Gun Control

It's really sad that I see this as other non US members pointing to the US and trying to say "Look!!"

...when they have more corruption and murder in their country that any other...

Let me say this, if you hate MY country so bad......give up the computer that WE designed. Stop using the Internet.....that WE developed. Stop wearing the clothes that WE conceptualized. Stop trying to be like US "westerners"...

Let's face it, every country is corrupt, well, their government is... All of you.....**** it.....turds......pointing a finger at us need to stand down. Remember that you would be less without the 'blessing' of the US than you are now. We send out Millions of dollars to all of you countries via gifts from private citizen that NONE of you appreciate. And a simple thank you will not do. There are some of us that care about the world and what is going on in it. It's just a GOD DAMNED SHAME that you can't fathom what you are getting from "the great oppressors".

Let me just say this, you love your country.....****ed as it is... you see past it's faults...

Now, tell me... Why can't ALL OF YOU see past ours'? And by 'ours' I mean one man's vision of idiosism <-- my new word...

Tyrants are world-wide, and quite frankly, I hate all of you for pointing your dirty fingers at my country, I am sick of it... thoroughly sick of it. SA kills more of it's own people than any other country in the world. We called that genocide a "few" years back...

Nerds and politics.....kinda like Gods and plebs...

thats not such a bad idea, without computers there wouldnt be internet crime.

India and Russia are both vying for top spot in SPAM...

I think we should just stop producing bullets...down with bullet manufacturers!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by creativeinsomnia

I think we should just stop producing bullets...down with bullet manufacturers!!!!!!!

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/pistol whip

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Originally Posted by EVPohovich

Let me say this, if you hate MY country so bad......give up the computer that WE designed.

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You need to study your history. You know who charles babbage was?

Alan turing? No?

Please do your research before posting arrogant and uninformed crap like that.

Personally, i dont think there are enough guns in the US.

designing something, and actually creating something that works are differnt things.

babbage had great ideas but he couldnt get the job done.
turing stole all his ideas from al gores grand father.

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Originally Posted by gerbick

It's so easy to be a critic and never fully commit to anything other than a nebulous "point" that really just can be relegated to a simplified "finger point" and an evasive language that really answers nothing, solves nothing, says nothing.

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You've just made your point very well.


I don't see anyone making any suggestions they hate the US. I don't see anyone balking at discussing any issues in their own countries. All I did see (before the usual defensive posturing) was a discussion about an issue that was very relevant due to an unfortunate recent event in the US.

Next time we have some event in Australia that could have been influenced by something - and that anyone here is actually interested in discussing - you'll find me all ears, and not taking any offense at anyone's researched ideas or suggestions, even if they oppose mine (which, if critical of the Australian government, is highly unlikely).

Actually gerbick, this time you can take credit: Until your post (closely followed by EVPohovich's) I thought this discussion about a very passionate and controversial issue was proceeding very civilly, despite people's differing and sometimes opposing viewpoints. Well done old chap!

there are two kinds of people in this thread.

Those that get shot, and those that are gonna shoot back.

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Originally Posted by silverx2

designing something, and actually creating something that works are differnt things.

babbage had great ideas but he couldnt get the job done.
turing stole all his ideas from al gores grand father.

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Oh jesus, let's just steer this conversation right into the manure and start comparing wangs shall we? I guarantee mine's bigger than yours!

errect of flaccid?

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Originally Posted by silverx2

errect of flaccid?

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As I learnt from an ex, you're either a grower or a shower - one or the other, never both.

And I don't think you'll ever be in a position to find out. ;)

so true... sooooo very true.

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Originally Posted by TheOriginalFlashDavo

I don't see anyone making any suggestions they hate the US. I don't see anyone balking at discussing any issues in their own countries. All I did see (before the usual defensive posturing) was a discussion about an issue that was very relevant due to an unfortunate recent event in the US.

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eh? you quote me then say this.

either back it up where I said that, or apologize.

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Actually gerbick, this time you can take credit: Until your post (closely followed by EVPohovich's) I thought this discussion about a very passionate and controversial issue was proceeding very civilly, despite people's differing and sometimes opposing viewpoints. Well done old chap!

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Just because it was going in a manner that you agreed with doesn't equal passion.

I didn't steer anything, unless you're just that weak-minded. I said quite possibly as nebulous of a statement as anybody else, no stats are needed for what I said.

Say nothing, do nothing, solve nothing. Gun control is an issue we will continue to disagree with. That's as specific as I need to get in regards to you.

But the second I show "passion" and say one statement, you think I was referring only to you?

Get a clue Davo. You are not a problem to me. You are not a factor even. You factor into my life that one time I had to ban you and a few others for not minding the rules. You get all upset, say that "you're not playing fair" and pick up your stuff and huff off once somebody either says "stick to one point" or "make one point" or if somebody counters you.

Seriously. Above... either show me where I stated that "You hate the US" or apologize.

I said no such thing in this thread. I'll be waiting for my apology once you see your folly.

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Originally Posted by lesli_felix

You need to study your history. You know who charles babbage was?

Alan turing? No?

Please do your research before posting arrogant and uninformed crap like that.

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so then you are using a computer whose microprocessor comes from a company that originated elsewhere than the u.s.

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I don't see anyone making any suggestions they hate the US.

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Hate perhaps too strong a word, but with nearly every post you insinuate that the only issues reside this side of the Atlantic, and if you can't see your own bias than it's worse than I thought around here.

How is this even relevant? The topic is gun control, not my country is better than yours. Guns could be removed from law obeying citizens then leaving them defenseless, however there are other methods of defending yourself and it would also make it harder for criminals to obtain guns, not all gun crime is committed using illegal weaponry.

Heres a quick hypothetical, say you find your girlfriend/boyfriend cheating on you and your in a mad rage, as in fury, the gun is right there and easy to get at and rather than going over a whacking him in the face etc you deliver a shot which is very likely to leave him/her dead or critically wounded. If the gun wasn't there and you were not some terrorist with illegal possession then the whole incident may have been alot less worse.

While I don't think my country is perfect, I also don't think any is and a few people on here are talking like America is the ruler of the world.

To be fair, he's had a few Australia-specific posts about issues. However, I still want to know how my words were construed to fit into such a small box of "...hate the US..." when I had not said such a thing at all.

That's past insinuation. That's a lie. That's purposely changing what somebody had said. That's putting words in a person's mouth. That's libel since the internet is considered "media".

And above all, it's not even pertinent.

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Originally Posted by tidenburg

Heres a quick hypothetical, say you find your girlfriend/boyfriend cheating on you and your in a mad rage, as in fury, the gun is right there and easy to get at and rather than going over a whacking him in the face etc you deliver a shot which is very likely to leave him/her dead or critically wounded. If the gun wasn't there and you were not some terrorist with illegal possession then the whole incident may have been alot less worse.

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yes.. you may have grabbed a knife and gone OJ simpson on the both of them.