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Thanks, but it was that I wasn't sending the \0 in my script :P lol.
But I am having another problem. When I send lots of data, rapidly to the flash socket, some of it is not sending until something else happens, like I close the socket, or move the character again. How do I properly end the send line? (\n or whatever, for example)
Just a guess, but you might need to flush the stream/connection. You ought to be flushing after every completed message.
I'll give that a try.
Thanks. Oh, by the way, anyone know why I can't connect when I'm online, but it works fine when I use localhost on my local pc? the listening initiates fine, but it just doesnt connect. i heard about some security issues with flash, could this be related? the server is at the same path as the flash file.
MySocket.Connect("myhost.com",3982) - just says it cant connect
MySocket.Connect("www.myhost.com",3982) - nothing at all
MySocket.Connect("http://www.myhost.com",3982) - nothing at all
If you are certain the server is running on your remote host then run the client in the stand-alone flash player. If it works there, you are hitting security issues. Otherwise it's something else (firewall, server broken, etc.)
Webgeek, what do you mean by this? How do I "flush" the stream/connection?Quote:
Originally posted by webgeek
Just a guess, but you might need to flush the stream/connection. You ought to be flushing after every completed message.
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One more question, what is flushing, and what does it do?
*edit*
- Mike
$socket->autoflush(1);Quote:
Originally posted by webgeek
If you are certain the server is running on your remote host then run the client in the stand-alone flash player. If it works there, you are hitting security issues. Otherwise it's something else (firewall, server broken, etc.)
I think johno18 quoted the wrong message from me :)
MikeRoGT: Most underlying socket implementations queue up data to be sent in buffers. When you "flush" the buffer, you are telling the socket to drain and send all it's data. In general, you want to do this when a message has finished being created by the server. The specific details can change depending on the socket implementation you are using. For instance: non-blocking IO techniques look a bit different then their counterparts.
Have fun!
lol. im used 2 the quote being at the top of the message. sorryQuote:
Originally posted by webgeek
I think johno18 quoted the wrong message from me :)
MikeRoGT: Most underlying socket implementations queue up data to be sent in buffers. When you "flush" the buffer, you are telling the socket to drain and send all it's data. In general, you want to do this when a message has finished being created by the server. The specific details can change depending on the socket implementation you are using. For instance: non-blocking IO techniques look a bit different then their counterparts.
Have fun!
Hey Jobe,Quote:
Originally posted by jobemjobem
Hi M@dster,
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Oregan Server
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I really don't have much to say about this one. All I can do is point out a few things:
1) This is a free open-source server.
2) As a free open-source server, you pay nothing but at the same time you should expect to get no support or guarantees in return. You should consider yourself warned that if you find a hideous bug after you have launched your kick-ass application, you might be up a creek.
3) Conclusion If you are a Java guru and are familiar with server development, then this could be a dream come true.
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I am a bit of a Java hacker and I am looking for more information about this product before I make a decision as to which server I am going to use in my game. Do you have a link for this project? I have looked over all those described above execept this one.
Thank you for your help.
As Jobe and I are the developers of ElectroServer, I don't think we will be in a position to give you much information about a competitors product. With that said, I do want to mention that ElectroServer has an extensive set of capabilities accessible from Java (everything Actionscript plugins can do plus a LOT more). Feel free to let me know if you have any questions. Thanks!
Hello Michael,
As I mentioned I am still looking at each server so I wouldn't have much questions until I start doing indepth research. Right now I am focusing on getting a list of what are my options before moving on. You website already answers all of my initial questions. I must say that I am impressed with E3.
If you do have information about Oregan Server, I ask you to share. If my funding falls through ( its a non-profit project ) then Oregan Server is going to be the only option that I have apart from writing one myself which I anticipate would be more annoying than difficult.
Thank you for your help.
-t
Hey, new poster:D
I was wondering if there is any possible way to make a poker-table game for around 8 people. If anyone has one they've seen or any tips to build one, can you post or e-mail me. Thanks.
hengjack: I'm glad to hear that you like the server. If it helps, we have discounts available for educational and non-profit use. Feel free to contact Jobe or I for more information.
Ballaholic: What you are describing is a turn-based game. This is pretty straight-forward. To keep it secure, you will want all the card dealing and scoring logic to occur on the server rather then on any of the clients. We have several articles/details that talk about this in detail on our site at http://www.electro-server.com Feel free to also contact either Jobe or I for more information. Thanks!
Iv actually written a desent socket server in flash useing phpsockets
If you guys are intrested in you can find it here:
http://www.avataur.com/server.txt
Iv been haveing problems with it dieing, and havent beenable find the bugs.
I use simpleXML in PHP 5 in the live version of that to handle xml.
I've started experimenting with creating my own socket servers using Java, and I find the polling-vs.-socket argument ironic because all the Java examples I've seen use polling on the SERVER side. While polling on the client side leads to lower performance (low update frequency), polling on the server can eat up your CPU while effectively doing nothing.
Ok, I'm probably not being clear about this, but most Java examples tend to have a while(true) or equivalent section which just repeatedly checks the state of the socket buffer, waiting for data. This method works, but will eat up 25% of my CPU usage even though my server activity is completely idle. On principle alone, this is unacceptable. I'd like to write (or use) a socket server that is completely event-driven (perhaps this is accomplished with Java exceptions?) and will not burn cycles just waiting for something to happen.
How does ElectroServer (or similar product) deal with this? Does anyone have a Java example that doesn't poll the socket? Help! Thanks!!! :)
High-end, scalable socket servers use non-blocking sockets and the java.nio libraries. In a nut shell, nio lets you use a selector object which tells you when there is data to read on a socket. If you register all the sockets for your clients with the selector, you do not need to poll them or dedicate a thread to each (to make a blocking call). Check out this resource (you have to register for free with IBM first)
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerwork...HW02&S_CMP=EDU
Jamesj3k nailed it exactly. ElectroServer uses the Java NIO libraries and a sophisticated callback model. I won't get into detail, but we use a selector thread to read in data as it arrives and then pass that into a thread pool to handle aggregrating messages and determining when messages have completed. Honestly, with all the socket servers out there, I wouldn't bother writing my own. I started ElectroServer back when none really existed and it has simply grown from there. Either way, have fun!
I'm writing one because there are no cheap ones that use NIO and it is a good learning experience. When I finish, I plan to sell mine for very cheap ( ~$50 for unlimited use ).
Whatever makes you happy :)
A word to the wise: Look out for the NIO inconsistencies between platforms. Make damn sure that you start by supporting no JDK/JRE older then 1.4.2. We (Ron Hitchens and I) learned the hard way that there were NIO bugs before then.
Ok, so let's say I take your advice and want to use a pre-built socket engine like yours to run my games. Well I need to be able to re-sell these games to clients, which means potentially re-selling the server-side components of your product. Do you have licensing options for this scenario, and if so, what is the cost?