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Well, the lipsync program is complete, hooray!
I talked to Bob a couple of weeks ago and he sounded pretty busy, so I decided not to bother him with my program. That means I'm selling it myself. I'm trying to think of a good way to give KoolMoves users a discount? If anyone has any good ideas, let me know.
Hmmm... forum looks different.
Hi Joe,
Nice to see you finished it :)
A few remarks.
I tried your KM example several times but the mouth movement starts before the sound file is loaded so it's out of sync from the beginning. I think you should have used the sound.position property. To support that theory I did a very simple fps test. On my computer when I specify a framerate of 30fps in KM, the actual rate it is played by the flash player is about 25fps. That would mean if you try to sync a streaming mp3 file of 30 seconds it would be about 5 seconds off when the sound stops.
Edit:
Sorry, should have read the help file before posting this. I see you were already aware of this point.
Second remark... it would be nice if one could choose from different sets of mouth images.
Good luck with your new application and keep up the good work,
Wilbert
Thanks for trying it out Wilbert. :) Did clicking the refresh on your browser, fix the timing? Also, about adding a second set of mouth shapes, could you explain your reasoning on this?
About the second set of mouth shapes...Quote:
Originally Posted by FLASHPULSE
I must have been not entirely awake :zzz: when I first tested your application. When I reviewed the demo I thought the mouth images were also exported but I see now you have to draw them yourself. Would be nice though if it would be possible to import some different sets of mouth shapes in KM. You did a great job drawing them but I doubt if I would be able to do it decently myself.
About the refresh...
I did click the refresh button but it made no difference. You are suggesting to use a preloader in you help file. It's probably the best option but would require to embed all sound files into the actual swf file making it huge if you want to do a voice conversation. Support for streaming audio would be great but would most likely require different scripting as I mentioned before. If you use external sound files and due to a dial up connection or huge server load the sound data is coming in to slow you would get unwanted pauses in the soundfile playback resulting in syncing problems.
A little idea...
Now you are using vector shapes. Adding support for sprites like Remus used in his mortal kombat game would open up the possibility to load a set of sprites inside the syncing application and use it for more general syncing things like for example a dancing figure. PureBasic would allow you easily to load sprite images inside your application. That way a user could preview immediatly the result with his own set of sprites.
1.) I could draw some more mouth shapes for KM sometime, if this would help any. Then all you would have to do is scale them so they fit your characters size.
2.) In my own experience, having the audio files actually in the swf was best (with a preloader of coarse). Streaming would throw it off for dial-up users.
3.) New ideas are always great. I didn't go with the loading raster images for mouth shapes because this will create a bigger swf file but I might add this option later. Having the mouth shapes as vector images keeps the swf small and it can be used over and over with a different action-script. But of course, not everyone will see it my way, so new ideas are possibly new features.
I'd give a demo a try. If I can do something interesting, then anyone can.
I'm sure you can tmoore! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tmoore935
I just email Bob again asking if he would like to offer tis as a plug-in and KM users would get a discount at about half off. He's a pretty busy guy though, so we'll see what his response is.
If you (tmoore) or Wilbert create a mouth animation with Flash LipSync, send me the *.fls file and I'll email you the action-script so you can get a feel for it. :)
I just learned something. If you view a lipsync animation with just a swf file (without using IE browser) it plays fine. If you view your lipsync animation within IE browser it has to be 2 fps faster in the swf file. IE or browsers period must slow down flash a bit.
Here's a test and I had to set it 2fps faster.
http://www.flashpulse.com/koolmoves/...e_lipsync.html
As I said a long time ago, any projector works 15-30% faster than its browser plugin.Quote:
Originally Posted by FLASHPULSE
The reason is simple enough: shorter way to system resources.
And as I told you before, I expect for "Flash LipSync v2.0" a sequencer based on sound.position
Also, Wilbert's idea (a kind of sprites library) is a great one.
keep up the good work
:cool:
I plan on working on both of those features in the near future.Quote:
Originally Posted by necromanthus
Hey, I made it on the "Announcments" on FlashKits home page. :D
Well this would make life easier, maybe there should be a feature where you import your own mouth shapes. Like for TH a certain mouth piece and so on. Did Bob ever see this topic?
Curently the mouth shapes are set for Flash LipSync but when you use the exported actionscript in KoolMoves, you use your own mouth shapes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Pulse
If any KM user is interested in this, let me know, as KM users get a discount. I still have to set that up when purchasing.
http://www.diversioncentral.com/animate/flaspulse.html
This works in flash mx also
Well done, tmoore! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by tmoore935
Bob will be adding the following link to his support page. I thought I would add it here, so that way anyone who has read this and was thinking of purchasing it, gets the discount. 1/2 off for KM users. :D
http://www.flashpulse.com/koolmoves/flskmdiscount.html
30 bucks, but it's worth it I'll see if I have any money left after this purchase. I downloaded the demo version, for some reasoon you made 'c' and 'k' look the same, or is that on purpose?
If you buy KoolMoves, you get Flash lipsync for $15 USD. As for the mouth shapes, some shapes look the same because depending on how the letter is said in a word, some shapes look the same or about the same as others. There's actually only 10 shapes in the lipsync program. This keeps it simple and so when you create your own shapes in KoolMoves, you don't have to create alot of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultra Pulse
Hope that helps.