sick dudes. sick. :yikes:
extend the rounds? i'mma post up a battle in the next few days, i want in on some of THIS action.
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sick dudes. sick. :yikes:
extend the rounds? i'mma post up a battle in the next few days, i want in on some of THIS action.
Someone missed the No Rotation part. ;)
You're forgiven.
I like your concept, but (I hope I am worthy to critique your work) the scene at the bottom seems too bright. The best way I can explain the what I am talking about, I guess, is that it looks too cheerful and happy for a image that is predominantly stormy.
I'll try to have something up by Saturday, after finals are over. (Thank god.)
Look at the original.
The sun was coming in from behind the camera, the tornado/storm front was coming from behind the house.
I darkened that part, actually; highlighted the central part(s) to go with the lightning strike.
The no-rotation part - I ignored it like you ignored your own rule of "no time limit". You'll be ok. 3 days... then my last volley.
Ah, I never saw the original. I guess it's just me then.
The no-rotation comment was all in good humor.
You should have looked at it as a whole composition as well as look at the stocks. I rarely list out all of my stocks, but I did so you could see the way I put it together.
The lightning strike, the original stock (#7) and the odd lighting of that stock and my choices were very deliberate. I appreciate critiques; I think you jumped the gun.
But thanks. And my comment was in jest as well. I just don't rely on emoticons.
Besides... always remember that in order to see a rainbow, the sun has to be behind you.
Dude, damn nice reply! The lower part screams gerbick all over the place, cool colouring, adds a nice punch to the image.
Also, loved the little detail on top, the white bird. Cool touch.
the focus on the pic is actually right down in the neighborhood. it would be better to add more textures on clouds and tornado that would make it look more dramatic overall. Not one of your best i think. The first volley was mind blowing though.
I like the last volley... hey Gerbs, where are the leaves (stock 9). I don't see them incorporated anywhere, but you may have just used it as a texture.
Bottom right, on the street are some leaves... and in the air as debris, I "destroyed" part of a twig alongside pieces of the prior image.Quote:
Originally Posted by sandyrivers
Pretty solid work. After looking through your stock resources I cleared up a few concerns I had with your drop but I'll share them anyways. For instance, the detail on the side of the white house and in the leaves of the tree to the right of the lower lightening bolt is washed out. Either use a different stock that's not already poorly balanced, eliminate these elements from the composition or instate your own detail with other stocks or special brush effects.
Something else that I am having trouble with is the strange, vaporized sheep-like thing in the middle of the bottom where the lower bolt is striking. Not only is the object indistinguishable (which isn't always a bad thing but in this case it is a focal point) but also the lightening bolt, throughout it's course from the foreground all the way up to the heavens, does not change it's stroke width at all and really flattens the entire image.
Otherwise, I am entirely satisfied with your use of typography, the texture and warmth of the clouds and the little white birdies heading for safety.
I got through today, and I have some ideas. Expect something tomorrow.
Well, I got this done sooner than I expected. This turned out nothing like it originally started out as, due to some problems finding good stocks. I like how it turned out though.
http://i40.tinypic.com/30uzct1.png
Halfway into one concept, look for it late tomorrow night.
Critique: Your usage of white space needs to be tweaked. Too much space between focal objects and text that you start to lose tension and focus. The perspective of a shadow from an object that distance from the Sun would be totally different. And you could have gone away from the trendy diagonals and used a different texture. I'm personally liable to throw random vectors into an image; however this time it doesn't just fit.
And again... the sky is just... so flat. No nuances.
If you're referring to the bird then you are absolutely right about your geometry however I'm assuming he was going for a reflection instead, considering everything else above the water was reflected. If this is the case, then the reflection is still off but not entirely. Or perhaps I'm simply disillusioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick
nice and beautiful image. From the way it looks now the bird is hovering over the island, and it is a rather huge bird.
@zac
Yes, the bird was supposed to reflect in the water-- it just ended up looking like a shadow. I simply could not seem to get it to blend correctly with the water. I ended up just blurring it, and lowering the opacity to around 60 or so. You aren't disillusioned, don't worry.
@juju
Thanks, the bird is quite huge isn't it? A pity I lost my layers or I would scale it.
@gerbick
You're right about the white space, now when I'm looking at it again. I tried the text on both the left and right sides, but it simply did not work on the right side, it was too confusing to me then, too close to the seagull on the rock.
I apparently have the tendency to choose flat sky images.
I would suggest that you go try an experiment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacaboo288
Go outside to a lake. Look at the edge of the water and look at the perspective of the reflection of things close to the edge. You will see that it "seems" to be almost up and down; the vanishing point/perspective is real tight, so it is almost to scale. Then find anything above it, flying - say a cloud, or something. You'll start to see the skew and scale alter due to the distance on the lake if it were a plane.
In that picture, it's just WAY off to the point where a mirror image sans skew and scale is just wrong.
And your comment about the "sheep like structure"... seriously dude. It's not the focus at all. Because it's at the bottom doesn't make it focus. That part trails from the focal point, the tail end of the tornado with the debris. And that lightning bolt - it was like that in the stock.
a small boat rowing away from the island, and maybe a lens flare would have spiced it up alot. otherwise i like it.
Hehe silver, I was *this* close to a lens flare, but I am not a big fan of filters-- I stopped that a long time ago. I just didn't know about it, so I left it out.
thats to bad, even without this is one of my favorite images of this battle.
like gerbick said, a more contrasting sky would have added TONS of depth to this image. all others are spot on with their comments.
Then have it your way. It was only something to consider.Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick
And as far as the bird reflection is concerned, I'm not sure if you are trying to enlighten me or just have a debate. You went from calling the reflection a shadow to trying to convince me to a take a field course on reflection. I don't know what to make of your response.
He stated it was a reflection after I stated shadow.
Thus I corrected in my latter responses.
Have it my way? Wow. I was merely pointing out something.
I beg your pardon, it just seems that you are quick to antagonize my critiques but clearly my digression is based on assumption so I'll just take a shot in the dark here.
Perhaps your tornado with debris spinning about is a compositional focal point. Something else to consider is that because of the natural cone shape of a tornado, attention is drawn downward along the contour of the twister. Well on top of this, you intentionally placed a lightening bolt at the tail end of it which brings attention downward even further. The lightening isn't just emerging from anywhere, after all, it's emerging from some object of sorts which is implicit and attention grabbing.
As far as the lightening bolt dimension goes, I know that it was like that in the stock because I checked the stocks. I just thought that's what Photoshop was for.
Yeah, maybe a lens flare may have looked good, and believe me, im not into filters either, I think they destroy images if used incorrectly, but there are millions of other option for adding a nice looking flare or any other light distortion effect other than filters. Even a soft brush overlayed on a harder edged brush can give a cool light effect, specially above water.Quote:
Originally Posted by Adobemedia
Just my .02
I'll keep that in mind next time nightwish. Thanks.
I think it's my favorite image out of my three.Quote:
thats to bad, even without this is one of my favorite images of this battle.
I progressed a lot in this battle, which is great.
If a person counters your critiques with explanations only; that's not antagonizing in the least. If I had simply said "no, you're wrong" and left it at that; then yeah. I'd understand your point of view.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zacaboo288
I did no such thing.
The funny thing though, I only offered more insight into why things were placed where, how I saw it, explained my point of view. And it's somehow whipped you into an uproar when somebody offers more information into the process that went into it?
Anything else you want to get off your chest since you've decided to be just angry about something I didn't even do or say? Seriously dude, you want to come after me for absolutely nothing but an explanation into why an image was made and how?
gerbick sucks! :)
Actually, yeah there is. I'd like to apologize. I'm really sorry if I offended you and if I was out of line then I promise it was only because I've had a ****ty week and I think I'm feeling the effects of it start to manifest through my actions. I've seen your work, you're very talented. On top of that, you offer honest, straightforward advice to others when you can give it and I think that's a great thing. You didn't do anything wrong, Gerbick, and I apologize for attacking you. If anything, I'm sure you have a lot more to teach me about graphic design than I do you, and I'm humbled when you critique my work. I hope you can accept my sincere apology. What's more, I'm sorry for drawing any attention away from the original purpose of this thread which is certainly not to propel into personal quarreling. That's not fair to either you or Adobemedia. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick
http://gerbick.com/images/deepbelowdanger.jpg
Sampled the light from the lighthouse, expanded on your bird - painted in highlights and a few other samples from your image - very sublime.
And for the record, each volley I've done was with Corel Painter X.
Zac, you're fine man. I just was taken by surprise by that outburst.
Eeek. Fish!
Very nice work there man.
Now what that image needed was a mutilated dead bird in one of the fish's mouths.
Just wondering, where did you get/how did you find the stock of the water on top? I was going to try something like that for my previous volley, but I couldn't seem to figure out the right search terms.
Painter? Never really used it. The first volley from you was in Painter too? That's interesting.
Good battle man. Until we meet again.
I know this is an old thread but Damn Damn Damn the images do not get old! sick work clean work.
Gerbick's first return is insane.
Yes it was! Im working on a battle with YBAB now been a loooooooooong long time since I have done so. I need that creative spark since i have been doing cookie cutter type images. We shall see how weak my skills have become.
Yeah, a real pity this place has died out. When it was alive it was really an inspiring and educational experience.
The closer I get to this image the more I like it. It's like you've designed it knowing it's going to be viewed with the little dark bars between the pixels. If you ever see someone with their face glued to a screen looking at this it's probs me. Gerbick for president.
HOW. DO. YOU. GET. SO. GOOD? The compositional balance is exception and just the right level of dynamics and movement to the focal points I'm finding. The colours (I'm Australian) are supurb. Only wish it maybe a bit of movement or strength to the text.