Every single iPod updated! (merged again)

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Originally Posted by Subway

...a bit on the "heavy" side...

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A bit on the heavy side. Wow. Just wow. When is the last time you saw ANY product get hyped with the fanfare of this thing, only to have the price of it drop by 33% in less than 4 months of launch? Your fanboyism may be putting too many trees in front of your forest, dude.

From a business standpoint, a price drop is meant to spark sales. Back to my original question...did they miss sales expectations? I would assume that the 'street' seems to think so as the AAPL stock is down almost 5 bucks since the announcements. I can't remember the last time I saw their stock drop on announcement day, if ever.

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Originally Posted by argonauta

But this is something all apple users already know. Back when they recently introduced the ipod mini, shuffle, nano, ipod photo and then ipod video. All those products came one after the other really fast, and everybody was sad because you bought an ipod one day and the next day they announced better cheaper ipods.

Besides, most smart apple buyers know that they have to wait for at least the second generation iPhone.

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This isn't the 2nd gen iPhone. This is the same unit that was on shelves yesterday...just $200 cheaper. So, if I bought one yesterday, I shouldn't be pissed that the price is dumped by 1/3 of the cost that I paid less than 24 hours ago?

Technological advancement is one thing. This is different...either they realized that their pricing model was completely off base, or that their sales were crap compared to what they thought. You pick.

sorry wait what i can get an 8gb ipod for $300 or a 160gb ipod for $249?

one has a touch screen that is going to wear out in 8 months and the other has that nifty wheel?

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Originally Posted by hanratty21

From a business standpoint, a price drop is meant to spark sales. Back to my original question...did they miss sales expectations? I would assume that the 'street' seems to think so as the AAPL stock is down almost 5 bucks since the announcements. I can't remember the last time I saw their stock drop on announcement day, if ever.

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I think they are worried because the ipod can kill the iPhone. If they had announced a 60GB Ipod touch, the iPhone would be dead by noon.

Maybe that's also why stock prices are down? Everybody was expecting the new ipods to be all like the iphone

AFAIK they were pleased with the sales numbers, it was the best selling smartphone in July. Given that BB has new toys out as well, that's pretty good, but there's a lot of competition in the non-smartphone arena.

This doesn't mean sales were bad, but just not at the level they expected. They also have to worry about the new iPod cannibalizing the iPhone. If it's too much cheaper, it might just do that.

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Originally Posted by argonauta

Maybe that's also why stock prices are down? Everybody was expecting the new ipods to be all like the iphone

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I don't think that those driving the price of the stock are as interested in the product line as those posting on Engadget, but...I am thinking that the products cannibalizing each other may be cause for concern.

*Update* 30 minutes left in trading day and they are down over 7 bucks now...more than 5% on the day (all since the press conference, btw)

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Originally Posted by hanratty21

This isn't the 2nd gen iPhone. This is the same unit that was on shelves yesterday...just $200 cheaper.

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I know I know, :) that was somehow an unrelated comment. The answer to why I think they dropped the price is on a post above this one

Also, right now, how many people will not buy the new ipod touch, 'knowing' that Apple will release a higher capacity ipod in 6 months, lowering the current ipod prices? (though I don't think they'll release another ipod touch until they have a new iphone. They have to keep the ipod one step below the iphone or they'll kill it).

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Originally Posted by hanratty21

I don't think that those driving the price of the stock are as interested in the product line as those posting on Engadget, but...I am thinking that the products cannibalizing each other may be cause for concern.

*Update* 30 minutes left in trading day and they are down over 7 bucks now...more than 5% on the day (all since the press conference, btw)

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Also, though with less influence, the new ipod nano design got leaked a few days ago, and I don't think it was well received (not as badly received as Palm's Foleo, but still, most people thought it was a bad change for the nano).

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Originally Posted by Steve Jobs

"This is a worldwide product, the first touch product Apple's going to ship outside the US, it's going to be shipping all around the world."

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^ An outright lie.

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Originally Posted by argonauta

Also, though with less influence, the new ipod nano design got leaked a few days ago, and I don't think it was well received ...

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I don't like the look of them as well. However, with small products like this, they often look much better in person. Anyway, I ordered my 16GB touch, so I'm happy. :)

Fredi

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Originally Posted by silverx2

sorry wait what i can get an 8gb ipod for $300 or a 160gb ipod for $249?

one has a touch screen that is going to wear out in 8 months and the other has that nifty wheel?

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80 gb iPod is $249 btw.

Larger touch screen, wifi/web, solid state, smaller ... just to name a few reasons. Some of the same reasons people opt for the Nano over the iPod as well.

this stuff looks cool and all, but how am i going to squeeze my 62 gigs of songs onto the 16GB iPod touch? was the thin form factor really worth the drop in storage?

Wow, Subby must have really left again.

http://www.apple.com/ipodtouch/

Not surprised, but it definitely will be on my list... wifi and touch screen. I can life with that.

Does the iPod thread that Subway started not count?

holy mcdamn... didn't see that. merged.

It all makes sense now!!!
The iphone was badly slated for it's internet connectivity!
So why did apple not make use of what they have done with the new ipod?

Would it be because the new the new ipod was sitting in the wings with it's internet connection using local wifi hotspots to connect to the net?

Think about it.

Why would they NOT want to add this to the iphone when they are due to release a new ipod 6 months later?

More sales
If they had added this to the iphone then there would have been no need to release a new ipod for some time.

How many ipod suckers are there out there rushing off to by the new ipod?

STVD (Subway Thread Visibility Disorder) ... mostly comes together with huge side effects and is unhealable in most cases. ;)

Fredi

keep ya' syndrome. for me it's called a heap of traveling and not seeing any fanboyism immediately and being surprised.

glad to know you didn't disappoint in any regard.

Under the features for the classic in the movies tab did they honestly use Zoolander for the sample pic? haha.

Dude - you're kidding me with a 'new' thread on this, right?
http://board.flashkit.com/board/showthread.php?t=743692