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the asteroids game marmotte showed above caught my attention.. how would one make a pixel picture rotate (I'm assuming multiple pictures for each angle) in a game. How can you convert a horizontal/vertical pixel image to a horizontal image (I'm speaking overhead here). Thanks.
what i did when i was doing something like that is, have rotation as a variable, not the actual _rotation, and inside the clip have a series of frames for all the angles (doesnt have to be 360, just an even amount in all directions), and then have the actions do something like
this.gotoAndStop(rotation/numberOfFrames);
it works out pretty well for car games.
No no no. I know how to make games here. I'm asking how to DRAW rotated pixel images, that are, rotated! I don't know how to do this without distortion.
d'oh sorry :p
if you mean drawing it rotated as in outside of flash (photoshop or whatever you use for graphics), i think its just a matter of redrawing it, or rotating it and then cleaning it up (retracing it)
mmmhh, the invisible and sorta crying little phantoms were so surprising the first time you meet them... "kuiii!!!"Quote:
the creepy short demons in the school
the second sewers with that absolutely awful music was very impressive too...
as Ian424 said, you have to redraw it. simply. that's the annoying part with pixel art games ^^Quote:
How can you convert a horizontal/vertical pixel image to a horizontal image
btw the game evolved a lot. i'll put it online soon. it's a lot more enjoyable than the repetitive*10 omega bird
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omega bird
RCProAm now there was a game! Looking good already marmotte :)
When playing your demo I thought that it could easily be adapted to be a backtothefuture hover board style game, weaving in and out of traffic, jumping over certain things :)
Cool stuff as usual anyway :)
thanks markp ^^
this is a project that is quite interesting... maybe for now it's turning more into a gta-like game, but nothing is sure. i really wish to draw the entire town, but it will take so much time, that's why i'm not sure...
> i'm concentrating with some pixelBoy games, here's one of the latest screenshot; the game is almost finished, and it's rare with me, yay!!!
i tried to work the fade in/out like a real gameboy, it looks great, it even have some intentional "bugs" like the real one...
oh, and lukstr, what are these shrudders all about? ^^
http://board.flashkit.com/board/
Defining statement of "Omega Bird": Most repetitive game ever.
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Defining statement of "Omega Bird": Most repetitive game ever.
hahaha ^^
ehm... yes. almost.
yes,i think so,too.i´wouldn´t have a problem with it if we only worke on this from time to time when all want to do it,sure it would be cooler getting it into a cool state soon.Quote:
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tomsamson
really? houhouuu! i'm pretty sure you are thinking about tile method ^^
... and since creating flash games is a part of my free time (no money involved), so none of my project is never 100% serious.
hope you understand. but i'm very happy with the guys that are willing to help anyway, thanks ^^
well, tell me what you think about the future of this game... yes it could be cool, very cool.
and yep,i´m thinking about a tilebased engine,i think it´ll run fastest.
if we do this,i wouldn´t touch the graphics side,you´re just much better in pixel art than me.
i´d just support you with the needed engine.just tell me the tilesize ,give me a handful tiles and i´ll wip something together.what i liked a lot (if not most) in rock´n´roll racing was the feature to tune your car stepwise,do you want to add that,too?
i´ve got an idea,i´ll try it out and post it shortly (but don´t expect too much,i´ll just modiy blink´s great car a bit ;) )
ok, tom listen:
what about these ideas:
- GTA-like
- crazy taxi-like
here are some suggestions:
i draw the entire town (may be extended later, with some outside hills, ranches, cows parks or whatever). i include all the important things: hospitals, hotels, church, karaoke etc... the point of view will be iso, and tiles probably 32x32. (i have to change completely the graphics, because the point of view will be a little different).
of course, you have the ability to drive all around the city (of course, you car rotate). so a scrolling is needed here.
now: swapDepths. the car must be able to do in front AND behind objects. is that doable for you, in case that team project is accepted?
now: traffic; cars and character may be loaded randomly when the next tile row is attached, and may be removed when they go out of the screen (mmmhhh, in fact it's not that easy, because if you return the sprite will not be here anymore. mmmhhh)
now, what about the ability to leave the car and walk? (maybe it's too long to program for you, but it's also long for me to draw all the sprites)
what are your ideas, tom? race game? GTA game? crazy Taxi game?
or maybe a mix? i'm really looking forward to wander in an entire town ^^
but before, let me draw some graphics, ready to be tiled ^^
oh, thanks for your help and suggestions.
the swapdepths part is no problem,also not setting up a scrolling iso engine in general,getting scrolling fast enough for a gta/rock´n´roll racing like game is a bit trickier,but also managable (i´m comparing to rock´n´roll racing,as i think it is the best comparison because of view etc.)
when doing something like gta,i think crazy taxi is already implemented (i didn´t play that,but from what i heard,you pick up people,bring them to a target point within a certain time and if you made it,get some cash and a new job,right?).
you should decide which game type it should be like,more racing or more gta,i think both can be done pretty good,its just important that you decide first,as it will save us a lot of extra work.
if you decide for a gta like gameplay,we should mimic it as much as possible in terms of placing "random" environment objects like cars and normal passengers: in gta,those are placed in a random manner,and they are stored (in an array,like objecttype,current position,direction etc.) until the player is several blocks away,then they are totally deleted from "knowledge",only very few objects (which are important for the current mission) are stored until the mission is won or lost.
it wouldn´t cause me trouble to code a "leave the car to wander around" feature but that would mean also having to code another feature:making either objects in front of the player semi transparent,or let the character"shine through" as semi transparent shape (or let his outline appear in above objects in front of him).then again,just another managable obstacle which would result in a cool feature fun to look at and play once solved..
at the end,there hasn´t been an iso gta like game before and it´d surely rock badly,then again,this project seems to grow rapidly,as our ideas for it do,so i´d suggest starting with a "basic" racing scene (or maybe mission if it should be a gta like game),so we already have a fun demo and if we´re then still up to it,enhance it with more different missions for the player.
as i said earlier,decide which game type you want (more lap based racing or gta like missions/city exploring),just send me some car and tile graphics and i´ll wip the engine up and send it back to you,so we can think furhter.
you still don´t have a window pc at hand,do you?
(so i could implement your graphics into my editor and you could quickly do maps/tracks)
before reading your last post, i thought about ´the feature to modify/upgrade your car in rock´n´roll racing and made this hybrid of a tracked vehicle out of blink´s car.i know,its a pitty what i turned the awesome car into and i´m sure blink or you would do a much better job on that,but i still think the idea of upgrading cras would be fun :)
http://www.geocities.com/ugur112/kazooweecar.jpg
ok, tom. you are terrific. really!
let me think about the game concept (your crazy taxi description is correct), but i don't think a race game is a good idea. i like so much more the liberty you have when you drive in a city instead of being blocked in a short road, racing against opponents. well , just let me think about it a little bit more ^^ having said that, i reckon that "great 10 miles rally" (race game, very cool) is also a great game... mhhhh.
also, i don't want you to have an incredible amount of work with the engine... but it seems you gave me the "permission" to imagine a very complete and complex game ^^
about PC, no, i'm still mac; i also have virtual PC installed, but i'm not really using it...
anyway, tom, thanks for your proposition, i'll think seriously about that, and i'll probably talk again with you about it.
just let me draw some environments, houses, buildings etc, and if i'm satisfied with it, then let's roll!
simpler; restrict these areas. but it depends on the configuration of the map... the problem is the same with the car, if you drive behind a building. we have to think about that proble, maybe we simply have to configure the map, placing obstacles for example not allowing you to go there... i don't know. the _alpha idea is very good, unfortunately not with flash :-(Quote:
making either objects in front of the player semi transparent,or let the character"shine through" as semi transparent shape
and yes, an iso GTA game has a lot of potential... i'll try my best with my imperfect pixel skills... or maybe ask mbenney, he's evolving so fast with pixel art! wow!
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... or maybe ask mbenney, he's evolving so fast with pixel art! wow!
:D thanks :)
as it happens im working on some graphics for my pimp racing game, as i am working on a number of other games it wont be playable for quite some time! maybe i should concentrate on one game at a time!
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/benney.1/track.png
need to add some more texture to the gravel, it will also fade into grass. i couldnt really do a whole city! im way too slow!
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^^ mbenney, it's really great! although not the same style as me (more outlined and less colored), your are creating more photorealistic images. congratulations.
you say you are too slow, but the fact is, it takes a long time to create graphics.
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maybe i should concentrate on one game at a time!
thanks, im quite pleased with it
http://board.flashkit.com/board/http://board.flashkit.com/board/
do you think the car i did fits in with the background though!?
a friend of mine said the car was too cartoony
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cartoony? because of the color or what...?
did you trid to put that car playable with the background? you hade a playable swf, why not try with it?
http://www.geocities.com/ugur112/kazooweecar.jpg
yeah,i think mbenney starts to rock with pixel graphics,too,but i think yours are also everything else but imperfect :)Quote:
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ok, tom. you are terrific. really!
let me think about the game concept (your crazy taxi description is correct), but i don't think a race game is a good idea. i like so much more the liberty you have when you drive in a city instead of being blocked in a short road, racing against opponents. well , just let me think about it a little bit more ^^ having said that, i reckon that "great 10 miles rally" (race game, very cool) is also a great game... mhhhh.
also, i don't want you to have an incredible amount of work with the engine... but it seems you gave me the "permission" to imagine a very complete and complex game ^^
about PC, no, i'm still mac; i also have virtual PC installed, but i'm not really using it...
anyway, tom, thanks for your proposition, i'll think seriously about that, and i'll probably talk again with you about it.
just let me draw some environments, houses, buildings etc, and if i'm satisfied with it, then let's roll!
simpler; restrict these areas. but it depends on the configuration of the map... the problem is the same with the car, if you drive behind a building. we have to think about that proble, maybe we simply have to configure the map, placing obstacles for example not allowing you to go there... i don't know. the _alpha idea is very good, unfortunately not with flash :-(
and yes, an iso GTA game has a lot of potential... i'll try my best with my imperfect pixel skills... or maybe ask mbenney, he's evolving so fast with pixel art! wow!
you´re right,a gta like game would be much more fun than a simple racing game with fixed tracks,so yeah,just send me some graphics and i´ll create you a sample engine with them.if its possible,try to get some ready til friday or saturday evening (i´d like to work on the basic engine on weekend as i´ll have pretty much work again next week).you don´t have to cut them into tiles,you can also send me one big graphic,i can also set up a basic nontilebased engine,but that depends on what you like more (tilebased or non tilebased,i think you know the (dis)advantages of each method.we can then also test several attempts for the case the player is hidden below other objects then,too,and you can see which one runs/looks/feels best.
just give me some graphics,choose what you like best and i´m ready to go
ok tom, i just tried to convert my graphics into tiles, but it will be a real nightmare; example, only for one side diagonal border: 3 tiles! (because i chnaged the point of view with it; it's not 45 degrees iso, but less inclined). so maybe we can do that way:
tile based method, but with tiles that have the size of the game's window. maybe. what do you think?
about graphics, as i'm redoing them with that new point of view, i have nothing interesting to show, i'm still drawing the diagonals of the road, some borders etc... too bad :-( but it takes a lot of time, believe me.
but it's ok, i'll send you something one day for sure! let me just have some graphics ready.
PS; i'm using exactely the same point of view as eboy guys, maybe look for their ecity environment if you want to begin with the engine without my graphics.