post a drawing!

I wasnt bragging, I was just explaining my life history in the arts, why anytime I share anything about myself people take it as bragging....

I have spent my life drawing, ever since I can remmember I have drawn, and I have used nearly every medium out there. for years I did portraits for a living, tattoos, and architecture, why when I say this it's taken as bragging or egotistical? Im just telling you what I did and how I learned to draw.

If you had came into my shop many years ago and saw all of my projects and work would you say I am bragging?

When my firends want a tatto and I show them some guys with tats I did on them they dont take it as bragging, its related to the topic....... your topic is about art and I was explaining my art, how this any different?

If I start posting all of my art in this thread will I be bragging? If I post my paintings and tattoos and drawings will I be egotistical? Is telling you I do these things considered bragging?

This forum is not a penis showing contest, I unfortunelty are not the best game artist in the world, but when it comes to drawing I have been doing it over 20 years steadily, saying this is not bragging its simply stating a fact.

I'll start scanning some of my smaller art, unfortunetly alot of the stuff I still have is huge, on someones body, or long gone, but I still have some more stuff laying around.

Its just that its not really a useful post, its basically a post talking about yourself and to me doesn't make much sense at all. It didn't seem like a reply to any post before it, just seemed you want people to know about your talent and your history of art, which to me and to some other people, it seems, is like bragging.

Ok, so I looked around for some of my "drawings", not to try and brag but just to try and show what I was talking about.

Now these being scanned so small dont show much of the detail, but I felt that maybie trogdor was right, and its not good just to say "I draw" it's better to stick with the topic and just post art.

So here are some sketches I have readily available in my desk drawer, that I thought were game related.

#1 These are some sketches I did for a comic book which I may actually use now for an rpg game, I have a whole slew of monsters and demons I did for my comic, but again these may come in handy for an rpg.

Story line:

Fiona Rogers had a sister and mother, but no father, one day while wanting to roast marshmellows she asked her sister to help, but her older sister was in her room being a typical 16 year old and mom was starting dinner, so she decided to start the fireplace herself resulting in the house catching fire and the family dying in short. Fiona wound up in hell and made a deal with the devil that if she went back to earth and did his dirty work that her family would be placed back, as though nothing happened, except that the fire killed fiona and not the family. After 10 years on earth Fiona met a lover, a fire fighter, he was often putting out the very fires she was starting, after a few years in love she started to rebel against satan and stopped doing his dirty work, so satan began sending his minions to earth to find and kill her, thus begins the story of Fiona at war with the devil and his minions, this is the premise for the comic/game.

Thats the short version.

http://creativededication.com/Hosting/fiona series.jpg


#2 This is one car prototype for the comic, all cars were going to be original art, this idea I got from an old chevy truck, with a mercury big body car thrown into one.

http://creativededication.com/Hosting/proto_car.jpg

#3 This just a tattoo I did about among ago, I still have the drawing sitting on my desk, I'll get a photo of the actuall tat if anyone is into that kind of thing. The guys is a real big ICP fan and wanted a tat of an original clown with an ICP theme.

http://creativededication.com/Hosting/clown.jpg

#4 I did this drawing right after 9/11. I was sitting in our local coffee house in st. louis "the coffee cartel" and a friend of mine was wanting me to draw him something, alot of people ask me to do that when I am down there, I have spent many years down there in the early 2000's doing murials in resteraunts, and worked in the tattoo parlor there when I first came back to st. louis, I used to sit down there everyday and draw, this is alot of the reason I dont have much of it around, I give it to them, but this one I kept and gave him a copy of.

http://creativededication.com/Hosting/man.jpg (some of you may seen it in my art book)

Malee

I dont know maybie I take things said wrong, I was talking as I would if we were sitting together talking about this, I was just explaining my history in art, as I would if we were having a real life discussion, just trying to explain that it takes time,a dn the steps I took to learn.

I need to work on how I word things I guess, and maybie I talk to much.....

*sigh

i don't understand this thread, can someone point out the relationship between flash and games here please?

jeez.. i wish i had talent like that. I can't even draw a circle! squares arent any fun neither. i will stick to my photoshop and flash skills.... crazy combo though.

Render,
I can promise you if you come to Japan I can introduce you to chicks as hot as that. Not that hard in a country full of gorgeous babes.

Ever,
What is bragging other than a veiled attempt to draw attention to oneself?

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What is bragging other than a veiled attempt to draw attention to oneself?

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Is that what you think I was doing,,,,,,,, seems nearly every post I make someone says something like this to me.....I try so hard to just help and talk about relative things that I experienced in my life and I try to share myself with everyone, yet it always seems people think Im bragging, being egotistical, or trying to get attention...

Please dont take my posts this way...... I dont get what I say that makes people think this all the time.

Well alright then.

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Dates are a thing with me, I ignore them..... but 80,000 claps for you! This is stunning how you have used color and shading and just bought 1 or 2 things out! BRAVO!!!!

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Yesterday was Tuesday and a week from now will be Thursday. Is this statment real?

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The statement is real yes, because you really made the statement.

to get back to the toppic ....

first the sketch:
http://blog.gamingyourway.com/conten..._070410_08.jpg

and the final rendered image (nope, it's not done with Bryce):
http://blog.gamingyourway.com/conten..._070410_06.jpg

a more detailed description can be found here

nGFX

How did you made the clouds?
What program are you using?

Very nice ! ... I found the step-by-step very interesting as well !

Now, we need an "exclusive" :) : what game is that for, and in what genre ? ;)

"This forum is not a penis showing contest"

It's not ? But I thought with it being called FlashKit... Bugger, it all makes sense now and explains the general lack of penis showing here in the past 6 years.
I've made a dreadful mistake.

Nice work olli, the images look beautiful ( I'd recommend everyone to visit the blog to get the low down and see more of these stunning images ).

Squize.

yes that is very nicely done, very impressive.

Really want to post some stuff here, but a lot of my cooler effects are coded, so I can't really show any sketches or anything. Made some really pretty units for Commando 3, but there's not much to say about them besides 'traced over military blueprints'.

Should I post something I did as part of my Art GCSE course? Nothing to do with games at all (hence me asking if I can post it), but I'm very happy with how this particular drawing came out. :)

I don't think this thread should be restricted to 'games' artwork just because it's in the games forum. Rather, I think it's a good topic for us to see the abilities of the community here, as opposed to the people who post in the Art forums.

Very nice nGFX. Really liked the tut you gave with it. Haven't had the time to play around with bryce yet, but from your pic it looks promising.

Just like veng said, I got some 3D stuff I'd like to show but sadly no artwork and it wasn't used for any games.

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Actually, he specifically said that he didn't use Bryce to make that. :p

For an idea of what Bryce can do, apparently all the landscapes and stuff in the Pirates of the Caribbean movies were made in it. 'Course, I've seen people do ghastly things in Bryce, so I guess it does take skill to use effectively.

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How did you made the clouds?
What program are you using?

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All was done in 3ds max 7 (and a licensed version it is, too), the clouds (or the sky in general) was done using a bloody expensive plugin called "dreamscape".

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Now, we need an "exclusive" : what game is that for, and in what genre ?

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Well, be patient and have a regular visit on the blog ;), the genre will be a puzzle game (but what exactly will be revieled later).
The reason I put so much work into a few screen for a puzzle game, is that wanted something visually rich (not unlike your Two kindoms/Sylvaniah, but not "handmade")

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Haven't had the time to play around with bryce yet

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nope, no Bryce has been used. I bought a copy a while back (v 5.5) to do landscapes, but I must admit I simply cannot work with that software. I really tried hard and I admire the people who are able to get something nice out of it (Though, the majority of Bryce user don't know how to use it.to :) ). The user interface is so unbelieveable unuseable for me (maybe because I've been doing 3d for over 15 years now and I'm so used to 3ds max (since v1) that it's hard to get into something like Bryce (and Poser is the same).

nGFX

I see, miss read your commet.

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I've been doing 3d for over 15 years now and I'm so used to 3ds max (since v1) that it's hard to get into something like Bryce (and Poser is the same).

nGFX

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Ya, been using Max myself for 3-4 years now. Tried using Maya once and was so confused on how things worked.

Bryce is unusable in my opinion. The interface is just... horrible.

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yes that is very nicely done, very impressive.

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Stop bragging. :)

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Stop bragging. :)

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lol. i laughed at that one. anyway, i dont see how posting your drawings on a thread named POST A DRAWING is considered bragging... but anyway, thats probably how that guy shows jealousy.....

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ah, ok ...I misunderstood :(

Well, it's been actually posted once somewhere else, but might still be relevant to the topic.

This is few steps of a concept are drawing - not perfect, but I insisted on myself to not spend more than one week-night per concept, so that's roughly 5 hours ...
I thought it could be interesting to share the process, specially for people that have not too much experience drawing : doing most of the job in photoshop is actually a great way to cut on time, if you aren't overly concerne about "style" or "the hand of the artist"

Perspective is off, but I still liked the final result somewhat, so I kept it

Step 1 - quick sketch (one of many, I couldn't actually find the one that started the "final" drawing, so I took the closest I had )
http://board.flashkit.com/board/

Step 2 - paperpen sketch
http://board.flashkit.com/board/

Step3 - Scan, and port of sketch on a photoshoped "paper" texture
I mirrored it, and erased the parts I was unhappy with
http://board.flashkit.com/board/

Step4 - working on the green glow
http://board.flashkit.com/board/

Step5 - the full color work is made directly in photoshop - here it is without the outlines
http://board.flashkit.com/board/

Step6 - with Outlines - I stopped here, because I wanted the "concept art" feel for the drawing, so I watched not overdoing the outlines, nor the colors ... it is a quick work, but moreso, it means to "look" quickly done :)
http://board.flashkit.com/board/

and this is how it will look like in game (minus the fake Libram text )
http://board.flashkit.com/board/

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"The Perspective is of.." HAHA I would taken that first picture and mailed it to Mom to tape to the Fridge!!

your mom could like amateur video game art, like I do :) and I would be honored she did tape it on the fridge :) but this said, the perspective is still off :) ...the goal of this was to say, hey guys, we all devlopp for Flash, but lets not there are other ways to render my work, that are not "that" demanding ...

:)

my point, Marchut, was to explain that because we are amateur, and because we are all most likely building a portfolio to convice companies to hire us, then, one need to be merciless on what it is to make better in one's artworks ... thats not my goal, I dropped it years ago, I do not wish to be hired as an illustrator, but, for having recruited some, I tought I could have some feedback :)

this said, if any Mom want to pin anything from this thread on a fridge, she should feel free to do so! Moms are the alphas of our Omegas, and nothign can be denied to them :D

im getting a weird feeling that you are talking to yourself since you did a triple post... or is it you dont know the meaning of edit.....

It's all about post count here at fk. Didn't you know that Sam?

HOW DID YOU KNOW MY NAME!!!!!!!..... i better start post whoring.... lol.

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haha! that would be an explaination :)

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80,000 claps for you! This is stunning how you have used color and shading and just bought 1 or 2 things out! BRAVO!!!!

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Hey, thanks!

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Post count is so over rated. But anyway this topic is getting off topic again...
In hopes of bringing it back here's concept art for my Durbell game:
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/459/durbellea7.jpg
In game:
http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/1700/durbelljp6.jpg

XPloder, you seem to be a lot better on paper than on screen. ;)

I've never used concept art (well, I drew over a tiny ship sketch once, but I only worked on that game for a couple of hours so it doesn't really count), so instead I'll show some of my paper work:

http://www.birchlabs.co.uk/CeramicOptimized.jpg

The camera doesn't really do it much justice, looks a lot better in real life. I did it as a colouring-pencil copy of a photo of a ceramic. Drawn on A4 cartridge paper (not proud of the messy gradient 'attempt' at the top, was finding it really hard to push down hard enough to make it darker) with very bad handwriting. :)

The drawing process involved lots of ruler work. I kept measuring the positions of points on the photo, using pencil to draw between the dots. After this, I progressively rubbed out parts of pencil and replaced them with colour (being careful to avoid drawing on the highlight areas).

For each colour, I had a regular, light, and dark version of it. I used these in combination. Then, due to my habit of drawing far too lightly, I had to go over it again a few times while applying more and more pressure in order to make the colours vivid enough. Finally, I used a black colouring pencil to darken some areas.

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I guess, it depends on what tools I use though.

For the rollerball concept I brought out my dusty Aiptek Hyperpen Tablet and it was sort of broken so I had to revert back to a mouse.

The Durbell - which by the way is a marshmallow mixed with gum and radioactive waste - I actually drew after I made the game and instead intended it for my Visual Basic Isometric RPG project, therefore the 3/4 view.
http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1690/durbellsql7.jpg

@ Xploder: that last piece looks interesting :)

strangely enough this is te best I could get my taco to look
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m...or458/taco.jpg
and even then i had to mess with its contrast because it looked kind of blurry when i took the picture. god, a sausage-propelled taco carried by hamburgers along a strip of bacon...

Much great art here:)

And about Poser... Horrible interface..

I've been working mostly with SolidWorks.. but thats not really targeted towards this kind of use:P

doom3 displacement test-model in development
http://www.burg-halle.de/~st2520/_dw..._mesh_test.jpg
belongs to university projects that involves historical building reconstruction in the doom3 engine. With displacemnt mapping I try to cover as much details possible on a low resolution mesh.

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Thanks, all those are original graphics by me, so that took a fair bit out of the development process.

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Hey, that looks really nice, so by diplacement model does it mean that you use a normal texture map, or is it the new technique that makes it extend out with fewer polygons?

This is maybe beond Flash currently but I made this model for my Tankwars remake, which used to be for C++. Now, ported to XNA Express. Lacks a shadow but I'm working on it...
http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7366/tankwarsvg3.jpg

If I can get the polycount down by a factor of 10. Maybe, it might even load in Flash :p

eeg, how could i possibly relate your pictures to mine? and yet i just did it twice in a row. other than that they are great pictures

renderhj: somehow the building looks soft, as if it were made from modeling clay. after thinking about this, i remembered how my taco turned out to be a soft one

Xploder: those things on the side of your tank easily remind me of hamburgers...the wheels of my taco.
oh, i also suggest defining the end of your barrel a bit better too, looks more like a cigarette at the moment.