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Ja, aus Dortmund.Quote:
Originally Posted by dudeqwerty
I hope we'll win...Not that I support my country but I just don't like the portugal and italian team xD
France were lucky to beat Portugal. Questionable penalty - Henry sure has learnt the art of diving now. The entire game was controlled by Portugal. Cristiano Ronaldo the greatest actor in the present game was brilliant and troubled the French at all times. If only they had a good forward upfront the Portuguese should have won hands down.
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FINALS - ITALY vs. FRANCE
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Whom you betting on ?
you try getting your foot caugh on something/someone when you change your momentum.Quote:
Henry sure has learnt the art of diving now
im glad portugal didnt win, Scolari is a bad infulence on the team, hence all the foul play.
i think france will win, i hope they do.
I agree, it was definitely a penalty, unlike Ronaldo's swallow dive. Portugal may have controlled the game, which is debatable, but they could have played all night and wouldn't have scored.
Earlier in the thread someone wanted video evidence that the Portuguese dived. Plenty of evidence of that last night.
I actually think that France can win the cup. At least I'm hoping that they will win!
I think Italy will make it. They beat Germany, they will beat France. France seems to have only one good player if one follows the reading.
It will either be an amazing match with end to end attacks... or it will be a stale mate... as both teams are fairly evenly balanced...
Fingers crossed its the first and its a game to remember.
I hope the refs keep their cards in their pockets too... no more of this stupid 16 cards in one game crap.
Itaky has bigger amount of luck but i think that we'll be looking forward a great game... i can hardly wait the final match up. And TOMORROW is my LAST EXAM !!! Yeeeee.... Collage here i come :) weeeee....
Can't they just ship him off to Real Madrid where nobody will ever hear from him again?Quote:
We played well and did our best but the referee didn't help us. Everyone who saw the match could see that the referee wasn't fair.
He should have shown yellow cards but he did not because Portugal is a small country. We just have to carry on working and then we will be a big country.
Portugal showed that they can play good football. France were no better than we were. They got a penalty but not much else."
Christiano Ronaldo
http://www.world-cup-blog.co.uk/ref-wasnt-fair-ronaldo/
It's just pathetic isn't it? I don't think I saw one match where people weren't diving but the Portuguese were by far the worst, followed by Italy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Napalm
It's just so stupid that FIFA does nothing, they're making a joke out of the game. Look at this video, the ref signals to play on dive after dive, yet if he's seeing people dive why isn't he sending them off?! As well as better refereeing FIFA *have* to review international games and ban anyone who was diving, no matter what the referee's decision at the time. It's bloody obvious when someone dives, it would be so easy to discourage diving by handing out bans.
Im not just saying this because England lost, I saw more than one England player take a dive during the tounament, but it's ruining the game, even when the referee ignores dives and plays on it interrupts the whole flow of the match.
- Could'nt agree with you more. FIFA definitely has to hand out Bans, just as they did to the Italian who elbowed against the US.Quote:
FIFA *have* to review international games and ban anyone who was diving, no matter what the referee's decision at the time.
Maybe they can suspend him for the next match or two or entire tournament depending on the degree to which he has cheated. This way he will be officially labelled a Cheat and that should certainly deter the players from doing it.
Great game and Germany won diserved. Great referee. He did not believe many of the fouls. I am not the patriotic type but this time I have to say i am proud of my country, great atmosphere, good organization, great hosts and all those Neonazis slapped in the face.
im very dissapointed,
zinedine zidane, what a disgraceful way to end an amazing career.
france were definatly the better team.
I totally agree. To end his career that way... Very sad and disappointing.
It was a great match though. Italy played best in the first half, but the second half and the extra time, France was best, and maybe they should've had one more penalty shot in the second half. But a great match!
Fair result considering the Zidane penalty was no way an actual penalty! I think Italy deserved it, I've enjoyed watching them the most out of the whole tournament and to rise above all of the scandal back home regarding match fixing and such I think they've had a really admirable tournament.
Well done Italy.
Agree, they also played fair soccer, against Germany, too.Quote:
Originally Posted by j_hunter182
Resolved!
Zidane's penalty was correct! And they should have had one later anyway, so it was ok.
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Originally Posted by MagnusVS
What an ending Zindane could have had if he'd scored that header, it had some power in it!
Ah well...
iiiitaaaaly!!!!
take that you frogs!
*so lording it over the nay sayers tomorrow*
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Zidane-big.gif
he must have said something rascist, he didnt complain after he got headbutted.
I doubt he would complain, the entire italian team must have been so happy to see him go off. Wtf was Zidane thinking! It's worse than Beckham's notorious kick that got him sent off. No matter what was said you don't lose it like that in the world cup final, especially at that point in the game and his career.
And if you're really seeing red so bad that you forget all about your situation, your country and attack another player why would you headbutt them in the chest?! Could he not reach the guy's head? Such a weird incident, and such a shame.
Does anybody know which referee that watched Zidane do this? Because the one on the field didn't see it, and he didn't get the card until after 1 minute later or so... It was a strange situation.
i think the 4th official got some video footage, or saw the replay on the big screen.
but thats just my guess
Yeah, I thought that they might see some replay too, but I don't think they are allowed to use video footage as reason to take decisions during the match...
The linesman saw it, the referee talked to him for a good minute before issuing the card.
so there's a conspiracy to why he did that, or to how long it took for him to get a card?
I think the issue is with how the referees decided on red carding Zidane. Was it because a referee actually saw him headbutting, or was it from the video replay. At the time, because no referees were near Zidane it "looked like" that no referee saw him and that only after a referee glanced on the video monitors for the fans, did they saw what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick
As the other poster above pointed out that a referee did actually see him (a linesman), but at the time, it made you wonder as it was very unclear and open to interpretation.
The question is, whether France had won with Zidane. May be they had to flip the coin.
Generally, I don't like this glorification of a single player. May be that went too much into his brain. It is the team, which wins and not one player.
The Portuguese do seem to play a fairly dirty game. The funny thing is in my Xbox game Fifa World Cup, Portugal has committed the most fouls out of any other team lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by aversion
So what is the deal with all the diving this cup? Has it ever been this bad before? It seems to be a major issue here and to be honest I think it is turning the game into a joke. I don't mind the diving so much but to see all these players carried off on stretchers to the sideline, then immediately get up and run back onto the field, well it's all very silly.
And now Fifa wants to change the rules to give out more cards per game, seems to me that will only make matters worse, why don't they just give out less cards?
It's not been this bad before, I think this is the first world cup where diving became an 'official' strategy of many teams, some have admitted as much. They see other people cheating and getting away with it, getting penalties or match winning opportunities from diving and they know they either follow suit or suffer.
Basically it's because FIFA haven't done anything effective against the practice that it's become endemic to the international game. Without consequences - in the last few matches we've seen referees ignore obvious diving rather than hand out cards - there is no reason for players to not try it on and even if they don't get away with it they're not being sent off and they're interrupting the flow of play.
...but I also see the excellent referrees recognizing diving or even it is a foul, which they cannot really evaluate they just let play.
Sometimes I have the feeling they do it to get a break. Think about a big soccer field and you need to run, concentrate, fight with others and kick a ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by aversion
I am playing a bit soccer for relaxation, but just running 10 miles is much easier.
Thanks for the explanation Aversion.
Does anyone know what was said to Zidane to make him head butt the Italian?
Must have said something about his mother lol.
wait, I justed watched the replay again. Did he give Zidane a titty twister?
It's funny to see when a football player is badly hurt, all he need is a sponge with some cold water on it... The doctors can really learn something from football!:D
hahaha Yes! :D And a wedgie :D (thought I was the only one that saw this!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Visionray
Zidane still gets the golden ball award. Its a farce that he was sent off because the 4th officials saw the video replay on the big screens.
Yes, he should have gone off for that, but as they don't use video evidence in footy, the officials can't send him off for something they haven't seen!
I bet their manager was kicking himself for taking Henry off just before!
Players don't dive to have a rest :rolleyes: you must be a girl... :D Players dive because they feel they can get an advantage/score a goal...
Fifa should start using video evidence and after match bans. Sit down with the ref and watch the match, if he's missed something in the game, issue a yellow/red card to a player afterwards.
Players like Ronaldo should be banned for a season for such blatant cheating.
He wont ever play again in the Premiership and rightly so. Any dive he took in future, he would just be sent off for. We've all seen the evidence, its right before our eyes, there are no funny camera angles, no special effects. He is a cheat and should be punished.
I didn't say they dive to get a rest, see above ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Markp.com