentally make the portrait before you shoot.

I've looked at a few portraiture books and very rarely if at all do they go beyond the technical and mechanical aspects of the art, I guess they feel like their readers all want to be pros, airbrushing out laugh lines for a client.

I'd prefer BW for this shot :)

http://rigent.com/junk/wannabe_bw.jpg

WannaBe_80z
09-16-2005, 09:49 PM
Thanks a lot for all the input.

Did you boost the contrast to get it that black? When I turned it to gray scale it seemed so bland. And way more blemishes showed up.

aversion
09-17-2005, 08:01 AM
Use the channel mixer.