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Way to go FI.
A leap ahead in technology leaves 2a, FlashLevel, Who's We, and other "eye candy only" studios in the dust. With XML used to drive the content, all persentation data is kept away from the site's structure. I believe this way is much more efficient than XHTML and CSS. There's no needless splash or intro pages, CSS hacks or browser troubles; just clean and dynamic Flash.
Can I just ask one question which hasn't been answered and i'd like to know:Quote:
Originally posted by FI
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"Say for example you go to a page within the site that you want someone to look at (which is often the case with sites of this type).
How do you send someone a link to that page? Or do you have to give them instructions on how to get to that page - e.g. go to site, click news, click......... etc etc."
Just wondering.
brilliant work fi, this is one of those projects with the ultimate brief, to build a heavy content news type site in flash without making any compromises, they did exactly that.
The max2003.rr.com version is only the release candidate. The final launch will boast some improvments, bug fixes etc.. but not the bookmarking system. However, features such as refer, send a link, bookmarking will be implmented in due time along with some other more exstensive goodies.Quote:
Originally posted by Olli_Budworth
Can I just ask one question which hasn't been answered and i'd like to know:
"Say for example you go to a page within the site that you want someone to look at (which is often the case with sites of this type).
How do you send someone a link to that page? Or do you have to give them instructions on how to get to that page - e.g. go to site, click news, click......... etc etc."
Just wondering.
sounds good! Lack of referral may be the biggest withdrawal of flash.Quote:
Originally posted by FI
The max2003.rr.com version is only the release candidate. The final launch will boast some improvments, bug fixes etc.. but not the bookmarking system. However, features such as refer, send a link, bookmarking will be implmented in due time along with some other more exstensive goodies.
Thank you for taking time out to answer.Quote:
Originally posted by FI
The max2003.rr.com version is only the release candidate. The final launch will boast some improvments, bug fixes etc.. but not the bookmarking system. However, features such as refer, send a link, bookmarking will be implmented in due time along with some other more exstensive goodies.
I think the whole flash and standard website features threshhold is closing. I saw a site on macromedia a while ago where the IE back and forward buttons interacted with the flash movie. Was really impressive to see!
hey david, I think the site looks and works great, it is 'let down' by its lack of deep linking/bookmarking in the sense that your average users will be a bit stumped when they refresh or bookmark and are always taken back to the front page. It's not just your site of course, but any flash site, though more people will be expecting to be able to do it on the RR site.Quote:
Originally posted by FI
but not the bookmarking system. However, features such as refer, send a link, bookmarking will be implmented in due time along with some other more exstensive goodies.
I wondered if you'd looked at the system used by teknision who have a setup that allows you to use the back button and bookmark/deep link on the site using a hidden frame. I think it's based on an idea developed by robert penner. I'm surprised that more flash sites aren't using a system like this, which isn't that hard to implement, especially when it's included in a project from the beginning.
have a look at robert penner's system, which I mentioned above.Quote:
Originally posted by Olli_Budworth
I think the whole flash and standard website features threshhold is closing. I saw a site on macromedia a while ago where the IE back and forward buttons interacted with the flash movie. Was really impressive to see!
http://www.robertpenner.com/experime...ackbutton.html
wow i never knew they actually had a system that can do all that with a flash movie, very itneresting, more companies should learn that tool, bringing flash up another levelQuote:
Originally posted by aversion
I wondered if you'd looked at the system used by teknision who have a setup that allows you to use the back button and bookmark/deep link on the site using a hidden frame. I think it's based on an idea developed by robert penner. I'm surprised that more flash sites aren't using a system like this, which isn't that hard to implement, especially when it's included in a project from the beginning.
That is a very cool find, av. But, the URL remains static, therefore ruling out the possibility linking that specific page.
edit: I downloaded the zip - Looks like there's several HTML files - but those are just used to communicate with the flash, not to hold the content.
changes for me, the teknision system, not the robert penner script. i think teknision have taken the idea and run with it, the penner script is only for the back button not linking.Quote:
Originally posted by fospher.com
That is a very cool find, av. But, the URL remains static, therefore ruling out the possibility linking that specific page.
click here http://www.teknision.com/siteVersion...#Site%20Design and you should get taken to a section within the site.
bookmarks work too. The invisible frame changes the frameset URL which in turn passes a variable to the flash when you hit it to tell it which section to show.
Really? Cause teknision stays static for me as well as the penner script. I dont see how it changed for you in the first place...different webpages holding content would rule out flash producing a smooth transition...you would see that "white flash" hence content being loaded on the next page.Quote:
Originally posted by aversion
changes for me, the teknision system, not the robert penner script.
That's amazing!Quote:
Originally posted by aversion
changes for me, the teknision system, not the robert penner script. i think teknision have taken the idea and run with it, the penner script is only for the back button not linking.
click here http://www.teknision.com/siteVersion...#Site%20Design and you should get taken to a section within the site.
bookmarks work too. The invisible frame changes the frameset URL which in turn passes a variable to the flash when you hit it to tell it which section to show.
http://www.teknision.com/siteVersion...agmic%20Gaming
http://www.teknision.com/siteVersion...20North%20Wind
etc
Av, have you got the URL to the pages Macromedia made a while ago, where the IE back button interacted with the flash on the screen?
Couple that with the teknision site and you've got everything!!!!
Ahhh, found them:
http://examples.macromedia.com/petma...store_800.html - on this one, try click ing on say dogs, then click on something in the dogs sub menu - you'll see that the IE back button highlights.
and the technology explained:
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/blueprint/
And now I see why :).Quote:
Originally posted by fospher.com
Really? Cause teknision stays static for me as well as the penner script.
Firebird doesnt support them javascript tricks.
yah, it's IE win only from what i can tell.
Since this thread seems to be going a bit off topic, I figured it would be a good idea to start a thread in the Application Design Forum to continue this conversation in greater detail.
If you have some ideas or suggestions on usability and browser integration, please go to http://www.flashkit.com/board/showth...hreadid=510876 and make yourself heard.
maybe I just didn't notice before but the back button is implemented on the site thru a similar system to penner's frameset, sorry if I seemed to be griping that it wasn't.
:)
The max2003.rr.com version already uses an exstensive back button system.
should it look like this when i click the back button??
http://www.vectorgraphics.net/images/figrab.jpg
just seems a bit odd as if you click back again it takes you to a page that you were never on to begin with.... with no option of going back further :confused: