Petition for Macromedia to improve the Macintosh Flash Plugin.

I too have been forced to design on mac and test on pc. I always use to regard it as mostly a hardware issue, but that is irrelevant now.

I was hoping with the release of flashPlayer 7 these things would improve.

I hate having to design-down to make something run smooth on the mac just because of the player. Theres also many time using setInterval that it skips the code in one of the intervals if there is heavy _alpha switching, or a decent amount of mc's in a new frame.

I also teach an advanced flash class in a mac lab. All the design classes utilize the mac so we don't have a pc available to test things out on. Making anykind of alpha switching, especially with bitmaps, totally bogs the macs down.

Whenever I mention to people that I develop flash websites and applications one of the first things I get asked is why playback is so slow on the mac.

I still have not seen any technical specifications as to why the pc just rips through swf files.

Yes, please try to do something about it. It's frustrating and time-consuming for all of us, still having to deal with these difficulties caused by incompatibility.

MAC users worldwide will be deeply grateful and will work better and faster.

Thanks,
4MuLA
Kareeboo Webdesign
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looks like your prayers might have been answered:)
http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000146.html

Yeah, I saw that yesterday, pretty impressive.

Might be time to close this thread...I suppose we should wait and see (though I did notice the demo is running on a Mac...).

Unfortunately, it's not just the player -- it's the Flash authoring app as well. I'm using Flash MX 2004 Pro on Mac OS X (also use it on Windows) and it is incredibly slow. I also get the spinning wheel of death when I try to remove frames from the timeline. This is making Flash virtually unusable on my Mac. Time to improve this!

Have had several problems with the mac player. FIX IT!

Bee

my part :)

I have created a fairly simple tile game which is very light on animations and such and there is a world of difference between PC and Mac. It is very important to me and my business that I have Mac as an option for my projects. I'm dissapointed that it's not working as it should even after messing with several suggested "work-arounds".

Thank you,

Mike Summers

For the love of glavin... make Flash Player bareable on Macs. It's bad enough that viewers should have to experience slowness, but it's just unfair to force this upon the developers. We have way over 7 Macs in this house alone, and even the G5 lags on Flash games (to a certain extent). You guys created Flash to be the ultimate in multi-platform presentation, yet you STILL manage to be biased towards PCs. No developers appear to notice that Macs exist, and this is no exception. Why the hell should you dramatically up the speed of the PC version, and not do ANYTHING to the Mac one?

[SJT Edited; Calling Macromedia racist for not producing an acceptable flash player is:
a) patently untrue.
b) extremely offensive
let's stick to the facts, and keep this a sensible petition shall we?]
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Well, maybe I'm taking this too far. But we always have to settle with the crap end of the deal. I have to buy NeverWinter Nights and its expansions packs for about £30 each because Bioware haven't released a Platinum pack for Mac. I have to pay extra for games because they haven't already been out for three years. I have to grimace in horror at EVERY .exe file I want to run. I have to get friggin' Windows Media Player to watch half the movies on the web. And now, even Macromedia have hopped onto the anti-Mac bandwagon. How can it be so much harder to increase the performance on Macs when you've already written the program for PCs? How can it require more than a few hundred different lines of code? We expect to get what we paid for, and if PC users get to run their movies much faster without paying a penny extra, we're being exploited. I'm signing this thing.

Signed. I hope flash player 8 plugin brings the desired help the mac version of flash player desperately needs.

If it does, I'll be buying flash 8 and authoring with it, rather than 6, if the speed benefits are that dramatic (and player 8 only features exist that make it worthwhile)

Make this the one!

Também quero fazer parte desta lista de reclamantes!

I'm saying that I agree with this petition.:mad:

I'm on PC - but what the hell, it isn't fair for you guys

:D

count me in...

I´m in too!
I work with PC, but I´ve seen some of my work on Mac, and it sucks!

Just bought a new G5 and flash runs unbelievably slow on it.

And here, I thought it was just because my iBook was too slow. Almost ran out and bought a new computer. Macromedia, I would bow down and kiss your feet if you could make the Mac Flash 8 plugin run at anyhwere near the performance of the Windows plugin... and still work on my G3 600. But maybe that's wishful thinking.

<i>Pleeeeeeeeease</i> help us Macromedia... <b>IT IS TOO SLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. </b> Especially, when the movies are playing some external SWFs and music tracks.

Macro... are you "bigotting" about Macs? ;)

L-A

Please :)

Signing on. The performance on mac is embarrasing.
Cross-platform app... right.

I sign this thread.

ditto. Mac playback is chunky and ugly. help us out.

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Originally posted by BlinkOk
looks like your prayers might have been answered:)
http://www.moock.org/blog/archives/000146.html

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now if this one is accomplished

we should start petition to improve authoring environment!
After all for working people this is more important - to be able to work faster!!!

Optimization for the Mac seems like a no-brainer to me. With most design firms out there working on Macs since the beginning of desktop publishing, and with the design world being loud proponents of the Flash Player due to inherent graphic design control, I really was surprised to find this situation existing...


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Scott Padgett
ADAMS
http://adams-solutions.com
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I believe Macromedia should take immediate steps to make their Flash Players of equal performance for all browser/platform combinations. (I understand this all takes time and money, but where are the press releases addressing what is being done?)

In particular I would like to point out that the Macromedia Edge email newsletter of May 24th, 2005, published (as the 3rd article in the issue) information about how great the Firefox browser is. (I agree!) This to me reads as a direct endorsement of Firefox from Macromedia (which I support). However, to my knowledge the least functional Flash Player plugin available is for Firefox on the Mac. This player includes bugs that (per my testing) do not happen in any other browser/platform combinations, and render some of the most basic site design choices un-usable if a browser crash is to be avoided.

As always, good design choices must be made with the weakest link in mind, and this particular flaw greatly inhibits our capabilities to make great working sites.

The Flash potential to be the future of the Internet is only as good as it can be completely cross platform and any browser compatible.

Signed. I hope the flash 8 plugin is better . . . please !

I have a 1.67Ghz Powerbook G4, Tiger 10.4.2, ATI Radeon 128 graphics card and 2gb ddr ram...

With flash player 6,7 or 8 Flash sites die!!!

(I'm an interactive designer so i have to own a pc just to see what my work runs like)

GET IT SORTED MM!

I agree - this situation is unbelievable - I mean, this thread was started in 2002!

My macs run my work like krap, it runs great on my PCs. This is also true for flash video, it seems. :(

I would agree that the swf. player could use some work. For instance it would be nice if the flash player would use hardware instead of just the prosesser. In my opinion this could improve the speed some.

Yea they really need to fix flash player on mac's, I learned flash on a mac and we always hated how our animations would play back on macs, its really sad. Count me in.

sign me up #269 is doin fine

Anywho, count me in too. :mrt:

Signed.

It's always annoyed me, particularly sites that lock up your mac browsers.

i'm in

Absolutely,

and another thing, the debugger API on the mac is all but unusable when you're trying to look at objects and their properties in the 'Variables' pane of the debugger. It's awful, and although I like working on the mac, developing an application where debugging is required (which, let's face it, is ALWAYS) is aggravating and extremely difficult/

Take a look at XRay for debugging, it's pretty good.
http://www.osflash.org/xray

Signed. With Adobe purchasing Macromedia, I hope there are optimizations made. It's crazy that a 500mhz Pentium 2 computer plays Flash movies better than a G4 500mhz Mac tower.

signed.

thnx sjt i am looking forward to xray debug....

now if only i can get flash to work on a macbook pro.

No problems here on a MacBook Pro 15".

But still looking forward to a Universal App that screams!

Excellent flashBrewing!:

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Originally Posted by flashbrewing

Absolutely,

and another thing, the debugger API on the mac is all but unusable when you're trying to look at objects and their properties in the 'Variables' pane of the debugger. It's awful, and although I like working on the mac, developing an application where debugging is required (which, let's face it, is ALWAYS) is aggravating and extremely difficult/

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AMEN. I use vers 7 and 6, for mac and windows versions of flash, i love the mac but the win is easier to develp and debug FLAs on and the swfs play so much better. the mac flash api panes are scatterbrained and a major PIA, the windows version is much better organized and "stickied" to each other. And of course, the playback is better on win over mac. How ironic and sad since for everything else, mac graphics is so superior. Combined with the intel problem, i have no choice but to go back to my win platform for fla development.

JMHo the marriage of intel chips with OSX is the future. Adobe/macromedia better figure that one out fast.

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Originally Posted by aldorr

No problems here on a MacBook Pro 15".

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curse you :mrt: what vers of flash are you running? had a g4 w/osx 10.3.9 and flash mx pro 7.2. But last week the machine died on applecare warranty and apple said they couldnt fix it so they replaced with a macBookPro 2 gHz w/osx 10.4. I used restore from my firewire drive flash and now it even wont recognize the sn nor run on it. Inquiries to adobe go unanswered. any ideas welcome, i really would prefer to use my macbook, but at this rate i am going back to win.