Like I said, there's should be a special sit for special prize for a disabled and big passenger.
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Like I said, there's should be a special sit for special prize for a disabled and big passenger.
and with that... since it's economy seats, people should NOT be complaining. you sit where you sit, you picked the airline with that knowledge that you might be seated next to a person that might invade your space, and the people that are screaming about "fatty" this, "lose weight" that, and what not are a bit more heinous than my simple post... buy first class seats - in response to somebody complaining about a 14 hour trip alongside an obese person.Quote:
Originally posted by phlegm_thrower
think before u post... this thread is talking about the new policy on ECONOMY seats...
In otherwords... you get, what you pay for. can't afford better? tough. the people that have to buy two tickets? tough. the people that complain? tough.
I stated my take on this earlier. It's fair. don't agree? tough.
I don't think it is discrimination.
Airplanes have a VERY strict limit to the maximum weight they can be, and the airlines (cargo and passenger) do their best to come as close to that as possible, for maximum efficiency. If a passenger plane is designed for a capacity of say 300 people...is that 300 people who weigh 150lbs, or 300 people that weigh 300lbs? Thats a difference of 45,000 lbs if your math isn't so good, and makes a huge difference in terms of the loading of an aircraft.
I think the policy (on a fully booked flight) makes sense. The last 7 times I've flown myself, I've heard the announcement of the flight being full or even overbooked, so this should be a common scenario, and if this policy is in place for my safety, then hell no am I gonna disagree with it.
im sure that obese person is not comfortable overflowing to the next seat...Quote:
Originally posted by gerbick
and with that... since it's economy seats, people should NOT be complaining. you sit where you sit, you picked the airline with that knowledge that you might be seated next to a person that might invade your space, and the people that are screaming about "fatty" this, "lose weight" that, and what not are a bit more heinous than my simple post... buy first class seats - in response to somebody complaining about a 14 hour trip alongside an obese person.Quote:
Originally posted by phlegm_thrower
think before u post... this thread is talking about the new policy on ECONOMY seats...
In otherwords... you get, what you pay for. can't afford better? tough. the people that have to buy two tickets? tough. the people that complain? tough.
I stated my take on this earlier. It's fair. don't agree? tough.
you're forgetting that there's no other alternatives for the rest of us poor people who can't afford 1st class... we're not expecting any special treatment or anything like that, if a flight is not gonna be comfortable, we can accept that but at least make it reasonably tolerable...
in other words... we're saying we deserve more for what we paid for... besides... that's how services are improved, by paying attention to complaints :D
if the complaint is something that can not be immediately be done - last I checked, there is no shrink ray - then what good does it do?
btw... travel tip. 10-15 minutes before boarding, see if you can upgrade to 1st class. You can surprise yourself with doing it without a charge sometimes. You better be charming though!
Well, belonging to their frequent flyer mile club is another help too ;)
haha im a 1/2" taller and 14 pounds less! can i call you fat?Quote:
Originally posted by gerbick
hey, I'm a big guy; but I fit into a regular coach seat with no problem - without touching the armrests even. So, when they say obese, they must mean BIG people.
for the record, I'm like 6"1 and 230 pounds...
I think it's fair... but the comments in this thread, fat ass this, fattie that, blah blah... not nice.
the seats are even bigger in first class :p
sure.Quote:
Originally posted by Canadaherp
haha im a 1/2" taller and 14 pounds less! can i call you fat?
can I call you "ignorable"?
im in a bad mood and have smashed everytihng in sight for the last half hour because all my stuff in the garage just got jacked...... so i tihnk im ignorable now!Quote:
Originally posted by gerbick
sure.Quote:
Originally posted by Canadaherp
haha im a 1/2" taller and 14 pounds less! can i call you fat?
can I call you "ignorable"?
huh?
did somebody say something?
;)
i dunno... no mind right now too much adrenaline..... mad...... old instincts kicking in. feeling mello....... ok thats over..... just i can try not to think of it. try not to tihnk of it!
too much adrenaline? jog around the block perhaps?
well if noone say anything how would they know there's a problem or find out if there's any possible service upgrade?Quote:
Originally posted by gerbick
if the complaint is something that can not be immediately be done - last I checked, there is no shrink ray - then what good does it do?
last time i check, there's a lot of substitutes for shrinkray such as treadmill, stairmaster etc etc or more effectively charging 2 seats to people who as a matter of fact ARE larger than a single seat can contain.
think of it like this... small/average size guy sit next to an obese one... due to the excess of mass, the obese person is spilling over to the next seats. now that's not fair coz that means the smaller person is paying for the extra space that the fat person is taking...
dude. read my earlier comments.
I'm all for it. no need to convince me.
huh?!? :confused: so what's with the shrinkray and buying 1st class ticket comment?? i thought u didn't agree... dammit wasted my time trying to convert a believer :DQuote:
Originally posted by gerbick
dude. read my earlier comments.
I'm all for it. no need to convince me.
as much as i think the policy sounds fair at first-glance, i feel it isn't fair considering the following. yes, it is true that over 50% of the American population is now overweight (by definition over 30 bmi). the definition of morbidly obese, however, is over 40 bmi. i don't think most people start infringing on the other seat until they're in this latter category, which is a very small minority of the obese population. there is a large percentage of people in the morbidly obese category who have genetic disorders (such as familial hypercholesterolemia, a-beta lipoproteinemia, etc.). now the airlines hires workers to take care of its handicap consumers (bringing them from one gate to the next, often on expensive carts). why shouldn't they do the same for people who have serious medical conditions like hypercholesterolemia? these unfortunate folks often start getting heart attacks by the age of 25, surely we can cut them some slack on the airline seat issue, when it's not they're fault in the first place. just my 2 cents.
my comments were about the incessant complaining. It's annoying. Complaining will do what? Nothing immediately... on both sides.Quote:
Originally posted by phlegm_thrower
huh?!? :confused: so what's with the shrinkray and buying 1st class ticket comment?? i thought u didn't agree... dammit wasted my time trying to convert a believer
pheck, according to that, I'm overweight as well. But not obese. However... guess what, I still think that it's fair. Sorta like having a yard. You pay for your property. If you go over - say like a fire - you pay for the damages beyond your property line.
Anyway, back to the shrink ray/first class comments... obese people - and overweight people as well - lose weight. complainers? buy first class if you can't take it. Want an immediate solution? Invent a shrinking ray... then shrink the people down to fit. Otherwise... blah, blah, blah.
All talk, no solution. I stick with my initial words... seems fair to me.
yeah... fair 'nuff Gerb... :)
just to clarify one small point, being obese (in medical terms) is the same thing as overweight. morbidly obese is another thing.
and i certainly can appreciate your (and others') point about you get what you pay for. i just think there should be some lee-way or compassion for those less fortunate.
pheck, I agree with the compassion. I'm being a hard nose about the complaining. not the issue.
obesity via body mass index and morbidly obese... true. different. however, I swear there were 3 major divisions.
hmmmm... learn something new daily.
i know it! i was shocked to find out how little it takes to be considered "obese." a lot of my classmates who work out at the gym (weights) are considered obese by the medical definition. i certainly wouldn't call them obese. scrawny runners like myself wouldn't mind being that kind of "obese." :)