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well, one or two guys in my game that are original, it doesn't bother me. but too much, and the game will go in another direction, and will be more an original game than a mix of known characters. you see what i mean?
btw, did you perfected the design of your guy, or you used the same i already saw?
woops, another page. to keep things easy, here are the links again:
old version:
http://www.marmotte.levillage.org/example.html
little new version
http://www.marmotte.levillage.org/example2.html
i am actually making simple animations of the guy - then giving them character
i'll be going to the michigan dunes for 3 days with my buds so ill show you what i mean on wednesday or tuesday
http://www.angelfire.com/punk3/fosphertoons/fight.html
here's a preview of the guy, marmotte
i got more moves than that - just thought id give em to you when im done
[Edited by fospher.com on 08-24-2002 at 08:56 PM]
hehe, looks like you are working on your character. and looks like there will be special moves with the sword ^^
everyone, i need your opinion...
i want to change the playability of my game...
for the moment, keys are:
space= weak punch
space+left = medium punch
space+right = strong punch
but i want to change them to this:
some button = weak or medium punch
some button = strong punch...
> i mean, two buttons for the punches, two buttons for the kicks... is it a deal? i think it will allow a wider palette of moves. of course, for minor characters that have not as many moves, strong and weak punches movments will be the same. what do you think? i'm already putting the system up...
btw i'm still trying to understand how to make combinations... i'm working on it
omg you guys are all great...can i have some of your aim handles...i would like to rip sprites from games and also would like to create games. i need to work up to that point and i need sum1 to help me with my actionscripting. i have a streetfighter rom...how would i rip sprites from that....and is fireworks 4 a good for creating gifs? i use flash mx and im looking for to talking to new people.
thx
little update!
i worked the code a bit, now i can put it either on player one, either on player two, there'll be no conflicts with key presses... emmmh, i mean you can play my game now with two players, and it means the two players have the same code ^^ great, huh?
for the moment, no protection, no lifebar, no special attacks. but you can already test the two player mode and report bugs. it's always welcome ^^
player two moves:
left=a
right=d
up=w
down=s
punch=1
kick=2
link:
http://www.marmotte.levillage.org/example.html
Psytrix
hello ^^
i just posted several hours ago some tips to rip sprites. check this two posts, on page 2:
posted: 08-24-2002 08:09 AM
posted: 08-24-2002 09:23 AM
as for action scripting, believe me, several months ago i really sucked at it... i wasn't even able to make a character moving with the key presses...
well, read some tutorials (i mean, newbies tutorials)...
oh, and if you rip sprites, then maybe you'll can give them to meeee? ^^ i'll put them in my current game. it takes a lot of time to rip sprites, that's why i wanted people that are interested in these forums to rip sprites for me...
Ok, Marmotte, what's your email address? I'll make a little combo fla and send it to you.
Nevermind, I uploaded the file for you:
http://members.chello.nl/~m_vertommen/marmotte.fla
To see wich moves you can perform, just check the moves array.
If you need any help, just let me know!
Good luck!! :D
Grtz,
maikel
Ow I found a little bug, the timer starts right away, so if you start your move just before the timer ends, it doesn't work...The timer should start when you press a key and reset if it's no combo anymore...I don't have time to fix it now, cause I have to go to work, but I think you'll figure it out yourself...otherwise just lemme know!! :D
I'm pissed off!
I love 2d fighting games! I've been wanting to do this in Flash and whenever i asked for help nobody helped, i know where to get EVERY Fight Sprite you need (and no it's not http://www.gsarchives.com) But i really want to help in this project or at least do my own coz this is the type of game i've always wanted to make!
Marmotte what's your MSN/AIM/Yahoo messenger name, coz i need to ask a few things, e-mail me at: ssj_hoody"hotmail.com and one more thing nobody is a bigger fan than 2d figt games than i AM!!!
Hoody :(
Hey Marmotte, you know way more action script than me, but i can help you with the sprites, if you want different costume colours i'll do them if you want, if you want LOTS of characters and their moves i'll get them for you, but i really want to help because i was originally making a fighting game, but then you started and i think i should just quit because mine will be crap compared to yours :(
Hoody
EVERYBODY LISTEN UP!
Here is where i get all my Fight Sprites! There are litterally hundreds of sprites! http://www.gamegen.com/main.html and another site, it doesn't have as much but: http://msprites.iongames.org/
Hope i've helped in some way, the reason i'm pissed is coz i wanted to do this game first and be like 'the first guy who did it properly' but since Marmottes doing it, i'll just forget it.
When on gamegen.com click the link 'Characters' there you'll get all the ones you need, warning, each character takes a bit of time to load on 56k
Hoody
Hoody
!!!waooouuhh!!!! thank you, these sites seems to be more that what i expected!! i think my game will be a killer one with that lot of sprites!!!
thanks, thanks, thanks. i'm very happy because ripping characters takes so long time! well, if i need you, i'll tell you. my email is in my profile, if not check my web site... see you soon.
oh, btw, there's already a fighting game in flash, based on king of fighter series. and it's incredible also. if you are interested, do a search in these forums with king of fighter. ^^
MTV
i didn't open your file yet, but thanks for your amazing help! i also found a tutorial site which explains combos and fighters movments... but i think your example will be better because only oriented combos... ^^
everyone
thanks for all your efforts with me... that's because of guys like you that i can express myself that way with video games ^^
you know what? with my battle engine, i'll be able to play from 1 to 4 players simultaneously without changing the code (i'll check the speed, if it's ok with that much). i mean, 2 guys versus 1 guy, a super fight between 4 guys, and so. imagine the combinations ^^
improvments to come. didn't you noticed, in the current version if you hit the other player while he's jumping, sometimes he never reaches the floor again ^^ of course i fixed that. i'll post a new version with more improvments, believe me
No problem Marmotte, good luck with your game and if you need any help just ask!
I hope this doesn't mean you won't finish your rpg though, because it was great!!
oh, my rpg project is... over. well, i mean transormed to "my little web site" ^^
wow, that is really cool, I didn't see it before.
very original Marmotte!!
hoody, the sites you posted are incredible...
but... they changed the color of the sprites... i mean, for example in the "stance" animation, the character is white, and in the "walk" animation, it is red or whatever... mmmh, annoying. also, jump moves and jump attacks are always ignored, unfotunately. but well, incredible sites. i wonder if i can do something with it, saying that...
Your welcome Marmotte, i noticed that about gamegen too, but if you go to ms-sprites (i gave you the URL earlier) , well they have some good Neo Geo Sprites and Fight Sprites.
But if you want i could change the Color of some of the sprites to their original colour if you want?
Hoody
PS: Marmotte i porsted a thread with some RPG questions it should still be on the 1st page of the games forum, can you take a look and tell me what you think?
really? you can change the "other" colors for me? waouh, you are more than motivate ^^
what about the missing moves?
Yeah i could change the colors, and as for the other moves, it depends which ones you want, e-mail me or reply and i'll see.
Also can you check my RPG post plz?
thanx..
Hoody
I wanna help! :D I'll host another alternative link too ;)
hoody
thanks for all your efforts ^^.
mmh, let's think. which sprite could you rip or change... i was thinking about mai shiranui, she's soooo... ^^
but wait, i'll check which one (there are different versions of her).
but if you want to suggest special characters you really want to rip/complete/change, i'm listening to you
Runes_Tooth
hello, long time no see ^^
what kind of help?
and about your alternative links, are you talking about my little web site, or only my little and few games?
I'll host any files you need. :D
And I was referring to making the fighters.
Nice to see you again. ;)
...ripping?
I was thinking more along the lines of ripping the sprites, fixing up the characters and then sending you the fla's :D
runes_tooth
that's maybe what you meant... but when i put some animated sprites (only with flash MX), they go "in the right place" by their own. i mean, i have not to put them individualy one after another, they go directly at the right place and already animated on the timeline... feature that wasn't in the flash 5 edition (i am wrong?)
MTEV
i tried your combo code... i'm half satisfied with it (maybe it's my fault)
here is the point with it:
1) in the left, up, down, right combo, for example, if i push left, up, left, right, down, up, right, the combo works. that's a little bit annoying me...
2) in the left, left, left combo, i only have to stay with left pressed to see the result animation. annoying too... (see, i may push left, left to tell the character to run left or something)
> so
i'm thinking more of something like this:
an array that keeps in memory all 6 (or whatever) last key pressed. if it looks like a possible combo (left, right, left), then it executes the move. if not, nothing happens exept the usual moves (ie left= walk left)
if a combo is executed, the array doesn't keep key pressed until the character finishes his combo move. i know how to do it, exept the array that memorizes the keys pressed, and maybe the fact of checking that array for possible combo moves. also, for the left, left, left combo, another (or the same array) that also check when a key is released...
what do you think of that idea? is it more reliable?
Hey marmotte need any more characters i can make the whole complete ones only from neogeo or the SNK ones. If you want any fighters from there let me know and ill rip em in a flash.
Good luck on your game i know from what i seen from you so far you can make it another great game.
email or just reply to this message is just fine
well, the neo-geo is the best console for fighting sprites...
ok... let's go:
would you like to rip "mauru" from waku waku 7? some parts of his animation are here:
http://msprites.iongames.org/browse.php3?cat=87
please rip him with his standard coloration.
you can also try to rip the final ennemy of waku waku 7. i don't remember his name, but it was very huge (like godzilla ^^), and very cute. he looks like a giant black ball funny but terribly dangerous.
oh, and also rip the portraits of these characters (for the intro, presentation ...etc)
if you don't own the waku waku 7 rom, try "Jae Hoon" from the game garou... ther's of course some samples in the site i just posted. beware: his standard color is white ^^
oh, good luck, and if you haven't one of these roms, there are plenty of others characters to rip, believe me ^^
and super thanks
as soon i'll finish the battle code and the ryu's character (i also have to rip myself the missing moves, like jump, jump+punch...etc), i'll be able to add other characters in no time ^^
Hi Marmotte,
Of course there are many other ways to do the combo moves, I just used the piece of code you posted for my example, because I thought you preferred that. The way you suggested to do it would work, but it would probably be easier to just change what you already got. Right now it doesn't clear the moves array, unless the time is up or you perform the move. The only thing you would need to do is clear the corresponding array if the next key that is pressed does not fit in the combo (the check is already being made anyway). The second problem (the same key a number of times in a combo) would be easily solved as well, by just adding a boolean that would check if the key was being pressed the previous frame or not..so that way you would have to release it in between instead of holding it down. This might all sound a bit confusing, but if you like I'll change the example I made for you, so that it suits your needs better...the only problem is that it will have to wait until wednesday before I have time to finish it...
Let me know what you think!
Grtz,
Maikel
ok, i'll look at that code again, in order to make him perfect... and if i really cannot make it work with my game, then i'll manifest again... ^^
thanks for your help anyway...
combo system in the works!
MTEV, i just put up the combo system i described earlier. it works really great, i think i can finally deal with arrays (it's never too late i suppose ^^). my array checks the 6 last keys pressed (i wonder if there'll be combos that long?), and if a special combination appears, like left, left, right, the characters attacks accordingly. i need to put a timer, and do some tests... but for the moment it looks good. thanks for your help, anyway ^^
"my little web site" updated
there's now a little forum in my little web site. check the chest and you'll can put messages ^^ (i'll change the location of that forum soon)
i'm all alone here ^^
i just little updated my fighting game:
http://www.marmotte.levillage.org/example.html
mmmh. that's all ^^
it also means: on more thing to improve ^^
hey there marmotte,
to be honest,i don´t like games with ripped sprites a lot,but to be honest some more,yours isn´t looking like the ordinary blatantly bad executed and equally bad ripped copy (like many other ripped-graphics games),but instead it looks like it´s slowly but surely becoming a good king of fighters game.i liked king of fighters on neo geo a lot (for those of you who don´t know it,it was the yearly clash of the best fighters tournament game on neo geo featuring the coolest characters from all snk games).
i didn´t read the whole thread but i read one post where you asked for combo/controls help (if i remember it right).
As i like your project,i´d like helping to make the controls equally good as the graphics,so
if you still need help with that,contact me once you´ve got all (special) moves (anims) for all characters implemented which you´d like to have in your game,and also send a key combination list for the moves/special moves
for all characters (like ryu: fireball: down,right,punch),so i can implement the key combination/time based key check system.
mags suggestions are clever,you should use them and maybe also add a learn variable.
for example in capcom beatémúps this variable was used for each move,so if the player did the same move several times again and again,the cpu player reacted more harsh each time.
another important thing is implementing a skill variable,so you can set the skill level of the cpu before the game starts.as the cpu should have several possible reaction moves on each move of the player,you should rate them by skill and let him choose better moves if his skill is higher.
just some thougths...
heya marmotte,
I saw your site and fell in love with how you did it! I was wondering if you wouldn't mind me making my own site out of your design using the .fla that was on your site a while back. I will be using WAY different sprites but I think its only right to ask permission anyway. Oh, and good luck on your fighting game, it's comin along great!
magnetos
yes, the ai will be terrible to code. but i have several ideas... btw, the character's playability is also harder and harder... there are a lot of parameters, a lot of variables, ough! why isn't he more smarter by himself? ^^
tomsamson
yes, i was wondering how to put up the combo possibility. now i've found one, but... well, it's not perfect. what do you suggest? oh yes, i can give you combos of the moves for ryu, of course, but... can you show me how you'll do the hadoken example (that combo is down, down+right, right, punch)? i tried it, but without success. as for the moment, my combo system is "too" perfect, i mean if we don't press EXACTLY on the correct keys, the combo isn't possible... not that easy to handle the down+right direction in a combo... also some combos must have a key release, some no... pretty hard in definitive. so if you have the time, can you tell me or show me how you'll code the hadoken? thanks ^^
i'm using arrays, of course.
rowten
of course you can use the concept of my little web site ^^
it's not copyrighted, but you asked my permission though.
i mean, i like honest and respectable people ^^
but be careful: it will take you a lot of time!
ok, i updated it again...
same link, same game:
http://www.marmotte.levillage.org/example.html
i just fixed the jump bug, now it works perfectly ^^
i also added the hadoken move, although the key combo is different from the original game... i think i'll put a new code for combos that allows the real hadoken's key combo. (guess i'll wait for tomsamson example to figure out some interesting issues) now you only have to do the following: left, right, punch.
also, what is your average framerate? i personaly got around 50 and 60...
oh, and about the file size... only one character, and 500ko! what do you suggest? of course i'm not using the attach mode to put my MCs, because of the first frame "problem"...
i thought about loading characters with the command loadMovie... and each time a loading... the fact is, when we load a MC, we cannot directly put it a specific name, like the attach or duplicate MC method (a lot of my code is based depending on the MC's name).
so loadingMCs is the best way in that case, am i wrong?
using arrays is good,i´ll test the newest version of the game in a min to see what you mean with the problems your combo system has .Quote:
Originally posted by marmotte
yes, i was wondering how to put up the combo possibility. now i've found one, but... well, it's not perfect. what do you suggest? oh yes, i can give you combos of the moves for ryu, of course, but... can you show me how you'll do the hadoken example (that combo is down, down+right, right, punch)? i tried it, but without success. as for the moment, my combo system is "too" perfect, i mean if we don't press EXACTLY on the correct keys, the combo isn't possible... not that easy to handle the down+right direction in a combo... also some combos must have a key release, some no... pretty hard in definitive. so if you have the time, can you tell me or show me how you'll code the hadoken? thanks ^^
i'm using arrays, of course.
send me the hadoken animation,so i can create a sample with it.
(but don´t send me huge sized files)