In my appartment there are no gay people. I guarantee itewwmvw# emmm sorry for that garbage. My roommate just grabbed my ass as I was typing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PAlexC
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In my appartment there are no gay people. I guarantee itewwmvw# emmm sorry for that garbage. My roommate just grabbed my ass as I was typing it.Quote:
Originally Posted by PAlexC
I have some sad news about my roommate. I'm affraid I will ask him to move out :(
haha :DQuote:
Originally Posted by PAlexC
I think the Iranian regime is whacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by ihoss.com
But no, going so far as to say that 'one-size Western government fits all' is equally misplaced.
But claiming that there are no homosexuals in Iran is simply keeping up appearances in order to aid the advancement of governmental goals.
In the same way that there's no enriched uranium, no insurgents crossing the border, no infringement on personal freedoms or of the press.
Ok, so a government should only care so much? They should care if children are involved, but not if to men are involved? I'm not saying I disagree with you, but you are saying two different things!Quote:
Furthermore, why should anyone, or any government, care who f***s who? As long as everyone is an adult and consenting, it's no one's business to tell them what they can and can't do in the privacy of their own home or behind closed doors
No, I'm not. The difference is perpetrating a crime against another human being, versus engaging in consensual activity with someone who is able to make that judgment call for themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by ihoss.com
If two guys WANT to do each other, why should the government stop them? Who are they committing a crime against, violating the rights of, or harming by doing that?
A child, besides being gross, is unable to make that decision for themselves, therefore a magic number has to be agreed upon, usually 18, when they consider that most people of that age are finally able to be responsible for themselves.
For those trying to rationalize his statement as something less than what it is, perhaps you need to learn a little more about what goes on in Iran. Maybe you should try to answer the same questions that caused him to make that statement.
Homosexuality is punishable by death in Iran. Though, lesbians are typically whipped instead. I think it's safe to presume that he knows these things occur in his country.
So, how do you answer the questions that the students of Columbia asked? What do you think of the inhumane treatment of homosexuals in Iran? Just a cultural thing?
That's why there are probably no homosexuals in Iran, only gay Zombies. I hope they make that President's night to a (night)mere one day.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashLackey
yeah, waste of FK thread space to be debating a stupid comment like this really. he's an idiot, one of the variety of idiot political leaders appealing to a xenophobic section of the population to remain in power.
and everyone else has said enough about that me thinks.
The whole alcohol thing in middle eastern countries.. it's not taboo at all. It says in the Quran not to drink it, sure, but considering I lived in a middle eastern country for 10 years, and traveled through a whole lot of them, I think I know what I'm saying when I say that nearly every muslim I knew, nearly every middle eastern, did indeed drink.
The concept of alcohol consumption being taboo.. that's absolutely wrong.
Actually, in many middle eastern countries, it is indeed illegal to drink alcohol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibi...d_Central_Asia
So you either lived in one of the few that didn't outlaw alcohol, were granted special rights as a foreign visitor, or you were breaking the law. ;)
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Originally Posted by zakp0
you deleted your original post, odisey?
Guess you didn't go the people and stayed in the tourist areas. It's not absolutely wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by zakp0
Guess you'd know that if you'd been there. I have. And if it's mentioned in the Qu'ran, it's followed. To drink is going against that very same book.
And to bolster this whole gay issue... even the Bible has a line that says "man should not lay with man..." blah, blah. It's not enforced. And justifications to ignore that are aplenty. Same for the whole "do not eat pork"... it's in the Moses set of laws, but "struck down" with the new testament.
Whatever. I know what I've seen. Alcohol is forbidden by the holy book and by secular laws. Getting around it is not supposed to happen.
But it does. And it shouldn't.
I like where this is going...Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashLackey
hah.. i think that just proves that christians,muslims, and jews are pretty much the same people.Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick
I have yet to make it to Israel, but I'd assume it's the same there too.Quote:
Originally Posted by TallGuyLittleCar
and personally, I enjoy a good drink. So it doesn't bother me at all.
This all just leads me to believe that the truly truly devout are generally unhappy people.
If we're all going to just pick and choose what rules we'll follow, why subscribe to a rule book?
my experience has been the opposite. Although I have met alot of people that were really trying to be truly truly devout that were unhappy.Quote:
Originally Posted by jAQUAN
the only muslim nation i've been to prohibited drinking alcohol, having a dog, possessing pork or material from any religion other than islam (crosses, bibles, etc. are contraband there).
BUT, they did allow alcohol on the resorts where it could be sold to foreign tourists.
seconded.Quote:
Originally Posted by TallGuyLittleCar
the fact that people deny that homos exist or claim something like that such people should be punished with death are far more dangerous as the homos themselves.
I´d rather have some gay politicans as those uber conservative ones that take the bible to serios (or as everything)- and in reality imo. are scared of what they dont know
Gay president/prime minister would make for some sensational national holiday parties!!
Well, usually the latter comes with the former. Openly gay politicians is another matter entirely.Quote:
Originally Posted by renderhjs
Ha ha!! Especially in the UK, was just having this conversation with a couple on British mates. It's the British private boarding school thing we came to the conclusion.
;)
Im going to hijack this thread......
I met this IRANIAN girl at my school, who just came here like 3 years ago... shes gorgeous and speaks really good english... i had no idea this girl was iranian until she told me..... what i wanna know..... is iran one of those countries like afghanistan,... like where there is pretty much desert and war people all over the place? ive never been so i dono.... are the people there very religious and is it a place where there is a lot of craziness and riots?
I think the way middle eastern people and american people think is just too different... Im not sure if the Iranian president said exactly "we dont have gays in iran".... but what i think he meant to say is that it shouldnt really be an issue cause i guess its never come up in their country yet.
and i've totally changed my perspective on iranian people.... i always thought they were the girls that wore masks (theres probably a name for it) over their faces, but really i think they're just totally normal.
not to what I´ve read/ discussed with others.Quote:
Originally Posted by gshock
There are many cases where strong religios believe can end for example in sex conciliation wich then sometimes ends into homosexual or forbidden acts.
I´ve read in a article somewhere that some men in those countries really get a bad feeling just of the thought of naked female body because it´s considered as sin in their life (dot nitpick on the details here)
And dont we have the same situation with catholique priests lately like sexual abusement with children (some weeks ago news in German)- partly because sex is a sin and they force them self to asceticism. And then sometimes they just can´t hold it anymore.
My uncle is gay but that doesn´t upset me nor does it scare me or do I think he is any different. Some people esspecially men have seriously problems with the whole thing- and if I were Freud I´d propably pin that to their personal unsoved sexuality.
well i hardly met any gay ppl, but i HAVE and i dont get freaked out or nothing as long as they dont hit on me. i'll admit though, i do get some chills when im talking to a gay person, but i wont treat them differently or will try not to treat them differentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by renderhjs
ok...
gay uncles, catholiques, being suprised that an Iranian girl is pretty, etc., etc...
i'm overloaded and can't comment at this time.
AYE BAY BAY!Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashLackey
That must be some language I don't understand.
Isn't that what being devout is? Trying? No one is altruistically selfless and without doubt or temptation.Quote:
Originally Posted by TallGuyLittleCar
Its official. You're twelve.Quote:
Originally Posted by gshock
Do these people look war torn?
http://travel.webshots.com/album/551469459cCqANu
Gshock, please pleasure yourself with a cheese grater.
For the good of the whole.
Man, I'm not even gonna bother. Here people who've "been to" this middle eastern country and that muslim country seem to think they know the ins and outs of the countries they visited. I lived in one for ten years, in another for over 6 months, and in 3 others over a period of another year. I think I know what I'm talking about.
There might be laws against alcohol consumption in some of those countries, but they're EXTREMELY loose, and very rarely enforced. Infact, in the time I've been in all those countries, I've never seen one ever enforced. Hell, the cops used to sit and drink beers DURING Ramadan when the fast was broken! And so, in no way is it considered taboo to consume alcohol. No one's brainwashed out of it. It's on a completely different scale to being gay.
/me out of this thread.
hahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by zakp0
Dude, it ain't that serious.
No, it absolutely is. Someone might not take him as the authority on a country he lived in, Gerbs.
What is the internet coming to?!
You just can't spot any gay in Iran. They covered themselves in burga...
I have met a few people that are selfless and without evil or malice.Quote:
Originally Posted by jAQUAN
From birth?Quote:
Originally Posted by TallGuyLittleCar
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Originally Posted by gerbick
no... as a matter of fact i think most go through a dark path to get where they are.