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first of all, i agree with the part of not whining here, but i don't think people who are having problems upgrading their players should be waved off like that.

personally i have tried to install the new player on 4 different machines. only on one machine, after numerous attempts of repeated deleting and reinstalling, have i managed to get ONE installed with the new player.

i have followed the instructions on how to uninstall and tried various methods that the kind people on the boards have suggested. and despite this, only after numerous attempts did i managed to succeed and i am still trying to get the other 3 updated. there must be a reason why the MM site kept sending me the r23 version instead of the r29. even after removing any version of the player, the same download problem still occurs.

true, people who managed to download successful don't usually post their success. but first of all, how many of the clients out there actually realise that there is a NEED to download the new player? and how do we explain to them when they keep gettin the r23 version instead of the r29? do we ask them to stop whining?

these are all my own opinion and honestly, i have been very impressed with mm all this while, but when it comes to this player issue, the faith is just not as strong. the player may not be full proof, it has bug .. fine. they managed to correct it after a while but now there is a problem downloading the new version??
[Edited by thenerdyguy on 05-03-2002 at 08:05 PM]

I finally resolved the issue, it was something to do with my ISP, I use Telewest-blueyounder cable service here in London, I cant remember exactly, but from what I do remember it works by the servers having their own cache where all the popular files are stored, its so that the user wont have to download all the way from other countries and can get the popular files much faster... anyway using my servers public internet-cache the I was always promoted to install the .23 version because for one reason or another the servers cache didn’t update the install file it as should by checking date number ect. I managed to get around this by switching on my poxy server settings and specifying a different cash/server to use that was not used my the majority, (I think it was their BK server)... I got the .29 version, to make sure that this wasn’t a fluke I switched it back to default which in turn installed the .23 version…

Hope this will help some of you who are stuck...

I installed the new r29 version of the Flash 6 player from MM site on the first try, but I did have to reboot my machine which I did not like. I guess I should add it to the rest of the time I have wasted following this issue. Maybe all of us developers should bill MM for all of the time we have had to spend on this issue! Wouldn't that be nice! Ha Ha

as soon as my website returns the new r29 codebase for the new player, and it installs on my client's machines, it will be just the same as installing a flash player 7....

love it or hate it, thats what's gonna happen anyway so why not now

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Originally posted by gadawg
I installed the new r29 version of the Flash 6 player from MM site on the first try, but I did have to reboot my machine which I did not like.

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http://radio.weblogs.com/0106797/2002/05/03.html#a44

mike chambers

[email protected]

I know .29 was supposed to solve this problem, but when loading swf's dynamically in a 'for loop', if the user wants to break off the stream early (i.e. switch to a different category), he/she won't be able to. This is not a problem in netscape or ie flash player 5. As I'm loading up to a 100 swf's per category about 3kb's each), this is a major problem. Any ideas on how to stop the stream would be greatly appreciated:

function loadin () {
var p;
for (p=0; p<_root.clips.length; p++) {
loadMovie ("swfs/"+_root.clips[p].id, _root.locss[p]);
}
}

as far as I know that would have been a problem in earlier version too, when you create dynamically you also have to un-create dynamically:

Code:

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function unLoadin () {
    var p;
    for (p=0; p<_root.clips.length; p++) {
          unloadMovie(_root.locss[p]);
    }
}

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Ok I've been doing flash for a while professionally, and finally I've hit a brick wall!

On the new sound object in flash MX. the book says and I quote

'Streaming sounds play while they are downloading. Playback begins when sufficient data has been received to start the decompressor. As with event sounds, streaming sounds exist only in virtual memory, ****they are not downloaded to the hard drive***.'

every Mp3 I've loaded into my player (6,0,29,0) , the mp3 file get downloaded to my tempory internet folder - so it is getting downloaded to the harddirve - surley??

second problem

If I start streaming an Mp3 and I stop it using sound.stop() I cant start it again using sound.start() - which makes the whole thing pretty useless if your making a proper mp3 player!!

If anyone has had the same problems and knows how to get around them dam, tell me cause its buggin the hell outta me!!

TAZ

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Originally posted by gutter_taz
every Mp3 I've loaded into my player (6,0,29,0) , the mp3 file get downloaded to my tempory internet folder - so it is getting downloaded to the harddirve - surley??

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it may be downloading to your virtual page file....

which is a part of your hard drive space allocated to expand the capacity of your RAM...

maybe, just maybe

I scripted an mp3 player for the site my designer's working on - he didn't trust me that it would keep playing forever so he left it on all night. In the morning our server had sent 672 mb of the same 5 files to his computer. So they can't very well be loading into memory, even if they do get saved to the temporary internet folder.

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Originally posted by sonwah
as far as I know that would have been a problem in earlier version too, when you create dynamically you also have to un-create dynamically:

Code:

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function unLoadin () {
    var p;
    for (p=0; p<_root.clips.length; p++) {
          unloadMovie(_root.locss[p]);
    }
}

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thanks sonwah, but it seems that once the loadin loop executes there's no way to stop it. Even if I unload as you suggest, the movies don't arrive physically, but their bytes keep coming, clogging up the pipe. Player 5 cut it off immediately on request, so I don't know what the difference is in .29.

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Originally posted by MikeChambers
i am not sure if the standalone will be avaliable the same day as the player, but it will be updated.

mike chambers

[email protected]

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It has been easy to get distracted from this issue with all the wonderful treats from MM lately (CFMX, etc.), but I will be needing a bug-free Flash6 STANDALONE player relatively soon (2months) for distribution of an app on CDROM that pulls bandwidth intensive (relatively) files down from an online server. You had mentioned that the player would be updated, can you confirm this at this time, and give a projected release date?

Thanks for your help.

yes, as i said earlier (and as you quoted), it will be updated.

i do not have an eta for you.

mike chambers

[email protected]

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Originally posted by gutter_taz
If I start streaming an Mp3 and I stop it using sound.stop() I cant start it again using sound.start() - which makes the whole thing pretty useless if your making a proper mp3 player!!

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Does anyone know whether there is a solution to this? Or is that just how it is? Thanks.

Dear Macromedia, dear MikeChambers, dear Readers of this thread.

After doing intense tests i have to say that the streaming bug explained before (none-termination of swfs containing streamed sounds)

is NOT FIXED for Internet Explorer 5.1.x on MAC

The condition of the test:
- a swf containing a 32kbit streamed sound was loaded into an empty movieclip.
- the test swfs were created with flash5.
- i used the latest flash-plugin 6.0.47.0 on Mac OS9.2.2 with Internet Explorer 5.1.4. and a 56k modem connection.
- i traced the connection with IPNetMonitor to see what happened.

the result:
- the stream continued after loading another movie into the clip, replacing the swf with the streamed sound.
- even a movieClip.unloadMovie(); didn't help
- the only way to terminate the stream was:
1. to change to another website (in the same window), though the stream continued for about 20sec and then terminated
2. to close the browser window containing the flash movie
- with Netscape 6.x the stream is terminated as expected
- with netscape 4.7 the stream is terminated after about 10sec

Can somebody please explain/confirm the situation?
Are there any Mac users having the same problems?

thanks

BTW, there's another BUG (?) on Mac Internet Explorer using unloadMovie();
please read "sl0thman's" problem here:
http://board.flashkit.com/board/show...hreadid=360780
[Edited by me2222 on 08-29-2002 at 12:31 PM]

to be honest i don't believe mike is still following us

Just to clarify...

If I publish a swf with Flash MX but view the swf online through Flash Player 5 on WinXP, will the streaming bug raise its ugly head ? Or will it behave normally and stop and play the audio like it should do ?

If it's the latter, I guess the solution there is to say the req. for viewing my upcoming site is 'Designed for Flash 5 (not 6!!!)' and hope my users will get the message. But that's a pain in the gluteus maximus.

evilguile is not happy about this :(

OMG! this thread is still haunting my inbox! please, everyone, let this thread die. start a new one without so many subscribers. if anyone else wants to complain, go here: http://board.flashkit.com/board/show...hreadid=296955 :D

you can't play a flash mx swf in the flash 5 player

and yes.. let the thread die.. i will go now and unsubscribe from it

yeah but i just gotta have the last word....


i gotta