What do you need from the future KM v4.0 ?

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11-13-2002, 05:27 PM
gorky2

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Originally posted by OwenAus
but Owen...
this is not a new feature !!!
And as KoolMoves gains market dominance (* evil laugh :devil: tomorrow the world! *) and new users, a revamp of the help system. A really comprehensive help with levels for beginners, intermediate, advance, and indexed.

This will save heaps of time and effort in the long term, and will, I am sure, increase upgrades from demo to licenced.

I aggree with Owen a revamp of the help system (not so much change in the help-system since vers. 1.95?!) would be a great time-saver and really helpful for the non-powerusers like me

Gorky
11-13-2002, 06:25 PM
necromanthus

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Originally posted by henkvg
There are so many text effect editors on the market already. A better choise could be if this advanced functionality would be implemented for objects (mc's) as well.

very very true !
;)
11-13-2002, 06:53 PM
mwg

As KM doesn't really provide an easy way of syncing frames with a music score, a couple of possibilities might be helpful even if in the most basic way.

The internal player displays the frame number/name as it is processes but does not, at least as far as I've been able to determine, handle the audio side. Perhaps modifying the internal player to play the audio as well as the video?

The external stand-alone player (browser) or the browser option itself displays the movie and plays any audio. Unfortunately, it does not display any frame information. I'm not sure if displaying the frame number during external/browser playback is possible but perhaps overlaying the frame number on each displayed frame as it plays is?
11-13-2002, 07:11 PM
bridelh

I'm going to sneek another couple in....

The option to embed fonts in dynamic text boxes...
A trace function for simple debug of Actionscript

Hilary

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11-13-2002, 07:49 PM
John U.

more wishes... :eek:

When you edit points, it would be cool if the cursor could sense when it is over a point and you could click-drag that point instead of having to click-select, then drag.

Also, it seems like when drawing free-form shapes, the number of points laid down is 'timer' based, that is, if you draw a line slow you get a lot more points than if you drew the same line fast. If this is correct, then what might be helpful is a way to control the 'timer', or frequency of points plotted.

>Also I think you must improve the EPS/WMF import feature

agreed. less nodes.

John U.
11-13-2002, 07:58 PM
necromanthus

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Originally posted by bridelh
A trace function for simple debug of Actionscript
Hilary

I think that Hilary has some telepathic abilities :p
11-13-2002, 11:17 PM
OwenAus
Here's a small book. And it only covers some parts of 3 of the 108 things I have on my wish list.
- Movie Resize.
  An option to turn off the ability to grab a movie border and resize the movie that way. I can see how this can be useful, but I tend to resize movies when I am trying to grab a cluster of shapes. BTW, when that happens, the movie dimensions often show wierd sizes, eg, 7,891 pixels!
- Plug ins
  A way that people can create their own library items and drop them into the special library folders (in, say, a sub-folder) where they then magically work. At a more advanced level, a way for third-party software to communicate with koolmoves (eg, create 16 frames and slap in these shapes, clips and AS as advised here). This would give quite powerful plug and (create then) play abilities.
- Help
  Additional help.
  Perhaps a glossary or definition of terms. Language is a fantastic way to explain concepts, however the words must make sense. I can remember struggling to find ways to ask questions because I could not find a word or phrase to describe what was desired - or one that would make sense to both myself (newbieTalk) and the gurus (techTalk).
  Perhaps some diagrams to explain how things fit together, eg a hierarchy with relationships between objects like the main move, the frames therein, the movieclips and etc.
  Maybe some Flash Player hints. Like what is resolved and when. For example, is the action script in a frame handled before or after the frame's graphics are displayed, and if tweens are handled before or after that. Even simple things like the fact a pure movie does not tween between the last and first frame when looping.
The next 105, plus details on the first three, are due to be published by Random Press. :)
11-14-2002, 01:37 AM
mmreed

I think the antialiasing with fonts is a biggie... you just dont get the crisp look of a small font with KM as you do in Flash...

The ability to take shapes and cobine them as one... not a group - as one actual shape...or to add to a shape at point intersects...for example... draw a box... then take a line from the top corner out then back to the other corner to form a triangle on top of the box and have this be one shape. did I explain that ok?

a movie library like there is in Flash!!!

AND MOTION SCRIPTS THAT DO NOT RUN ON THIER OWN TIMEFRAME! or the ability to turn that off.
11-14-2002, 07:55 AM
Bob Hartzell

I think the antialiasing with fonts is a biggie... you just dont get the crisp look of a small font with KM as you do in Flash...

-> Are referring to the look in the flash player or in the authoring tool?

AND MOTION SCRIPTS THAT DO NOT RUN ON THIER OWN TIMEFRAME! or the ability to turn that off.

-> Not possible I would think.
11-14-2002, 09:27 AM
mmreed

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Originally posted by Bob Hartzell
I think the antialiasing with fonts is a biggie... you just dont get the crisp look of a small font with KM as you do in Flash...

-> Are referring to the look in the flash player or in the authoring tool?

______> how they look in the player.... if I create the same swf in Flash they appear much more crisp. small fonts seem to blur in KM.

AND MOTION SCRIPTS THAT DO NOT RUN ON THIER OWN TIMEFRAME! or the ability to turn that off.

-> Not possible I would think.

____________> what about the ability to have a gui toggle where it makes the parent movie stop and wait until the motion script is completed before it continues to play?
11-14-2002, 10:31 AM
necromanthus

GOOD news: MARK is alive !
Mark,join us (again) and continue to improve the KM Artwork-Library.
11-14-2002, 10:35 AM
mmreed

Quote:

Originally posted by necromanthus
GOOD news: MARK is alive !
Mark,join us (again) and continue to improve the KM Artwork-Library.

Alive... well maybe slightly coherent.... if not comatose...

Ive been focusing on my primary passion - networking... been working on security certifications and preparing for an intrustion detection exam....

but I try to pop in often...<grin>
11-14-2002, 04:52 PM
weden

What would I like in KM 4

I'm still very new to this program, but since you asked...

I would really like a built-in tool to create customized projectors. I've checked out numerous companies such as ***********, FlashStudio, Flash'N'Pack, SwiffCanvas, and others. The support is crummy for most and they don't all work with KM due to the way the FS Commands work in KM. It's very difficult to build customized projectors for distribution on CD Rom...at least that's been my experience.
11-14-2002, 06:22 PM
necromanthus

Re: What would I like in KM 4

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Originally posted by weden

I would really like a built-in tool to create customized projectors.

Great idea.
I'm sure that BOB is able to implement this feature.
;)
11-14-2002, 07:03 PM
The Action Scripter

The only thing I would LOVE KM to have is the ability to "Correctly" import a SWF, by adding all "0" tweened frames for as long as the SWF lasts, like in Flash MX.

The reason why I want this is because I don't want to use the loadmovie(); command, because it is hard to get it perfectly in time.

And 2, I want it so I can upload it to a site without using the loadmovie(); command.

Thats the only thing I could want, and man do I want it. :p
11-14-2002, 07:47 PM
necromanthus

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Originally posted by The Action Scripter
The only thing I would LOVE KM to have is the ability to "Correctly" import a SWF, by adding all "0" tweened frames for as long as the SWF lasts, like in Flash MX.

"Import SWF as object" & "loadMovie()" are VERY different from "import (SWF,AVI or GIF)" from Flash MX.
For this purpose,Macromedia use a "SWF frames decoder" (something like SWF Scanner) in order to extract all frames from the movie.
However,their algorithm is VERY buggy: can't extract the child-movies frames and sounds.
Are you goin' to steal some shapes from other's movies ? ;)
11-14-2002, 08:27 PM
The Action Scripter

Heh no, Necro, just wanna succesfully add my Swift3D scenes.
11-14-2002, 09:18 PM
johnie

Re: What would I like in KM 4

Quote:

Originally posted by weden
I'm still very new to this program, but since you asked...

I would really like a built-in tool to create customized projectors. I've checked out numerous companies such as ***********, FlashStudio, Flash'N'Pack, SwiffCanvas, and others. The support is crummy for most and they don't all work with KM due to the way the FS Commands work in KM. It's very difficult to build customized projectors for distribution on CD Rom...at least that's been my experience.

They all work with KM. Well after the most current beta does. 3.5 works with SwiftCanvas- Actually V 1.5 did, and Jugglor and well pretty much all of them.

What has happened is this;

KM Implemented FSCommands- It was one of the first 3'rd party tools to do so. The FS Command interface was based on Older Versions of Flash.

When we got AS Bob didn't add FSCommand as an AS but rather left the old implementation. With actionscript the format is thus FSCommand("Command","Argument")
Likewise he never added support for things like %20 or char(20) but rather you have to type the char. In the case of tabs you have to depress the shift key and the Tab key.

FSCommand inside of SWFs has not changed. What has changed is how the MX projector handles FSCommands. It will only allow you to use FSCommand Exec on programs inside a folder marked FSCommands in the same directory as your projector. Likewise they droped support for chr(X) in FSCommands.

SWFStudio and FlashStudio have pretty good support and FlashNPack support is pretty good. SwiffCanvas support is almost non-existant. To be honest the fastest way to get support on these tools is to run up to the Standalone board here at Flashkit.
11-15-2002, 08:07 AM
Bob Hartzell

When we got AS Bob didn't add FSCommand as an AS but rather left the old implementation.

-> Do I need to do this?

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The only thing I would LOVE KM to have is the ability to "Correctly" import a SWF, by adding all "0" tweened frames for as long as the SWF lasts, like in Flash MX.

-> I think what you are asking is that KM import all the shapes from a swf. It is a difficult task. I started to develop that ability but never finished.
11-15-2002, 01:32 PM
weden

Thanks Johnie (I think!)and everybody else also. A little overwhelming for me as a newbie to all of this flash programming. I feel like I could catch on rather quickly if there were some good tutorials on SWFStudio,FlashStudio, and FlashNPack for KoolMoves. I'm just not getting the correct commands and arguments to be able to launch files from these projectors. I will keep on truckin' and trying to learn all of this!

Thanks so much for all of your help.

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