So you mean we'll align with the center of the galaxy.
Or more accurately, the Sun will align with the center of the galaxy.
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So you mean we'll align with the center of the galaxy.
Or more accurately, the Sun will align with the center of the galaxy.
Wasn't that the plot of War of the Worlds?Quote:
Originally Posted by e_tit
The Earth's axial tilt will reach it's maximum of 60 degrees in relation to the equatorial plane of the Milky Way galaxy. Our earth will be placed in the galactic belt in a position where the distance from the center of galaxy to earth will be equal to distance from earth to galactic circumference. So it wil be in the center of galactic belt. There will be an outburst of energy.
Remember 2012 is NOT the end of world. Its the beginning of a new evolution.
Hmm. May be I did not make it clear, sorry abt that.
This is what you said:
"there are about 8 million different species on earth, out of these 8 million, only a handfull have humanoid shape. and we all share the same common ancestor. there is no way that a creature from another planet, with a different environment and a different common ancerstor would have a humanoid shape. "
I replied:
"What makes you feel there CAN NOT be another earth-like-planet? What makes you believe there CAN NOT be a planet better than earth in this universe flooded with billions of galaxies with triilions and trillions of planets."
So what I mean to say is: If there can be earth-like planet then obviously we can also have earth-like humans and creatures and ancestors in these planets.
well, its not really the planet that matters. it does matter some what as environment will influence evolution. however, the biological and genetic composition of life on this planet would have no real reason to produce humanoids. as the theory goes, life on earth developed out of what you could basically call air.
See.. when our planet first formed, all we had was rocks, air and what not. There was no life to speak of. Just a mix of gases, liquids, and rocks and dirt. Our atmosphere was mostly hydrogen, methane, ammonia, water vapor and a few other chemicals. There was no oxygen yet, as there where no plants around to make any.
Life on this planet is mostly made of proteins, amino acids and other ingredients. But, how did we get these ingredients?
Well, if you mix the gases that where first present on earth in a lab experiment, like the experiment by Stanley Miller and Harold Urey in the 1950's. And you then expose this mix of gases to energy in the form of electrical sparks, after several hours the main reaction chamber that stores the gases becomes full of a dark pigment. This pigment is basically a mix of rich complex organic molecules, including self replicating proteins, nucleic acids, and all the other building blocks of life. The nucleic acids that result from the experiment are even capable of making identical copies of them selves.
On early earth, at some point in a way that is not yet totally understood, these ingredients gave way to the first strain of DNA. This was the tipping point. These gases and ingredients had now created something that could replicate faster than it where getting destroyed. This DNA then later developed basic cells to house them selves in, thus protecting them from destruction even more than their replication speed would allow.
From here on evolution takes over. Simple cells lead way to slightly more complex cells, this eventually leads way to multicelular life forms. And eventually plants. These plants create oxygen, and after billions of years of evolution, plants give way to aquatic life, this gives way to reptilian and mammalian life, and eventually leads to us humans.
so. what would have to happen on another planet, for this planet to make creatures that looks like humans?
Well, first of all, the size and shape of the planet would need to be identical. It would need to be at the same distance from the sun as we are, it would need to have a magnetic field like we do, it would need to have been formed in the exact same way as our planet did so that it has an early atmosphere that is identical to our early earth atmosphere. If the gases are slightly different on the other planet, they will not mix in the same way, they will not create the same organic molecules.
In other words, if an alien race wanted to have humanoid form, they would need to live on an identical copy of earth before they even had a chance at getting their foot on the first run of the ladder.
But, even if they managed to achieve this first step, they would still not have the same common ancestor as us. These molecules still need to turn in to some rudimentary form of DNA. This is when one of the big problems shows up. DNA is extremely complex. Out of millions of instructions, if you change just one instruction, it can lead to a totally different result. By now we are up to a chance of 1 in billions. But that's ok, there are 400 billion stars in the galaxy. So if this is all you needed to do, to have a humanoid shape, there could still be 3 or 4 humanoid shaped aliens in our galaxy. The problem is, that this is not even a fraction of what you would have to do. See, DNA changes a little every single time it reproduces. And over a course of 4 billion years, it reproduces a lot. This makes your chances of making humanoids almost non existent.
With the problems we have now, to make humanoids, you would first need the same common ancestor, on a planet indistinguishably identical to ours, with the same water to land ration, with the same shaped continents and the same atmosphere, gravity, brightness, everything. At this point... your chances of producing humanoid shaped creatures is probably around 1 in a googolplex.
And now here comes the killer, as evolution can be heavily influenced by a planets environment, this would now mean that you would need to have, more or less the same weather on that planet, every single day, for 4 billion years.
Think about the odds on that for a moment. You chances are literally 1 in infinity. Think about your own life for a moment, lets just concentrate on your life. You.
Why are you here? Luck? Think about this...
if your mother and father had never met, you would not be alive today.
If your grandmother and grandfather had never met, you would not be alive today.
If your great grandmother and great grandfather had never met, you would not be alive today.
Thats just 3 generations, about 250 years or so. We are talking about 4 billion years. ''4.000.000.000!'' … to put it mildly... if 60 million years ago, one ape had not chased down another ape and had sex with it, you would not be alive today. If 160 million years ago, some small mammal had been eaten by some other creature, you would not be alive today. If 300 million years ago, some amphibious creature would have got crushed by a falling branch, you would not be alive today.
To cut a long story short, if in the last 4 billion years, there had been 1 death more, or 1 death less, of any living creature. There is a very serious and real chance that you or I would have never had been born. Basically, our humanoid DNA would have never made it this far.
You just have so many problems to deal with, such as floods, storms, meteor strikes, or any other natural phenomenon.
If one germ had evolved just slightly differently, it could have led to a pandemic 50 million years ago, and humans would have never even existed.
To summarize, the odds of humanoid life arising, is so low. That you should expect to see 1 humanoid race for every few million galaxies, not stars, galaxies!
When you combine this very serious problem, with all the travel and other problems that I have mentioned in other posts, it is clear to see, that there is a chance a humanoid species would visit us. But it is so low, its almost impossible.
When you consider all these problems, and consider that there have been multiple claims of humanoid shaped aliens, all different races and all humanoids, and not a single claim of any blob people... you have to conclude that something is seriously wrong with this picture.
First of all, our earth's atmosphere(and gases) as you think is not really a unique one. Lot of planets share the same kind of atmosphere and same composition of gases. The concept of global warming due to green house gases and depletion of ozone is one of the greatest jokes ever. Our atmosphere is never gonna get affected by greenhouse gases, factory emmisions, pollutants etc etc. Please refer to this link: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...s-warming.html
Let me go one step further and give you a big big surprise(if you can handle it) - Our atmosphere was "created" by 8th dimensional beings. We are being protected from a lot of external radiations, comets, asteroids etc etc because of this. Not only that, our atmosphere is still being repaired by these "beings" to shield us from Sun's increasing radiation. All this heat waves that we experience now is due to the heating up of sun. Sun is getting reallly hot every month. And this has absolutely nothing to do with global warming.
And coming to the uniqueness of humanoid, let me tell you that we are not only being visited by humanoid aliens but also 'Orbs', 'light beings' and other disgusting looking extraterrestrials. Humanoids are coming from other earth-like planets with earth-like atmosphere, nonearth-like planets with exactly the same atmosphere. Earth's atmosphere(shield) is designed by higher intelligence and not by random nature.
There is one big leap between homosapiens and neanderthals. Our scientists could never trace out this missing link, and never will because we are here as a result of dna manipulation done by the Reptilian Aliens. Our darwinian evolution chart can not bridge this gap with pieces of bones bcos ther ain't any.
Your honest, sweet and verrrry kind government:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6bL1MAZR_E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2oajGX9PTh0
The fact you walk amongst us scares the living **** out of me.Quote:
Our atmosphere was "created" by 8th dimensional beings. We are being protected from a lot of external radiations, comets, asteroids etc etc because of this. Not only that, our atmosphere is still being repaired by these "beings" to shield us from Sun's increasing radiation. All this heat waves that we experience now is due to the heating up of sun. Sun is getting reallly hot every month. And this has absolutely nothing to do with global warming.
well, I don't see how I could ever possibly come back from a devastating blow to my position like that one. Congratulations, the better man has been declared victorious.
Before I formally declare defeat, I would just like to introduce you to someone.
Here: http://www.youtube.com/user/gorilla199
he is a youtuber by the name of gorilla199, he believes that shape shifting reptilians from the planet nibiru, called tares or the anunaki, are going to come here in 2012, though a hole in the van allan belt that will be made by magnetic energy produced by CERN's large hadron collider. So that they can do battle with God at Armageddon.
He also believes that the movie, ''the golden compass'' teaches necromancy to children, that upside down bicycles are angels, and that anything with either a circle a triangle or an 'X' in its shape is a boasting monument to the masonic/reptilian masterplan to take over the world.
Something tells me that you two would get on well.
Anyway, congratulations. I hereby formally concede defeat in this debate, and urge our spectators to consider the validity of my opponents arguments. I believe your message is an important one, and we should do all we can to inform the general public, may they benefit from your wisdom for generations to come.
I love popping in every day or so to see who is saying what and how e_tit is responding.
I just can't suspend reason to accept the premise laid out in this thread. and then you come up with throwaway statements like this -
Please name them ...or at least tell me how many scientists have located, and provide a reference that does not also think that aliens shaped like giant caorrots walk amongst us.Quote:
Lot of planets share the same kind of atmosphere and same composition of gases.
dp
I don't know if it's the pain meds... or the pain. However this is... quite possibly the best damn sci-fi I've seen since... ever.
Driving over a speed hump is invoking not only pyramids, flying saucers, angels disguised as upside down bicycles, but it's the mark of the Beast and it uses the Greek alphabet to boot!? I'm way impressed. Bravo.
I thought Peter Griffin's assertion that his bowl of cereal was haunted because it stated "OOooooo" was genius. Too bad it was Cheerios. Gorilla199 needs to write scripts.
@ David: nop, I dont think so.
Aids: manufatured virus
They just want to get rid of the world population. Its all part of the treaty signed(after the Roswell crash in 1947) with "Greys" who are behind the "secret government" operating within the US government. Ofcourse a couple of other nations too are part of this. And don't forget the Reptilians who are super advanced in technology and are masters of mind controlling. Please go through New World Order in the blog to understand better. They even have the CURE for AIDS. Remember the recent earth quake in China? Thats the result of "weather controlling technology" we have got from the Reptilians. We can move earth plates, we can create cyclones and what not. We are basically misusing the technology. Whatever I am saying, you please do research and find out the truth by yourself if you don't want to believe. And what about CANCER?? CANCER was also created by our "honest scientists" just to get rid of the population. I leave it to "you" to find the facts by yourself.
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AIDS virus is not from earth. It was given to us after the Roswell incident in 1947.They also provided the vaccine/cure for this disease. This disease was unleashed on the world in 1971, in the Panama Canal area, by a covert government to reduce the world population. The WTC was the headquarters of this government, that's why it was destroyed. The Pentagon had to be attacked to destroy evidence about government funding(regarding this).
I got this info from reliable sources. Please research before you conclude.
Using Alien Technology we can completely get rid of poverty from the phase of earth, but these group of "Honest Gentlemen" are trying to get rid of human population. Bravo.
WOW. Check this out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FE2s7tySlM
I am gonna put this on blog.
a giant carrot??Quote:
I got this info from reliable sources.
I'm curious... what does e_tit mean? Does it have anything to do with what I'm thinking it means? I'm assuming not.