Warcraft

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Originally posted by luxregina

If one day you want to push farther the adventure of your warcraft engine, and if you look someone to collaborate with, i can count me in : i would be quite excited to work on a derivation of such a great game, and, for example, some of Two Kingdoms GFXs and tiles could do pretty well in a RTS ... with keeping in the same time that Warcraft II look and feel ...

LUX

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I see ...
KoolMoves ---> the environment
Necromanthus ---> game engine
LuxRegina ---> game graphics
Blizzard ---> just looking ...
ha ha ha
You're on my "white on-hold list"
LOL

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Originally posted by necromanthus
(...)You're on my "white on-hold list"

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heuuu ... not sure if it's anything positive though ?!? - never heard that expression before ... (though, i'm french, so english is not necessarly my strongest skill ;))

Anyway, cheers ! and i hope your engine won't go into oblivion : it is one of the most impressive i've seen in Flash so far.

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Originally posted by luxregina
heuuu ... not sure if it's anything positive though ?!? - never heard that expression before ... (though, i'm french, so english is not necessarly my strongest skill ;))

Anyway, cheers ! and i hope your engine won't go into oblivion : it is one of the most impressive i've seen in Flash so far.

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Let's put it in other way: you're on my future "white list" (something like a future "Hall of Fame") ... LOL
And about the engine: I have the PERFECT PathFinding routines,but FLASH can't deal with this huge amount of data (processsor > 2GHz is required to sustain 24 FPS).
We'll see ... next year !
cheers

Actually, we could talk about pathfinding : for enemy AI, Two Kingdoms uses an algorythm that is quite fast, that is not processor intensive, not based on a* (as speed is a big drawback ) but that works really well ... specially when a lot ( meaning 10-20 ) objects (sprites) use it...

Still working on releasing the final version next week or around, so you might hopefully see what i'm talking about soon !

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Originally posted by luxregina
Actually, we could talk about pathfinding : for enemy AI, Two Kingdoms uses an algorythm that is quite fast, that is not processor intensive, not based on a* (as speed is a big drawback ) but that works really well ... specially when a lot ( meaning 10-20 ) objects (sprites) use it...

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To be honest,I have all your scripts (LOL).
But I can't find any "enemies AI" there.
You have few predefined paths (I'm talking about those archers and wolfes) and some "pseudo-random" routines.
Warcraft is based on few "predefined targets" and a real-time PathFinding routine (a little bit buggy,I have to admit that).
But this is not the point.
The new engine is based on a heuristic algorithm (with logical trees),of course,ported on Flash (ActionScript).
I have a lot of improvements for WARCRAFT and DIABLO,but I have no time (maybe next year).

p.s.
I don't wanna upset BOB with these discussions (have nothing to do with KoolMoves),so email me or start a new topic HERE (FLASH Games).
cheers
;)

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Originally posted by necromanthus
To be honest,I have all your scripts (LOL).

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Hummm....don't know if i can be happy about that ... decompiler ? ...
Actually, you might not have them all, or old ones : wolves, archers etc are derivations of an enemy overall class : no predefined at all : the enemy spots the position of the player (if in line of sight), then does the pathfinding to that position - to avoid having perfect pathfinding, i update the pathfinding according to the line of sight, and a timer which basicly sets the intelligence/reactivity of the enemy... so it is a "real" pathfinding, only that it is not constant ( but could be )

I must stressed that eventhough i commited a lot of the code on 2K, i've worked with an OOP coder lately that reprogrammed a lot of the engine lately ...

PS -> To the mod : sorry for hijacking the thread : i subscribed to Necro forums, just waiting for the confirmation ...

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Originally posted by luxregina
i subscribed to Necro forums, just waiting for the confirmation ...

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There's no need to wait for that.
Just read your email and activate your account by clicking on that link.
;)

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Originally posted by necromanthus
What new feature do you need more ?
What do you dislike ?
Some bug ?
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i am new here but played this game last night and it's a very slow moving game, is there anyway to speed it up? also, add archers :) my footman will were killed by the grunts :( with a couple archer to back them up, they woulda won.

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Originally posted by Jeffshaw71
i am new here but played this game last night and it's a very slow moving game, is there anyway to speed it up? also, add archers :) my footman will were killed by the grunts :( with a couple archer to back them up, they woulda won.

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I'll try to speed up the game,but is VERY difficult (Flash ActionScript is not the best environment for sophisticated engines).
archers and knights are on my "to do" list (next year).
cheers
;)

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Originally posted by necromanthus
I'll try to speed up the game,but is VERY difficult (Flash ActionScript is not the best environment for sophisticated engines).
archers and knights are on my "to do" list (next year).
cheers
;)

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glad to hear it :)

Kudos! This is my favorite Warcraft version, so anything I can contribute (actionscript arena, not graphics I'm afraid) I'm game... Anyway, I'm playing without speakers, so I don't know if you have sound or not (I think I saw a note about "choppy sound") but when I went up to attack the orcish base with my little footsoldier, I noticed the orcs didn't falter a bit when they're hut caught on fire. I tried to rile up some support from the orcish rank by yelling, "We're being attacked!" in my best grunt voice, but to no avail. Please implement support for pitiful classic game lovers and their silly voices. ;)

Also, hi. You could say I'm the epitome of the concept "forum lurker." Joined Aug 1 2003. First post Feb 20 2004. Really enjoy listening to your banter. Wouldn't be able to do the measly things I do in Flash weren't for you guys (and gals) helping me without knowing it.

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Originally posted by misterjueves
Kudos! This is my favorite Warcraft version, so anything I can contribute (actionscript arena, not graphics I'm afraid) I'm game... Anyway, I'm playing without speakers, so I don't know if you have sound or not (I think I saw a note about "choppy sound") but when I went up to attack the orcish base with my little footsoldier, I noticed the orcs didn't falter a bit when they're hut caught on fire. I tried to rile up some support from the orcish rank by yelling, "We're being attacked!" in my best grunt voice, but to no avail. Please implement support for pitiful classic game lovers and their silly voices. ;)

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Hello there.
What can I say ... to be honest,I don't know the future of this flash game.
Flash environment is not suitable for this kind of projects.
The swapDepths engine is a game killer (there's nothing I can do about that).
About sounds ... I don't know who said something about "choppy sound" because there're no choppy sounds at all.
The main problem is that to get a decent FrameRate (>24 FPS),you need a top system (processor > 1.6GHz and at least 256MB RAM).
Now about "I noticed the orcs didn't falter a bit when they're hut caught on fire" ... of course: they're too dummies to do something else.
On my "to do" list are archers and knights,but to do that I have to rebuild the entire engine.
I can't predict any date for that,because the current project is out of Flash: NecroShock
Anyway,I'll keep you in touch.
:mrpimp:

This is hella good, how do you do this?
There needs to be more wood.

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Originally posted by kreazy
This is hella good, how do you do this?
There needs to be more wood.

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I agree.
But to add archers,knights and more trees, I need more computing power !
And Flash is not able to give me that ...
;)

WARCRAFT updated:
- faster engine
- the first archer (!)
- a lot of corrections

This game is not "on hold" anymore.
:mrpimp:

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Originally Posted by necromanthus

Finally,the first public preview !
It's just the beginning,so don't ask too much.
http://necromanthus.com/Games/Flash/warcraft.html
warning: "multitasking" engine !!! (not tested on entry-level machines).
Sound ON !
I need all my friends opinions & sugestions.
(I'm searching for possible bugs)
p.s.
both versions (KoolMoves & Flash MX) are developed at the same time.
cheers
:mrpimp:

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I would appreciate it if you please add more trees for the goblins i never get enough for finishing the first mission :)

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Originally Posted by warcraft_player

I would appreciate it if you please add more trees for the goblins i never get enough for finishing the first mission :)

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Check out this TOPIC
This project is dead for a long time ago.
As I said many times before, flash environment (because of its poor global performances) is not suitable for sophisticated projects.
To continue this project I need a (much more) faster environment.
Flash v8.5 is far away from my expectations, so you have to wait for v9, v10, or ... who knows.
Meanwhile, this is the "real" Warcraft in your browser:
http://necromanthus.com/Games/ShockWave/warcraft.html
new features are coming soon ...

[QUOTE=necromanthus]Finally,the first public preview !
It's just the beginning,so don't ask too much.
http://necromanthus.com/Games/Flash/warcraft.html
warning: "multitasking" engine !!! (not tested on entry-level machines).
Sound ON !
I need all my friends opinions & sugestions.
(I'm searching for possible bugs)
p.s.
both versions (KoolMoves & Flash MX) are developed at the same time.
cheers
:mrpimp:[/QUO shouldn't you add anymore levels?

Necromanthus, you should add more levels