Notice how bush is being more assertive with his answers?

I posted this ages ago in another forum, but in jest. I can't believe anyone would take seriosuly the idea that they would stick a transmitter in the middle of his back when there is plenty of room in the small of the back or under his arms.

Who knows what it is, it could be a bandaid or a heat pack for a sore back, and they don't want to admit to it, and I don't see why they should. But this is the kind of thing the internet(s) was built for.

I thought the response of mark mckinnon, media director of the bush campaign, was funny:

"Since we put the metal plate in his head, we have had some measure of success with audio transmissions to the President."

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Originally posted by aversion
Who knows what it is, it could be a bandaid or a heat pack for a sore back, and they don't want to admit to it, and I don't see why they should. But this is the kind of thing the internet(s) was built for.

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*sniff* We live in such a beautiful time... :)

The only explanation I want from the Bush camp is what was wrong with him during the first debate? If they come out and say he had the flu and was drugged up, had another run in with a pretzle or was b***h slapped by Cheney one too many times, I'd buy it. But him being so far off his game without an explanation just leaves the field wide open to any apparent inconsistancy.

...and I like to hear people talking about the president's buldge; makes me nostalgic for the Clinton era...

=^_^=

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Originally posted by aversion
But this is the kind of thing the internet(s) was built for.

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I'll admit there's plenty of wild speculation but sometimes the ol internet(s) gets it right. how about those faked letters about Bush's national guard service? I think it was folks online who recognized the modern typeface and spoiled that one.

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Originally posted by japangreg
...and I like to hear people talking about the president's buldge; makes me nostalgic for the Clinton era...

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at least Clinton had his bulge in the front! :) (I miss Clinton and his fiscal responsibility...not to mention his hilarious hijinks with "that woman")

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Originally posted by XcVbSdRw
how about those faked letters about Bush's national guard service? I think it was folks online who recognized the modern typeface and spoiled that one.

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Now correct me if I'm wrong, but it was never actually proven that they were forgeries, was it? What was admitted was that the source of the documents lied about where he got them from, and refused to say where he did to protect his source.

I thought all of the hub-bub about typefaces and superscripts had been more or less written off; I seem to remember one of the original people who objected to it later retracted his complaint.

Then again, I live in the same sound-bite world as anyone else and my attention span can't be trusted...

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Originally posted by japangreg
Now correct me if I'm wrong, but it was never actually proven that they were forgeries, was it? What was admitted was that the source of the documents lied about where he got them from, and refused to say where he did to protect his source.

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The only typewriter available that could have done the superscript with the font spacing and all that was 20,000 dollar typesetting maching that required a month of training to operate.

Now i'm not going to say the government doesn't waste money, but i doubt that the typesetting machine and skilled graphic artist would have been an air national gaurd unit. There were other errors besides the font and document, some of the language itself was suspect.

I like how people cared more about the memos than his actual guard record. I like how we care more about his guard record than his presidential one.

/hell in a handbasket.

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Originally posted by TallGuyLittleCar
The only typewriter available that could have done the superscript with the font spacing and all that was 20,000 dollar typesetting maching that required a month of training to operate.

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$20,000? I thought it was more like 6?

Yes, PAlexC, yes we are. More attention was paid to these docs than to those used as rational for war.

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Originally posted by japangreg
[B]$20,000? I thought it was more like 6?

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and you thought right!
20,000 was a figure for 2004 dollars, which is wrong anyway.

Ah, that makes sense. Don't know why I didn't think of that when I read your post...

Anyway, back on the conspiracy front, I noticed a strange occurance in the AP stories today: there was an item on Bush saying he didn't care about the debates right above a story on Mt. St. Helen giving the sky an 'errie glow'. Anyone else thing Cheney is deep underground right now forging rings?

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Originally posted by PAlexC
I like how people cared more about the memos than his actual guard record. I like how we care more about his guard record than his presidential one.

/hell in a handbasket.

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Maybe because it was a deliberate sleazy attempt by a "reputable" Network and Dan Rather to try and influence peoples attitude towards Bush and trying to affect his chances of being re-elected.

At the very least the should have been sacked.

I mean Democrats try to come across as the "principled" party, but they seem to want to shift attention on this one very quickly.

His guard record is out in the open from what I have read nothing shows that he failed or ran away from his duties, yet look at Kerry's Xmas in Cambodia claim.... now thats a different story.

If Bush wins this election (its possible he will ) he should refuse to ever do an interview with all the blatant biased reporters who have failed to do their basic duty to report. He should even make it his policy NOT to take any questions from these reporters during Press announcements.


Tony

man, Tony, you've really drunk the Republican kool-aid!!!

Last time I checked, political parties are not suicidal cults. And I don't think any comets have come around lately.

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Originally posted by XU1
If Bush wins this election (its possible he will )

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I won't get into this crappy speculation and conspiracy stuff, but I would say it's more than possible - it's entirely likely. It sure will be close, though.

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Originally posted by XU1
If Bush wins this election (its possible he will ) he should refuse to ever do an interview with all the blatant biased reporters who have failed to do their basic duty to report. He should even make it his policy NOT to take any questions from these reporters during Press announcements.

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The same blatanly biased reporters who only a few months ago were repeating, unquestioned, his talking points on tax cuts and the case for Iraq?

It's not as conspiratorial as you'd like to think. The press is the unofficial 4th branch of gov't.

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Originally posted by PAlexC
The same blatanly biased reporters who only a few months ago were repeating, unquestioned, his talking points on tax cuts and the case for Iraq?

It's not as conspiratorial as you'd like to think. The press is the unofficial 4th branch of gov't.

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Dan Rather is a self proclaimed "left" leaning thinker, and then there is the New York time editorials etc.

Its not a conspiracy, its a fact, and yes it works both ways, its just the hate for Bush for whatever reason seems to be more obvious and apparent.

Tony

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Originally posted by XcVbSdRw
man, Tony, you've really drunk the Republican kool-aid!!!

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Just facts that all, I dont see anything extreme from what I said.

Dan Rather is caught out red handed using forged documents to smear Bush. FACT

Then he holds on to his story refusing to admit what other document experts were telling him. FACT

Dan Rather finaly admits that he could NOT authenticate the documents, by now proven by professionals that they were forged. FACT

He keeps his Job as Anchorman at CBS. FACT

And I'm accused of falling for the Conspiracy theories??


Tony

There is no way it's a wireless system. If he did have a wireless system hooked up, you would see it in his ear, not on his back. I have a way smaller wireless system for my guitar.

I say it's a bullet proof vest.

Coming from a neutral stand point on the debates [foriegn national!] Bush came across to me very childish, in all three debates. I think Bush would make decisions based on his ideals, rather than what's best for the country.

Kerry came across to me, as strong and gracious. I never heard bush make any attempt to say something good about Kerry. But Kerry managed to compliment Bush on quite a few things.

I've been living in the US for two years, and when I call home [Australia] all my family and friends ask me if I am gonna vote to get rid of bush. Right now the world hates America, it's really sad. I love living here, the people [mostly :) ] are great. It's a shame the gov't sucks. I dunno if Kerry is the answer, but hopefully he'll do better than Bush, if he gets elected.

Speaking of bias in the news, I really thought it was funny when Bush more or less called CBS biased (then he remembered that the moderator was from CBS):

"In all due respect, I'm not so sure it's credible to quote leading news organizations about -- well, never mind."

Wasnt kerry talking about the Washington Post or some NY paper when bush replied to the statement?

...What I really want to know is what in the f he was talking about when he was mentioning pay-go system. Sounded like a bushism but you never know!