If you eliminate possibility of animated avatars, I got:
1.5324955408658888583583470271503e+54
^^^ incorrect
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If you eliminate possibility of animated avatars, I got:
1.5324955408658888583583470271503e+54
^^^ incorrect
i recently saw "21 grams", and it's not the first time i've heard this: when you die, at the very moment your existance stops, you loose 21 grams, no more, no less........i've heard that a lot of times......is it true? and if so? where do does 21 grams go? what are they? some people say it's the weight of the soul, might be....what else can it be? your last fart dying with you?
maybe it has something to do with the motions of your organs (heart, lungs, etc)?
If you drink 11 Mt. Dew's one after the other, will it really kill you?
Everyone should read this then return here for discussion.
http://www.forum2.org/tal/books/geb.html
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Thanks to this book I understand how time travel works. It's basically an exploration into the idea of perfectly fuctioning artificial intelligence.
It covers alot of deep ideas and brings alot of them to light. Consider an ant hill. The ants themselves are unconcious of the ant hill. One could learn to conversate with the ant hill, but never the ants. The hill as an entity would communicate it's current issues with what the ants were doing, gathering, building, etc. This all seems crazy until he relates it to how the brain works.
There's also a story about someone asking a djin if he can have more wishes. He says let me ask my god. G.o.d. ends up standing for God Of DJIN and were djin's themselves thus, every djin asked had to turn around and ask a higher djin in infinitum. It all seems crazy til he relates it infinite smallness or bigness.
Nah, the fart theory holds more, weight *giggles* than that organ nonsense. :)
but there is all kinds of farts, making each one a different weight.Quote:
Originally posted by squidlips
Nah, the fart theory holds more, weight *giggles* than that organ nonsense. :)
and 21 grams seems a little hefty. even for a large fart.
I go with indivision's theory, the cease of movement of the organs may cause you to lose those 21 grams
congratulations guys! we just hit a new low.
Oh god I hope soQuote:
Originally posted by asun2art
If you drink 11 Mt. Dew's one after the other, will it really kill you?
I drink like 40 litres of Mountain Dew per day and I'm still here.
However, if you followed through on that fart, you might be able to ammount a pile of 21 gramsQuote:
Originally posted by indivision
and 21 grams seems a little hefty. even for a large fart.
lol. ok ok...!Quote:
Originally posted by absolutezero
However, if you followed through on that fart, you might be able to ammount a pile of 21 grams
mountain dew is wierd!
do people really laugh out loud when they write "lol"?
is that a wierd thought?
... yes, i did when i read absolutezero's post
It's good to hear I make people happy.
Here's a thought. If the Coffee Lounge posts added to your post count, what would people like Aversion be on now? And, do they have anything else to do in life?
This is not an attack on high posters, just wondering how much time per day do they spend on flashkit?
think of how different your life would be if we didn't need to eat. I mean, seriously, you would enver meet up with friends at colonial, lunch wouldn't make your day more bearable, no jobs at burger king, no more easy last minute presents, and essencially, no pooping.
Would this mean there would be no people that were full of ****?Quote:
Originally posted by alty29
think of how different your life would be if we didn't need to eat. I mean, seriously, you would enver meet up with friends at colonial, lunch wouldn't make your day more bearable, no jobs at burger king, no more easy last minute presents, and essencially, no pooping.
How come it's set up that when the weather is hot and humid and maybe you want to take more than one shower in a day, your towel stays wet all day, making for an unpleasant second (or third) bathing experience, but when it's cold and the air is dry, when you have no intention of taking more than one shower a day, your towel dries in less than an hour?
no pooping would mean no farts aswell, that would mean you'd not loose 21 grams when you die, also, it'd mean you don't need to drink 11 cans of mountain dew......it'd be world chaos!Quote:
Originally posted by alty29
think of how different your life would be if we didn't need to eat. I mean, seriously, you would enver meet up with friends at colonial, lunch wouldn't make your day more bearable, no jobs at burger king, no more easy last minute presents, and essencially, no pooping.
Those myth buster guys just tried to solve this one. The hooked up a pigs stomache to a hose and started pooring soda into it and it just got bigger and bigger. They added pop-rocks to try and make it explode but no dice. Just really really bad stomache ache.Quote:
Originally posted by pooon
Oh god I hope so
Damn :(
I was hoping to rid this world of people who actually drink a dozen mountian dew in a row.
just would end in a long burp and over-caffeination.
Some weeks ago I've seen an interview with Hawkings (or did I read it? I always have that startrek episode picture in mind when I read about him ;) ). However, he explained why time travels are impossible. It's because the particles lose the structure do to the "random" quantum effects when traveling through a wormhole and there is no way to create a field or something that would stop those effects happening.Quote:
Originally posted by jAQUAN
Thanks to this book I understand how time travel works.
Fredi
I want a second opinion.
*still building time machine. I want to go back to December 18, 1990.
You want to help migrant workers?Quote:
Originally posted by gerbick
*still building time machine. I want to go back to December 18, 1990.
Quote:
Originally posted by Subway
Matter is not really matter after all. Basicaly it could be kind of a simulation. Just think about the quantum correlations over big distances between two particles, if one got measured, the other one instantly changes to one of the possible states (accordingly of what got measured in the other particle). Experiments have already proven that this correlation really works without needing any time at all, there is no before or after, it happens immediatly, even if the particles are miles (or lightyears) away of eachother. If something on the quantum level can happen immediatly, that meens that on the quantum level there is basically unlimited computional power, you just need to be on that level (maybe the afterlife realms) or you need to know how to use the quantum effects (quntum computing).
Do we life in a simulation? Possible. Is it simulated on a computer with transistors? Impossible from what we know.
Fredi
WOW Subs...you gonna have to explain to me your Quantum Theory..I am even thinking about going for a Physics Masters after I graduate from college ina couple of years. cool ain't it! ..now to response to your post "Matrix" anyone...sounds a bit creepy but the lines between fantazy and reality are not too far apart when we think that to make it happen we have to imagine first...
I would too.. but what if you, and I for that mater, are programmed to pick what you already picked, what if your choice is done even before you make it.."We can't never see past the choices we don't understand".. I don't know but if we live in a simulated world..imagine all the mathematics involved in it...wow It gives me goose bumps..:D can you feel the rush!Quote:
Originally posted by Subway
I would prefer god if I have to chose one on that list. ;)
Fredi
If a simulation then without an OFF switch. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by kjamx
..now to response to your post "Matrix" anyone
From all the theories of how the world could work below the quantum barrier, I think the one from Ervin Laszlo has some great potential. Here's a small overview. (You really have to read one of his books to get the whole idea)
FrediQuote:
In light of the current, revolutionary advances in the natural sciences and in the study of consciousness, the concepts of matter, life, and mind have under-gone major changes. This paper outlines some basic aspects of these changes, taking in turn the emerging concept of matter, of life, and of human mind and consciousness.
-The concept of matter.
The Western commonsense view has held that there are only two kinds of things that truly exist in the world: matter and space. Matter occupies space and moves about in it and it is the primary reality. Space is a backdrop or container. Without furnished by material bodies, it does not enjoy reality in itself. This commonsense concept goes back to the Greek materialists; it was the mainstay also of Newton's physics. It has been radically revised in Einstein's relativistic universe (where spacetime became an integrated four-dimensional manifold), and also in Bohr's and Heisenberg's quantum world. Now it may have to be rethought again.
Advances in the new sciences suggest a further modification of this assumption about the nature of reality. In light of what scientists are beginning to glimpse regarding the nature of the quantum vacuum, the energy sea that underlies all of spacetime, it is no longer warranted to view matter as primary and space as secondary. It is to space or rather, to the cosmically extended "Dirac-sea" of the vacuum that we should grant primary reality. The things we know as matter (and that scientists know as mass, with its associated properties of inertia and gravitation) appear as the consequence of interactions in the depth of this universal field. In the emerging concept there is no "absolute matter," only an absolute matter- generating energy field.
-The concept of life.
The subtle relationship between the material things we meet with in our experience and the energy field that underlies them in the depth of the universe also transforms our view of life. Interactions with the quantum vacuum may not be limited to micro-particles: they may also involve macroscale entities, such as living systems. Life appears to be a manifestation of the constant if subtle interaction of the wave-packets classically known as "matter" with the underlying vacuum field. These assumptions change our most fundamental notions of life. The living world is not the harsh domain of classical Darwinism, where each struggles against all, with every species, every organism and every gene competing for advantage against ev ery other. Organisms are not skin-enclosed selfish entities, and competition is never unfettered. Life evolves, as does the universe itself, in a "sacred dance" with an underlying field. This makes living beings into elements in a vast network of intimate relations that embraces the entire biosphere itself an interconnected element within the wider connections that reach into the cosmos.
-The concept of mind.
In the on going co-evolution of matter with the vacuum's zero-point field, life emerges out of nonlife, and mind and consciousness emerge out of the higher domains of life. This evolutionary concept does not "reduce" reality either to non-living matter (as materialism), or assimilate it to a nonmaterial mind (as idealism). Both are real but (unlike in dualism), neither is the original element in reality. Matter as well as mind evolved out of a common cosmic womb: the energy-field of the quantum vacuum. The interaction of our mind and consciousness with the quantum vacuum links us with other minds around us, as well as with the biosphere of the planet. It "opens" our mind to society, nature, and the universe. This openness has been known to mystics and sensitives, prophets and meta-physicians through the ages. But it has been denied by modern scientists and by those who took modern science to be the only way of comprehending reality. Now, however, the recognition of openness is returning to the natural sciences. Traffic between our consciousness and the rest of the world may be constant and flowing in both directions. Everything that goes on in our mind could leave its wave- traces in the quantum vacuum, and everything could be received by those who know how to "tune in" to the subtle patterns that propagate there. This assuption is borne out by the empirical findings of psychiatrists such as Stanislav Grof. They confirm the insight of Vaclav Havel: it is as if something like an antenna were picking up signals from a transmitter that contains the experience of the entire human race.
-Societal implications.
That people in all parts of the world search for a deeper awareness of their own subconscious mind may not be accidental: at this critical juncture of our sociocultural evolution it may be part of the survival dynamics of the human species. A greater awareness that all that goes on in our mind is accessible to others, and that all that goes on in the mind of others is accessible to us, would prompt us to develop greater empathy and solidarity with each other. Such felt re lations are vital not only for our personal growth and development; in our interdependent and crisis-prone world, they are vital also for our collective survival and development.
...Thankx Subs!
I guess I would have to read a whole book to because that paper was pretty much drabble slanted by an affinity for utopic systems. If you want to see a certain truth in something bad enough, you probably will.Quote:
Originally posted by Subway
If a simulation then without an OFF switch. ;)
From all the theories of how the world could work below the quantum barrier, I think the one from Ervin Laszlo has some great potential. Here's a small overview. (You really have to read one of his books to get the whole idea)
Fredi
In "Godel, Esher, Bach" Hofstadter attempts to explain (an quite successfully) that there is no such thing as a perfect system. All systems by their very existance will come around to destroy themselves. His book attempts to devise a perfect system for an artificial human and ends up prooving it's impossible.
I don't say his theory is true, I just say he comes close to what I think could be the truth. Best thing about the so called "ironic science" like Hawkins ideas or those of Roger Penrose, it gives you an idea of possibilities, even if they are not very likely, it gives you a lot of interesting ideas to think about.
Ervin Laszlos idea is a holographic field below the quantum barrier. Particles in his theory are stable vortexes on that field and scalar-waves and resonance connects everything together.
I meen all the already proven quantum effects ... every scientist just 100 years ago would have told you that it's utopic or maybe even stupid. But now we have it proven many times and have to life with it. Maybe in an other 100 years, we will have an even more "utopic" theory that got proven somehow.
Fredi
how did the Greeks know so much? - with limited/No technology!
Better question would be: "Why did the cultures after the greek thinkers stopped using their brains till about 400 years ago?" ;)Quote:
Originally posted by asun2art
how did the Greeks know so much? - with limited/No technology!
Fredi
Um, longevity. The Aztecs (up until their last few rulers) had the most advanced field irrigation system ever. It worked year round, freezing in the winter to protect the soil, and provided 4 times the needed food during the summer. I remember vaguely that the egyptians had crude plans for a combustable engine.
My point is when civilizations started living longer and increasing the population I think providing the bare necessities for EVERYone become more important, or at least paramount. The inventions were there, just in the form of sustained life.
It probably wasn't until the renaissance that minds were free to wander a bit more.
Good point. Sometimes I think the Egyptians were the most advanced civilization. We still can't make a square as good as they did.
as well as ;)Quote:
Originally posted by asun2art
Good point. Sometimes I think the Egyptians were the most advanced civilization. We still can't make a square as good as they did.
will there ever be a universal language?
7h3r3 4lr34dY i5, n00b!111one 17'5 (4LL3d l337!Quote:
will there ever be a universal language?
lol ^______________^
besides java.....