So - when they turn this on - I'm guessing nothing interesting will actually happen straight away. How long will it take for them to even get results? And then do stuff with the results? Or then, start building cool stuff using the results?
So - when they turn this on - I'm guessing nothing interesting will actually happen straight away. How long will it take for them to even get results? And then do stuff with the results? Or then, start building cool stuff using the results?
The facility was designed to handle many different kinds of tests but apparently the big one will reveal its results almost immediately.
I don't think it's so much as doorway to new tech (at least not right away) as it is a clean slate on everything we know. Science 2.0?
As far as new inventions, I assume our energy crisis will look a horse and buggy compared to what we'll be able to draw energy from. We're talking future powered cars.
light sabers
teleporters
replicators
and a new iphone
I can only wonder what else.
Apparently, Hawking doesn't believe it'll find the "god particle" (Higgs boson particle).
Hell, he's even willing to bet against that.
I'll take some of that action.
This is only a small test though, the Planet-Destroying test will apparently be held next year. That is after the courts of Europe and Americas has held their trials against it.
got a link to that info ihoss?
I thought that case was already dismissed?Quote:
Originally Posted by ihoss.com
I watched a doco on this about 10 hours ago...LOL...One of the scientists involved is Brian Cox, who played keyboards for D:REAM back in the early 90's.
You can get a glimpse of him doing his stuff on a rooftop here...hope his science is better than his pop music.
They were very reassuring in the doco, they say any black hole they make will last for only milliseconds and then decay
...scientists once were confident that the earth was flat, and if you sailed too far, you fell off the edge.
david
i heard on the radio today that when the experiment is done, it could take up to 50 months for the black hole to become big enough to destroy the earth. Which brings us to about the year 2012....the year the mayans said the earth will end.
huh?Quote:
Originally Posted by david petley
This is the only reference I could find now. The way I understood it, they will only circulate protons around it tomorrow, not collide them. Then they will do another run in October/November, when they have 'debugged' it (It probably won't run flawlessly the first time), and then they will perform the first major collision sometime next spring (They will wait until after winter, because that is when electricity is most expensive, and it sucks a lot of just that). So no need to worry yet.
documentary, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by hanratty21
must be an Australianism...like what we do to peoples names...Stevo, Johnno, Davo, Robbo.
But it is well used :) these are a bunch of search result titles to show it in use...
TV Doco on Aboriginal Art at the Musee Du Quai Branly on SBS ...
Wildlife doco maker headlines Gatton graduation - UQ News Online ...
Making of MGMT's 'Electric Feel' doco - Music | thevine.com.au ...
Hot reaction to climate 'swindle' doco - Environment - smh.com.au ...
TV Tonight: Crime Investigation doco in media storm ...
Inside Film - Lionel Rose doco to premiere at MIFF ...
davidp
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Fearing that the scientific experiment to study the formation of the universe might have a negative impact on the earth, people in Orissa are flocking to places of religious worship to seek divine help.
Scientists conducting the experiment Wednesday in Geneva have ruled out any trouble but the credulous have said the experiment might bring the end of the universe.
“Some television channels have shown that the experiment may affect the earth, and we are afraid and are therefore turning to god,” Sanghamitra Biswal a housewife in Bhubaneswar, told IANS.
Biswal, who lives in the Niladri Vihar area of the city, along with her husband and three children, visited a Shiv temple Wednesday morning. She says she is also keeping a fast.
“Large number of devotees performed puja (prayers) Tuesday evening,” said Sudhanshu Mishra, a priest based here.
This could be the GREATEST STUPIDITY of mankind ever.. Trying to discover the birth of universe, these bunch of scientists may end up inventing a shortcut for the world's Death... And surprisingly if the plan worked out well, i must just say "we were all lucky"
“Some television channels have shown that the experiment may affect the earth, and we are afraid and are therefore turning to god,” Sanghamitra Biswal a housewife in Bhubaneswar, told IANS.
where as a woman I met in Teso said
"It will be fine."
just to introduce some balance.
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Published: Wednesday, 10 September 2008, 6:54AM
A controversial experiment to recreate the conditions that existed a tiny fraction of a second after the universe was created has begun.
The post-Big Bang simulation is being carried out on the French/Swiss border using a machine which cost almost £5 billion to build.
The Large Hadron Collider accelerates matter to almost light speed and then smashes tiny particles together.
Scientists at the European Centre for Nuclear Research (Cern) pressed ahead with the experiment despite warnings that it could destroy the universe.
Cosmologists think an explosion of an object the size of a small coin occurred about 13.7 billion years ago and led to the formation of all matter.
A key aim of the experiment is to find the Higgs boson, the so-called "God particle" that some theorists believe gives matter its mass.
But the experiment, which is taking place deep underground inside a 17-mile tunnel, could shed light on other mysteries like the existence of supersymmetry, dark matter and dark energy.
Some critics claim it will create "black holes" of intense gravity that could implode the Earth, or that it will open the way for beings from another universe to invade through a "worm hole" in space-time.
A safety review by scientists at Cern and in the US and Russia rejected the prospect of such outcomes.
Robert Aymar, the French physicist who heads the research centre, said: "The LHC is safe, and any suggestion that it might present a risk is pure fiction."
Professor Stephen Hawking, author of A Brief History of Time, said: "Collisions at these and greater energies occur millions of times a day in the Earth's atmosphere, and nothing terrible happens."
I'm getting the clear impression that a lot of people are getting their collective backs up due to the naming of 'the God particle'.
Which is plain silly, as this particle is only so-named as it would be the key to understanding the physical properties of matter, in as much as knowing the wider reason for our presence in the Universe would come from an understanding of God.
If Cern destroys the planet, I'll eat my shorts. That is, if I can find any atoms left of my shorts as I enter the black hole's vortex.
And as for the people who think that the $5 billion it cost would have been better spent on schools, hospitals, etc - like the money spent on this would have ended up there, anyway.
I'm into it, very much looking forward to the results. And I hope they do find the 'God particle' - it would be interesting to see what it means for our collective understanding of the Universe.
But I would say that, seeing as I refuse to buy into the complete and utter tosh flying around that claims this is the end of the world.
Mass hysteria !!!Quote:
Anticipating that the universe may end tomorrow, many people, especially those in the rural areas spent the entire day today talking to their friends and relatives in far-off places. “I spoke to all my school and college friends today, as I may never again be able to speak to them,” said Mrs Panchali Saha of Naxlabari.
With doom-mongers working overtime, many students and office-goers have decided to skip school, college and office tomorrow. Said a 36-year-old marketing manager, “Both my wife and I have decided to stay indoors tomorrow as the experiment could create a shower of unstable black holes that could devour the planet from within.”
Many shops and business establishments in the region may remain shut tomorrow as a sizeable section of traders and businessmen today admitted that they would not venture out in the open tomorrow. “I will not open my shop tomorrow as I would prefer to die at home along with my family,” said Mr Gopal Saha, owner of a grocery shop in Hakimpara, Siliguri.
an atom of hope ??
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Professor Stephen Hawking, author of A Brief History of Time, said: "Collisions at these and greater energies occur millions of times a day in the Earth's atmosphere, and nothing terrible happens."
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Originally Posted by silverx2
im so using this as a way to bang as many chicks as possible before they turn it on.
- Silver's black hole has deserted him... she wanted to be a Glory hole than stay put being a Gory hole being with him.Quote:
So you're going to get sucked into a black hole no matter what happens in the experiment.
I wonder if they made new signs for the end of the world or if they are using the same one they used last time when they were wrong?
^Good old Steve, he's always looking on the bright side. but again for balance, a woman just came into my girlfriend's shop who says she's stopping indoors for the rest of the day - that should ward off any black hole problems I would imagine.
Just heard the news that it all went fine, bugger-all happened here. look out for second hand end of the world signs on ebay.
It's not like they built this thing to do a single experiment to prove or disprove something. People seem to think that after so many years of construction, they'll turn it on for 5 minutes and prove or disprove the Higgs Boson (read: destroy or not destroy the world).
Engineering Hell... This monster machine reminds me of AS3
We can all keep up to date:
http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/
haha great link.
Today was just a test fire. Considering the amount of calibrating some of the massive printers I worked on took upon install, I imagine this one will need tweaked quite a bit. The exciting bit is that they turned it on, every part worked and it didn't break itself.
And this was worth starting a new thread to discuss the same damn thing discussed in the other thread?
You clearly don't comprehend very well KB or you would have understood that the scientific minds that could even conceive of such a machine are more fearful that such laymen exist on their planet. I'm far more afraid of god-fearing nut jobs too stupid think in large circles than I am of the most advanced and brilliant excuse to exist ever known.
thread merge please.
what would happen if we took two threads about the same topic, and merged them at light speed?
Would you settle for merging them at the f(x) = {speed of thought/speed of banning random image posters - speed of cable modem}
RAP on Large Hadron
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j50ZssEojtM
welcome to post 16 on page 1.Quote:
Originally Posted by atRax
Maybe that test this morning did do something. I'm reliving this entire thread.
eson ym fo tuo detraf kniht i hguohtla ..deneppah egnarts gnihtyna kniht tnod i wonk tnod i
Things should finally start to get interesting...
I hope.
what in the ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverx2
Ha. This thread still says hardon.
^ Are you Sean Connery?
:) your'e obviously not Leonardo Da Vinci.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverx2
david
...faster than the speed of light is my guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrismitchell
No time really to observe anything interesting that happens on the way.
Think about snappping your fingers ...faster than that thought.
david