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80% of the time playing against a dark/earth AI, the comp has 4 devourers by turn 4. What are the odds of that?Quote:
Originally Posted by sixones
And I've been tracking this too- 87% of the time a single devourer will eat whatever quantum you have the least generation of. :crazy:
Yes, to some decks that is very devastating, to others, not so devastating.Quote:
Originally Posted by krazykraze
To some decks, YOUR deck is very devasting, to others, not so devastating.
To the denial deck, some decks are very devastating to it, to otehrs, not so devastating.
Decks have counters. Just because it counters some decks doesn't mean it is super overpowered. It has its own counters too. Which I have a feeling are going to be growing very fast soon.
That is because the RNG (Random Number Generator) in this game has problems from what I've noticed with just about every part of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by marauder68
Alright guys :D Chill out. Seems like a heated debate LOL. honestly, I think you guys should just settle this dispute with a duel. Dark/Earth versus Aether, best out of 3.
Then we can see who's right, and whoever loses has to accept they're a dumbass lol
This made me LOL though.Quote:
dimshield is basically wasting a card advantage to buy yourself 3 turns you don't gain anything from it really except 3 turns of safety...this may sound good but it is not in reality because first of all u waste a draw for it which is equivalent of it lasting 2 turns and 2ndly it has a high mana cost which can be used to summon another dragon...
AFAIK there are no known effective counters for dark/earth right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by sixones
Alright guys :D Chill out. Seems like a heated debate LOL. honestly, I think you guys should just settle this dispute with a duel. Dark/Earth versus Aether, best out of 3.
Then we can see who's right, and whoever loses has to accept they're a dumbass lol
This made me LOL though.Quote:
dimshield is basically wasting a card advantage to buy yourself 3 turns you don't gain anything from it really except 3 turns of safety...this may sound good but it is not in reality because first of all u waste a draw for it which is equivalent of it lasting 2 turns and 2ndly it has a high mana cost which can be used to summon another dragon...
Correction, it's a +1 card advantage at best. You play a devourer (-1 card), you get an extra quantum per turn just like a pillar (+1 card) and the opponent loses one quantum per turn as if they had 1 less pillar (+1 card).Quote:
Originally Posted by krazykraze
However, there are a couple problems with calling it a +1 card advantage. For one thing, many decks don't actually need all the pillars they carry, so you may swiftly reach a point where your devourer(s) won't actually have any meaningful impact on your opponent's income; at this point you're just getting +1 darkness per turn but your opponent is not actually affected by loss of excess quantum, so basically your devourer turns into a plain old pillar. For another, any source of rainbow quanta is going to screw with your devourer strategy. A rainbow deck that relies on quantum pillars is getting 3 quanta per card, so your devourer is only +1/3 of a card advantage against rainbow decks. Nova/immolation cards splashed into decks that only use a handful of colors can screw with devourers a lot; if your deck uses 4 colors, then every nova you play gives you a buffer of 8 extra useless quanta that devourers will randomly drain away, again lowering the card advantage.
It's still a powerful card, being so fast and inexpensive (fully upgraded black decks usually get them out turn 1, which is pretty sick) and relatively difficult to directly counter if they can burrow--but supplying both darkness and earth quanta makes your deck less efficient, meaning you often need a bit of card advantage just to catch up.
We are talking about which deck are overpower here and obviously best of 3 doesn't work because of the luck involved, but i say D/E will win definitely in the long runQuote:
Originally Posted by Disaru
and I know i probably put the 3 turn safety the wrong way but ppl can easily deflag and steal the shield and use it against u
No, we all know that dark/earth counters mono-aether.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disaru
Again can any1 suggest a direct counter to dark/earth like how gravity **** up aether?
My rainbow deck. Devourers can't eat quantoms fast enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by krazykraze
no rainbow is not a counter because EQ can mess u up just as badQuote:
Originally Posted by sixones
Thats why I never lose to it, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by krazykraze
lol first of all i don't believe youQuote:
Originally Posted by sixones
and 2ndly if you put it that way, rainbow is the counter to all colors so it is not really a direct counter to anything
at this point i primarily use QPs, and all 12 colors (finally found a good use for entropy), and it's doing a pretty good job of discouraging me!Quote:
Originally Posted by Disaru
I'll be honest. My rainbow deck wins 95% of the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by krazykraze
With a 60 card deck though I get some bad starts and no pillars.
The flying weapon card is listed as costing 1 air quantum.
The animate weapon card is listed as costing "1", but on the wiki it is listed as one air quantum.
If they both cost one air quantum each, then how are they different?
Mainly I want to know if the animate weapon card just costs one quantum at random
http://img16.imageshack.us/i/flyuingweapon.png/Quote:
Originally Posted by Roisen
http://img16.imageshack.us/i/flyuingweapon.png/
image at link above
The Elements game Animate Weapon is showing correctly, the wiki is just in error then. It is to free flying weapon decks from being hooked onto the Air Mark... (for a price of 1500 per upgraded Flying Weapon, of course :eek: )Quote:
Originally Posted by Roisen
--rob77dp
Exactly what I was hoping to hear. thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by rob77dp
Found another Burrowing bug...
When you cast Gravity Pull on a burrower (in this case, an Antlion), and it later burrows, not only does the Gravity Pull icon vanish, but the spell effect is cancelled as well.
I am speaking from memory here, but I seem to recall this coming up before to Zanz and he said it was intended... but after I think about it, that doesn't totally makes sense for it to vanish - only for it to suspend while the critter is burrowed. When I use Time/Earth, my Shriekers can burrow to knock off the Grav Pull and pop back up healthy after...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubber Rodger
--rob77dp
Also, I have to complain about Miracle (the god). I've now "randomly" fought against it 3 times in a row now, each time doing at least 400 damage. This last game I did over 700 damage and still didn't win. I think it has too many improved miracle cards!!
Is the Nightfall/Momentum/Mutant burrower bug than also intended, rob77dp?
The one where a burrowing creature loses odd-numbered attack points when they burrow and come up again, but double the effects of attack points gained while burrowed when they unburrow.
I think that is in error but thought I remembered Zanz fixing that? So many bugs and fixes and blah blah - I can't keep 'em all straight as it is just by memory - sorry Rodger...Quote:
Originally Posted by Rubber Rodger
--rob77dp
bug: arsenic cannot be stolen?
(may be lag-related, but always seems to be affecting arsenic specifically)
Can anyone recommend a money farming deck to try and make?
Two ways to beat Miracle:
1. Put out about 20-30 damage out on the table and wear down its health to where it's about 2 turns away from dying, then drop a bunch of high damage creatures out at once to kill it in one blow (Parallel Universe on its biggest dragon works, or on your own biggest creature if you've got 20+ damage creatures also). Alternately, if you have a lot of direct damage (firebolt/drain) you may be able to use that, but Miracle usually puts out jade shield so that's not reliable at all.
2. Boost your damage output until you're doing 100+ damage per turn. Preferably, 200+. Dive/Parallel Universe works beautifully here, although every other level 6 deck has creature control that will make a dive/PU deck pretty crappy at anything other than farming Miracle specifically. (But if you don't have any Miracle spells of your own, putting together a dive/PU and hunting for Miracle matches is probably about the fastest way to get them.)
I didn't realize that the AI would actually take into account how much damage I was doing before uising miracle. I assumed it always used it when it's health dropped below x amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by ggabriel
At the end of the match I was doing around 90 damage per turn, but it was just pulling out miracles every other turn. Very frustrating (although probably not as frustrating as not being able to attack me for 18 turns, but that's not important :) )
http://board.flashkit.com/board/show...postcount=1542Quote:
Originally Posted by velz
When will we get a dedicated forum so we can track things like this?Quote:
Originally Posted by rob77dp
I consistently beat the miracle god deck using darkness/gravity. With Gravity shield and Otyughs it does absolutely no damage to me, and vampires keep my health up from its weapon. I either win it outright or it runs out of cards, either way its a very consistent win.
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Originally Posted by rob77dp
It was still there this morning. I got a mutant with burrow and a 3 attack value (I forget the defense value). It burrowed, becoming a 1. When I unburrowed it later in the game it was a 2.
Kind of like the time I got a mutant graboid with burrow as its' skill. All it could do was sit there since graboids are already burrowed when played.
hi, Ive been playing for awhile and want to ask something...
what about a limit for rare cards of the same monster on deck, and limit for shields and swords too
have seen lot of dumb decks filled with rares, looks like they "won themselves" to get all that cards and a limit would be nice to improve the strategies
ie: 3 levels of rarities, level 1 can have up to 5 cards of that rare card, 2 only 3 (total of level 2 rarity) and level 3 only one per deck (no more than one dont matter the type)
I think this game is pretty great but I think Dimensional Shield and spamming devourers are too cheap. They should either have lower effects or have higher costs. Thanks.
"joe=dumbass" submitted a score of 999995 about 5 minutes ago.
He must have a 1337 deck huh?
I love how you keep sticking your foot in your mouth and showing that you know nothing, yet you keep on yammering nonsense. I don't play mono-aether, nor have I ever played it. EQ is still overpowered.Quote:
Originally Posted by sixones
What an enormous amount of text to contradict an obvious exaggeration for effect. Of course EQ doesn't make every possible deck better. It makes 95% of decks better. But what's even better is that you use an example of a deck that EQ improves to show that it doesn't make all decks better! Please, learn more about this game, then come back and join the discussion.
As far as your contention that EQ to be "an enormous juggernaut", I challenge you to quote anything I said that infers such an idea. I think it is overpowered. That's a far cry from the OMGEARTHQUAKESUXXORSYOUGOTTANERFITORIQUIT attitude which you and six keep trying to paint me as having.
I'm not sure who appointed you the EQ-safety police; perhaps your balls just start to hurt when you think about trying to design a deck without it. Regardless, I won't be playing any more unless it's nerfed. You're welcome to disagree with my opinion as much as you like, but it won't change anything.
Thanks for the response!
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Originally Posted by ggabriel
Well then, it's done it's job. I don't want to use my mono deck any more, and since all I want to play with is my mono deck, I won't be playing any more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Disaru
Personally, I can't see why Zanz would want a card that discourages people from playing his game, so I have a hard time believing that this was the point of EQ. But, que sera sera.