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I believe Bush actually did say those quotes, though I think comparing him to a Christian Crusader based on those quotes is a real stretch. The US government doesn't invade countries to convert them to Chrisitanity, that is left up to wacko missionaries and people like Ann Coulter.
I'd do Ann Coulter in missonary. At least twice.
watch out for the protruding hip bones...
HAHAHAHAHA.
You bad boy. :D
I wouldn't do Ann Coulter under any circumstances.
man this is like a bad soap. I go away and come back days later and I can pick it right back up where 10 pages ago left off lol.
Why can't we just all get along. ;)
I said "And if" not that "it does"...so then if it's not in the Quran why the Death chants?Quote:
Originally Posted by newhive
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I'm not trynig to impose anything to anybody, I just request to be treated as Human. Someone here talked about "I have the right to be insulted", who gave you that right? I don't want that right. Is it a "right"?
No one has a right to be insulted, what we are talking about here is the reaction by Muslims towards the Cartoons.
To be insulted is one thing but many of those who have marched in Eurpoean countries and the Middle East, and the calling from the mosques is that those who did these things should be put to death.
Not to mention the torching of buildings.
This is what I mean about your beliefs not being above others.
Yes but does an insult merit Killing some one? I mean it's hardly putting a gun to your head and threatening you is it?Quote:
What's right to me is to fight back who ever fights me, if anyone insulted me I have the option of returning back or forgiving.
I don't have a problem with understanding the example, it's just that it dosent fit.Quote:
You understand it that way, good, you don't, your problem.
When did I do that? Read my post reply to you properly......but now that you mentioned it, there seems to be a hell of a lot of those things these days done in the name of Islam.Quote:
And don't try to tell thing I clarified earlier it's NOT Islamic, like killing, bombing, terrorism. I just talked about boycott.
Ok can you answer me a question? is it allright to use violence ( or to Kill some one) when they insult or blasphemes ( not you but ) your Prophet?
We all have free will, and can use it or abuse it, but it dosen't mean we have the right to kill for *any* reason, lives don't belong to us to take.Quote:
True, but when someone holds a gun to a brain of another and shoot (without having any right to), the other one dies (meaning Allah takes his soul). And that's what bothers.
Well I guess if it's good for Muslims to do it, why not Church bells for the Christians?...that's fair isn't it?Quote:
It does happen, you're just far to see it.
iTony
ehem ehem!!
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I'd do her for two major reasons... I'm like the worst thing that could happen to her career and I know she's into some heavy duty kink. We're talking about american flag ball gags and cat o' nine tails with Clinton mistresses names on each tassle. Perhaps some Enron nipple clamps and a fake shroud of Turin, throw in some rose petals and some other stuff, she's a freak. A wide-eyed freak. You know it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ask The Geezer
Der Kinkmeister has spoken.
Hmmm, maybe I was mistaken. Sounds like my kind of woman.
I guess when Pigs start to fly eh?Quote:
"We would also urge people who are criticizing these cartoons to speak out forcefully against all forms of hate speech, including cartoons and articles throughout parts of the Arab world, which frequently espouse anti-Semitic and anti-Christian views," McClellan told reporters....
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iTony
Best read in a long time. Good find Swampy.
So, they just haven't caught up, the problem is that now they dont just have swords and spears.
iTony
Iran counteracts with Holocaust cartoons:
Watch the Jews go on the rampage like the wild monkey scenes we are witnessing at the moment..:rolleyes:...sure, cause every one acts like barbarians when they are insulted.Quote:
Iran’s biggest-selling newspaper has chosen to tackle the West’s ideals of “freedom of expression” by launching a competition to find the 12 “best” cartoons about the Holocaust, the Associated French Press reported on Monday.
Farid Mortazavi, graphics editor for Tehran’s Hamshahri newspaper, said that the deliberately inflammatory contest would test out how committed Europeans were to the concept freedom of expression.
“The Western papers printed these sacrilegious cartoons on the pretext of freedom of expression, so let’s see if they mean what they say and also print these Holocaust cartoons,” he said.
Iran has withdrawn its ambassador to Denmark and has said it plans to review trade ties with all countries where the cartoons were published.
What's to bet that they will get angrier when they get no reaction.
iTonyHere is the link to the story
The thing you have to take into account is the social demographic of the people rioting. In Europe these are the poor, disillusioned youth. They have no other means to express their discontent at society so they have channelled it through these protests on this issue.
The extreme right are taking advantage by handing out inflammatory banners and placards – recent protests in London were seen holding banners advocating suicide bombings, beheadings etc. The evidence suggests that they were all written by the same small group and handed out to the crowd. Hitler used these methods to inflame mobs at demonstrations, Soccer hooligans do the same. The poll tax demonstrations in the 1980’s ended in riot, the anti globalization protests are trouble hotspots. Are these all called by muslims? Nope they are cause by a small hard core of trouble makers that instill a mob mentality on the protest as a whole.
Even Jewish people riot!!!OMG
Definetly a huge factor in Europe, but in the middle east I think it is much deeper than that there it is academicly intsitutionalised.Quote:
Originally Posted by swampy
I read ( Im looking for the link) that the cartoons were actualy published in Middle East countries with a few more derogatory ones added.
The crazy thing is that the cartoons in Denmark were actualy published first in September last year.
iTony
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Originally Posted by XU1
Ok so now they just look like complete hypocrits. If the Iranian government is going to allow the same crap to be printed there, then I assume the protests can stop now?
You know what screw it, I applaud them. At least we can see that free press is working in Iran. I welcome them to the 18th century.
Now we just need to prepare for all the rioting and embassy burning the Jews are going to do tomorrow.
the difference is that the proposals are to present social stereotypes of people of the jewish faith. They are not printing characatures of a Jewish prophet.
They kind of shot themselves in the foot though, because to effectively create a parrallel they would need to print cartoons of Abraham or Moses, They can't do that though because they are also prophets in Islam.
No it's not the same thing you're right, but the intent is obviously to offend those of Jewish faith in whatever way they can.Quote:
Originally Posted by swampy