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Maybe you ought to try another browser instead, like Mozilla or Opera. Mozilla has undergone much development lately, and it much faster than it used to be, plus it's standards compliant.
Personally, I use Opera 6 and it's awesome. You can have all your browser windows open in the same window (sort of like old versions of Word or UltraEdit). When you exit and start again, all the windows you had opened pop back up, so you can leave anytime and go back where you were. It has an ICQ client, an e-mail client and a news reader. It's faster than both Mozilla and IE too. Try it, it's only like 3 Mb, highly recommended. http://www.opera.com
Just bouncing around some ideas ;)
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Thanks, i'll give opera a try. Is it better than Netscape/mozilla or any other browser in your opinion? Does it support most things IE supports? (or better--what doesn't it support?) Thanks.
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For some reason, Opera loads the images, but I have to right click and press show image to see them
Why is that?
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Originally posted by TrIzKuT
For some reason, Opera loads the images, but I have to right click and press show image to see them
Play around in the settings, should be there somewhere.
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Windows ME????
I have no idea why it done this but have a look....
>Because i had so many problem's with my Dell computer,
I needed to reinstall Windows ME. But the strange thing
was that it over wrote IE6 and put IE5 back on. So i am
sticking with IE5. I dont advise that you reinstall "ME"
on top of "ME" unless you really need too.
>The only other way to unistall IE6 is if you you have
Nortan Clean sweep. and do unistall wizard and click
IE6 somewhere on your start menu.
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I am also on ME, i will only reinstall that as a last resort.
I have Norton Utilities...I have something called Wipe-Info..is that what you mean?
[Edited by hockyfan on 03-17-2002 at 01:53 PM]
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If you have Windows 95-2000 SP 1 you can Use IEradicate to kill IE 6 http://www.98lite.net and then go up to MS website and grab IE 5.X or 4.X if you want. IEradicate leaves 2 files on your machine so that your machine will still work.
Before you kill IE you may want to grab a smaller web browser so that you can download and browse while reloading IE. I use K-meleon http://kmeleon.sourceforge.net/ its only 3 megs to download and is pretty resource lite and based on Mozilla code so it makes a good browser to check pages for mozilla/netscape.
In terms of functionality NS is actually ahead of MSIE- They have fully working PNG suport, better CSS support than MSIE, and MNG support and if you download actual netscape it comes with a Built in Translator, Web Composer, mail Client, Chat Client, WEb 2 Phone, WinAMP, and some other junk that you will never use but is tossed into NS becuase of some deal or another with their partners.
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Johnie--
thanks, i might try that. Is the IEradicate safe though? I have the Norton Clean Sweep, would that work? If so, how do i use it?
If it won't work, i'll try the IEradicate:)
i just went to the 98lite site--it says the program is for IE 4/5 and win98...will it work on IE6 with ME?
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IEradicate is completly safe although it may muck up your preview settings from your folders if you have them set and thus you would have to reset them.
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alright, i'm trying it now--if it doesn't work....i know where you live johnie;)
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Originally posted by hockyfan
alright, i'm trying it now--if it doesn't work....i know where you live johnie;)
Make sure you have an alt browser first.
IEradicat removes IE and if you don't have another browser getting another copy of IE may be problematic.
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This is what you need.
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Originally posted by hockyfan
I am also on ME, i will only reinstall that as a last resort.
I have Norton Utilities...I have something called Wipe-Info..is that what you mean?
No, Is is on Norton Cleansweep and on one of the
things you can do is "uninstall wizard". when you
click that you need to find the icon on your windows
start menu. After you found IE6 and uninstalled it, then
put IE5 or IE 5.5 back on.
But only do the reinstall of ME as a last resort. Because
it may cause more problems then before.
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Good thing to know about ME
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This is what happend with Dell.
I found out that most of the problem's on my
computer were caused by windows ME. But most
of the problems are caused by third party ME,
such as "dell" "Packard bell" and so on. Now
that I put a NEW "windows ME" on my system, all
the problems have been fixed. BUT it may uninstall
IE 6 and put 5 or 5.5 on and delete your Macromedia
flash player but u can always reinstall them.
I also advise that you dont install ME over ME too.
You should only ever reinstall the system software
if there is a major problem on your system, Mine
was USB drivers. So only install ME if it is the
last option you have.
-William_Tropico.
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yeah, i'm using a "Dell" ME:(
that's where my problem is, i guess:(
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Here are some good links....
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Originally posted by hockyfan
yeah, i'm using a "Dell" ME:(
that's where my problem is, i guess:(
Hockyfan this may be your problem.
Enable Java
If you're running an older version of Windows, something
else is causing Java to fail. First, you should check to
see if Java has been disabled. In IE, go to the Tools >
Internet Options menu, click the Security tab, and select
the Internet zone. Now click the Custom Level button, which
brings up another dialog box. Scroll down the list until
you see Microsoft VM. Under that item, you'll see Java
Permissions, which lists a number of options. Make sure the
Disable Java option is not selected; we prefer the High
Safety option instead.
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As far as the image loading problem goes, it may be because of your image options are wrong. Try pressing g, it'll toggle between no graphics, all graphics and show only cached images. That may solve your problem.
Also try F12 for the quick preferences dialog, check if everything's OK.
As for your other questions, from a strict standards-compliance point, Mozilla is slightly better than Opera, which itself is largely better than IE6, and I won't even bother going into IE5. Opera and Mozilla have way better support for CSS2, things like sub-selectors and other neat things. Javascript support is great in IE6 and in Mozilla, passable in Opera, but enough to get you though pop-ups and rollovers and all that, which is like 95% of all javascript on the web anyway.
For plugins, Opera recently (in version 6) added LiveConnect support, which makes it on par with Mozilla. IE has ActiveX which can be downloaded automatically, which is way better for Aunt Alice-type users. Since most Mozilla and Opera users are power-users, it doesn't really make any difference at the end of the day.
For e-mail, Opera's composer is text only, while Outlook and Mozilla's composer support HTML e-mail. Personnally, I find text e-mail way better, since it saves design-impaired people from their own stupidity ( can anyone say: red MS Comic size 20 text on a black background? ). Opera and Outlook support multiple accounts for e-mail, dunno about Mozilla.
In any event, all can READ HTML e-mail. Outlook has been known, however, to have a small (*cough* huge *cough*) amount of security problems.
Speed-wise, Opera beats *any* other browser out there. IE is a close second, while Mozilla is laughably slow. All three are pretty stable. Size-wise, Opera is the smallest, followed by Mozilla, and IE is dead last.
In the end, I would choose Opera for speed and the multiple document interface, Mozilla for standards-compliance. The only reason I would choose IE is because basically every web designer in the world designs for it.
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pmineault--
thank you very much...here is what i've concluded though.
I've finally managed to get rid of IE6, and am now using IE5, i still have the same errors. I've tried Netscape 6.1 (or 6.2, whichever is the newest, i forget) as well as Opera. I was impressed with Opera's speed, but to my distress, Opera and Netscape both had these same javascript errors. Which leads me to believe, that the problem resides in my OS, or something related to that, as mentioned in an above post.
If anyone has any suggestions on how to go about fixing this, (like if you had the same problem) please let me know.
Thanks:)
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Well, if it's an OS problem, the only real way to get rid of it is, sorry to say, format c:.
Maybe you ought to try something different than Windows ME. Windows 98SE works pretty well. I recently installed Win2000 and I can honestly say that it is absolutely awesome. Super stable, extremely fast.
If you don't want to lose your docs and they're on the c: drive, then you can try Partition Magic which will allow you to create a resize your old partition nd create a new one. Then trasfer all your docs to the new partition, and format c:. This way you can still have all your docs intact and do a clean install of your OS. Don't forget to backup your e-mail too.
I don't recommend at all installing Windows ME over your current version, it's always a bad idea. What you need is a fresh start.
If you think that's an overly drastic solution, you can always download AdAware (try zdnet or download.com). It's a program designed to find and remove so-called spyware programs. Some of them, like OnFlow, stay in memory all the time behind your back and cause weird errors for no apparent reason.
But really, there's nothing better than a fresh start.
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Yeah, right now, I am considering a format. And i've used 2000 a bunch, and it works like a charm. I've heard pretty good things about XP pro too. But i don't own either, so whichever i would get i would have to buy, so i want to get the better one.
I'm going to try and get some more help, but if not, i'm going to get the new OS. I just have a lot on this one now, so it will take some time to back up. I also have AdAware, and i use it quite frequently, but i'll do another check.
Thanks again:)
~quick...check it out.....my post count is 1111:D
for those who missed it...here ya go
[Edited by hockyfan on 03-17-2002 at 09:32 PM]
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Originally posted by pmineault
Speed-wise, Opera beats *any* other browser out there. IE is a close second, while Mozilla is laughably slow. All three are pretty stable. Size-wise, Opera is the smallest, followed by Mozilla, and IE is dead last.
In the end, I would choose Opera for speed and the multiple document interface, Mozilla for standards-compliance. The only reason I would choose IE is because basically every web designer in the world designs for it.
K-Meleon is faster than Opera. If you use the Symbiotic loader the Load time is less than .5 seconds. In otherwords it loads instantly or as close to instantly as possible. Its based off of Embedded Mozilla and has a few bugs but all in all is greaty little browser.
Major downsides of K-Meleon, if you want to call them that;
1. No Built in E-Mail. You will need your own E-Mail client. Endura, Pegasus Mail, ETC are all good free E-Mail Clients. Off Coarse if you get MS Office, Star Office, or Corel WP Office an E-Mail client is included.
2. No History.
3. No Slide out Bars or silly search windows- Its just a simple browser.
4. Only allows 256 Favorites.
5. Multiple SWFS on a page drag it way down and may freeze the browser.
6. No built in HTML Editor.
Major Upsides of K-Meleon;
1. It uses Embedded Mozilla so it is as CSS and ECMA Compliant as Mozilla.
2. It Uses Mozilla/NS Plug-Ins3. Becuase it uses native Windows Widgets it is faster and smaller than Mozilla.
4. Since it is just a simple browser it is much smaller than other browsers.
5. It is completly customizable- The code is avialble via GPL and NPL.
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Yeah, i forgot to mention, if i did a format, i probably won't go back to IE--any version!
And you guys are making it so hard on me, making each alternate browser seem good:D So here's my question, i need a browser (pretty fast, but i do have Cable) that supports ALL javascript (pop ups, like estudio.com) AND flash support. Thanks.
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Originally posted by hockyfan
Yeah, i forgot to mention, if i did a format, i probably won't go back to IE--any version!
And you guys are making it so hard on me, making each alternate browser seem good:D So here's my question, i need a browser (pretty fast, but i do have Cable) that supports ALL javascript (pop ups, like estudio.com) AND flash support. Thanks.
Well K-Meleon, Mozilla, Netscape all foot that bill but you have to remember that they are all the same browser rendering engine so the Javascript and Rendering is identical- well except that NS 6.2 is older than the latest K-Meleon or Mozilla. Opera would be a good choice also although it isn't perfect with JS. For some things you have to have MSIE for- I tried to file my taxes Online and most of them force you to use IE. You also have some Bozo designers who design only for IE instead of sticking to standards.
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Alright, so if i were to format then, what should i use, IE6 or IE5? (and if IE5, which version, 5.1, etc.)
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I would suggest that you use whichever version of IE is included with your OS.
What most users of alternative browsers (like myself) do is use these browsers on a day-to-day basis, and keep a copy of IE handy for problem sites. When a site doesn't work with you r alternative browser, often, simply e-mailing the webmaster of the site will have them doing leaps and bounds to correct the problem.
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I have an IE problem too, it just started for absoulutly no reason a week ago. When I shift click on somthing, or click on a link that brings up a new window, the content of the new window doesn't load
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Yeah, sounds like mine--are these JS popup windows?
BTW...Ed_Mack, when did you become a mod?
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hi all
thats is some thread on an object expected error. as far as i know those errors with the triangles in the corner usually mean that there is a problem with the script. the browser is looking for an object that is no where to be found in the js. you may only be seeing it in ie 6 because it is a new browser and the js may need to be tweaked for this version. (an exmple[a loose one at that] of what i mean is that not all browsers support frames so for older browsers one puts the noframes tag.)
i went to your crazy eddie page i like the drawing.
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Thanks..not my drawing, but thanks:p I updated it:)
btw...sites such as aim.com don't even work, and to top it off, all the sites that aren't working now, worked a few months ago with my computer, and with the same IE6.
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glad to hear you updated
i have no problems with the aol site on my computer and ie6.
so now i am much confused :)
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hockyfan,
Thanks for the site check. I did a quick search on the MS KnowledgeBase and did get this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/...;en-us;Q281679
I will admit I haven't taken the time to read this entire thread, so I apologize if I'm repeating info already in here. I'm on a mission to get this portfolio site done, but I wanted to try to return the site check favor if I could.
later,
-monster.
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that article just proves there is a bug in ie 6. which reminds me. does any one ever have a problem with style sheets in ie 6? ie: sometimes they decide not to display.
just wonderin.
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Originally posted by monsterfx
hockyfan,
Thanks for the site check. I did a quick search on the MS KnowledgeBase and did get this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/search/...;en-us;Q281679
I will admit I haven't taken the time to read this entire thread, so I apologize if I'm repeating info already in here. I'm on a mission to get this portfolio site done, but I wanted to try to return the site check favor if I could.
later,
-monster.
so now i have to contact microsoft to fix it? Is there any way i can just download the fix?
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look for an udate first b4 cintacting microsoft. they my have a public fix for it by now :)
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look for an udate first b4 cintacting microsoft. they my have a public fix for it by now :)
can't seem to find it anywhere, do you know where i should look? From it seems, i need to contact them directly to et the fix.
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start here
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/...ds/default.asp
there is a security update that was just released march 28th. that one would be under critical. did u also try the windows site for any updates. http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com/
then if all else fails contact microsoft.
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wow!!:D:D
Just thought you would all like to know, i finally fixed the error, without having to format, etc. A few steps until it worked, but i have no more errors, and can finally see estudio.com again!!:)
I'd like to thank all of you for all of the help, and for keeping this thread alive, when i'd given up hope, thinking i'd have the error forever. I'll leave this open for another day or so, in case anyone wants to know exactly how I fixed it (if you have the same problem).
Thanks again!:)
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i would like to know.
my thirst for knwledge can never be quenched
