hi there,
just wondering (I must admit I haven't taken a very good look, but I'm lacking time...)
is this thread only for .swf performance? or also for mx?
'cause on a mac that wasn't designed for mac Os X it runs as slow as it should run on an LC II but not on a G4 dual...
robin
Flash Player performance on the Mac, it started when we were still on Flash 5, now it's with MX.Quote:
Originally posted by linckx
hi there,
just wondering (I must admit I haven't taken a very good look, but I'm lacking time...)
is this thread only for .swf performance? or also for mx?
'cause on a mac that wasn't designed for mac Os X it runs as slow as it should run on an LC II but not on a G4 dual...
robin
ok, thx
I've got no probs with the player (yet ?),
but for those who've got problems with the app., perhaps you can take a look here and post your findings...
slow flash mx thread on actionscript.org
friendly greetings and good luck
robin
line of vision media design
yes please
Ive been trying to get them to fix the PC player for years now.Quote:
Originally posted by SJT
Dear Sir/Madam,
This thread has been started to allow the Flash community to voice it's opinion over the poor performance of the Flash Plugin and Player for Macintosh.
We respectfully request that Macromedia make immediate improvements to the Flash player, to the end of matching it's performance and abilities to the plugin and player for PC.
Sincerely,
Please sign the petition ONCE only, keep your comments polite and relevant or they may be deleted. This thread is going to be sent to Macromedia
I know mac was terrible, but since mx was released the player lost almost 34% performance on the pc format. Mac improved slightly for the mx release.
I will be meeting with the Macromedia flash dev team quite soon and this issue is top priorty for me personally.
:D would be nice.... so count me in pls...
ShOTEyE
AFP
signed.
.. as it seems to be, all macWorkers have to switch to OSX one day ...
it would be really great to have a better player then, because the performance of flash content on any given OSX browser is soooo pooor - that seeing my work on OSX just makes me sad - and developing on OSX is kind of painfull as well ...
in fact, the poor performance of the player is very sad for the increasing number of OSX users arround the world ... I can't imagine, that MM wants to eleminate their format from this plattform
still using FL5 on OS9 to make a living...
I hope everybody signs in !
I do !
I am a new user of Flash. in my first project I have run into this problem of the Mac and Windows players not having performance that is close enough so that i have not had to create a custom version of the project to publish a Mac Player to go along with my Windows player.
( reading the thread backwards )Quote:
Originally posted by SJT
Well that's the point, they do recognise that there is a problem but want examples of things that developers know are specific problems so they know where to start looking for a fix.
.. I don't really see the point of sending in exsamples ...
is this a move to calm people down ??...
I read several threads at apple forums and MM forums about this performance issues on Mac ( MX and the player) lately and there were a lot of pro workers complaining... are these flash experts all caught in a dream ?? ---
there is just one simple thing to do :
take a given flash movie based on a bit of actionscripted animation ( for exsample including the nice spinning objekts around programmatically swf by collin moock from moock.org code depot) and fire up a mac with osX running the player in any given browser, and beside that you run an equivalent or even midrange PC.... hit the enter butten to load the movie simultaniously and off we go ...
everybody would see the difference...
the funny thing is that on osX the frame rate gets a bit better, when the content is savely cached by the browser and you rewind the movie and watch it again... during download aktivities in the back it's a mere catastrophy...saying this, a good thing to test is streaming audio during site playback : that knocks down the frame rate perfectly ...
for better controls it might be nice to integrate mr moock's framerate calculator ...
how about this ?
greetings from france ... and onwards
Yes, count me in as well,
I totally agree about the Flash Player on Mac can be unstable at times. Time to time you can't open swf file on its own, unless the Flash application is on. Hope the Macromedia can improve its shortage
Every Flash programmer that I know uses a Mac.
I hate having to show clients my work on my computer and then explain that it will look much better on a PC!
For those who think the player works fine, check it out on a high-end PC... huge difference.
Everyone seems to know & acknowledge the mac player is total crap except Macromedia.
i'm in.
Surely there must be a more 'official' petition, say on the macromedia msg board that they will pay more attention to?
X-platform compatible swf's now there's an idea....
:D
Please please make my mac less frusterating!!!!
Signed
yes, i am sick of viewing painfully slow flash apps on the mac.
My 333Mhz pc laptop still runs flash quicker than a dual g4.
O well, Howard.
ehhm, how long will this go?
whats the goal??
i already signed
Whenever I make an animation I am blown away when I see it on a PC. It's so much smoother and so much faster!
Overall I'm frustrated with the behaviour of Macromedia products on the Mac. I'm not talking molasses but compared to running the ap on a PC —_It's agrivating. It's like I'm working on a 5 year old machine. a 3-5 second delay for every action adds up.
for the record I'm running Flash MX on a T1 with OSX and Flash MX on a Dell running winXP. By all accounts the Mac is the more powerfull machine. (I'm not evangelizing, in my case the Dell's processing numbers are lower than the Mac)
So what's up with that?!
Ditto to what Franclin said.
Add me to the list...Mac users need much more attention from the Macromedia developers.
True .... true.
Sure will 100%
Macromedia only cares about MAC user to buy the Studio MX and get the money i GUESS !
1. They also neglected Coldfusion out Studio MX bundle
2. Flash player among many other problems its too slow on the web IE and some time NS don't even play actionscript or animation heavy sites
3. They ought to Fix the complete full version including Coldfusion and distribute it to mac user as an update STUDIO MX.
at least for good sacks
they are the one to realize that enough is enough "period" too sad that we have to tell MACROMEDIA about wel known problems missing parts.
May be we are barking up on a wrong tree
Think of it buying an ACURA WITH OUT transmission! dah.... unfair.
Pick up the speed please.
Kyle
Can you tell if there care? I missed so many cool site which are animatiom,actionscript and component heavy..
Do you know if any one from Macromedia had contacted this forum recently?
I have been sending one Mac gig's and strong Macromedia product user's concern to Macromedia Canada. em crying they do not answer me:o why????
I've just posted a question concerning why my flash projector was performing soooo badly on a mac...I guess this answers my question.
It sucks if you are trying to give a client a demonstration on a Mac, it just doesn't do your work justice!!
I totally agree with this. I am a graphic designer so I naturally use a mac. This means a lot of the people who view my work will also use a mac thus making my work look potentially pants!
Also I am not in a position to buy a PC on top of the Mac I have which means I can not play any online flash games etc - bit unfair I think!
It seems a bit rediculous that such a great package is being made to look so basic on the machines used by a large proportion of the creative professionals??
Mark
www.mark-richardson.net
make the other one faster too!
furthermore i say this;
as a group we should agree to not buy ANY macromedia products until they have addressed these issues. let's face it mx is window dressing. if i said you could have a flash player that was say 5 times faster than the current one OR the mx enhancements. which one would you take? how about we start exercising our influence as customers. stop the crap. make it faster not prettier!
http://www.markme.com/mwilliams/archives/2003_03.cfm
Either a slip by one of their developers or Macromedia "officially" acknowledges a problem.
However, it doesn't seem like their pouring their resources into it. see Scott K. post.
XML functions don't work in the Flash Player on the Mac
Try load and sendAndLoad. Both fail.
They work JUST FINE for me. :)
That's all. Using Flash more and more...in a Mac environment.
please make it multiplatform once x all .
thanks !!:mrpimp:
Please sort this macromedia, it saddens me so much and it is so frustrating to find your site plays back painfully slow on mac, and perfect of pc! how can this be!
Count me on the petition.
Better vector display would be nice too.
Signed,
corian
Count me on the petition.
Better vector display would be nice too.
Signed,
corian
Count this as my SECOND post.
The flash player on macs (even dual G4s) makes me SICK compared to PC's.
Why should any more graphic designers, most of whom work on Macs, shell out 500 bucks for software that works half as well on a PC?
Yeah. It’d be sweet if they’d would improve it. The app and the player....
I love Macs and I love Macromedia. But I was really bummed to see how Studio MX ran on my Dual G4 (OSXJag)...and you can’t place the actionscript window in any of the panels...it just floats around...and if you get sick of it and close it takes like 12 seconds to open it again...sucks...
And don’t get me started on Dreamweaver...they shouldn’t even call it MX on the Mac.
It doesn’t have the MDI (Multiple Document Interface) thing like PC’s. It’s all floaty and stuff...like the old one...total rip off.
...could almost make you ‘switch’ back.
Heck I’d even gladly pay for a Mac upgrade…like ten bucks or so...