Aah, who said it was hard to get on the beta program !
:p
joke !!!!
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Aah, who said it was hard to get on the beta program !
:p
joke !!!!
ouch,ouch
The loadSound() effects Netscape on Windows. I wish for a unloadSound() command.
does all this issue affect the standalone player? i am new to flash and thinking about getting flash mx but with all these bugs...
If I select a song, then my download accelerator shows up asking my to download the mp3 file. Why is that????????Quote:
hmm. interesting. i wonder why i still have the streaming bug.
would any of you guys (who said the streaming bug is gone) test this out for me
http://www.the1stmovement.com/temp
1) click on a song on the background
2) then wait till it's streaming
3) click "unload" on the left
for me, the sound continues to stream, and i have version 6.0.25 installed (as said on the "about Macromedia Player" link at least)
thanks guys
The problem isn't actually with Flash MX as such, it's the player that has a bug (from what Mike Chambers wrote, just the ActiveX version) and furthermore affects any content developed with Flash 5 and 4 - so you shouldn't base your decision on this particular issue.Quote:
Originally posted by thenerdyguy
does all this issue affect the standalone player? i am new to flash and thinking about getting flash mx but with all these bugs...
maybe read the whole thread to get the larger picture, if you haven't done so already
- n.
what's this activeX version? the player for windows?
i mean if there is a problem with the player.. whats the point in learning flash mx?
sorry if i don't make sense.. never really used flash before. i hope they get it fixed soon.. then at least whatever u programmed will turn out as u expected ;)
bug reports go here:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/em...hform/?6213=19
Dennie have you brought this to MM's attention...? If that happeneds to everyone with Download Accellerator it would be quite a pain...Quote:
Originally posted by dennie
If I select a song, then my download accelerator shows up asking my to download the mp3 file. Why is that????????
It happens with GetRight too, but it has only happened when loading mp3's or jpg's, but not swf's.Quote:
Originally posted by Criticalflicker
Dennie have you brought this to MM's attention...? If that happeneds to everyone with Download Accellerator it would be quite a pain...Quote:
Originally posted by dennie
If I select a song, then my download accelerator shows up asking my to download the mp3 file. Why is that????????
hmmmmm.....
Wow that really sucks... looks like I'll be sticking with the FlashWriter Toolkit. :)
http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/13700.html
Quote:
[If I select a song, then my download accelerator shows up asking my to download the mp3 file. Why is that????????
that's probably because you set GetRight or Download Accelerator as the default download tool. This will happen not only in flash, as it 'll check the extension of the file, and if it's mp3 or jpg, it'll automatically start your default download tool.
if you want to disable it for download accelerator, go to "download", "option" , "general" and uncheck "integrate to IE" and "integrate to NS"
it's NOT a flash problem.
further more on this topic, the only bug left, per my understanding, is the LoadSound Streaming bug, as you can see from my previous post.
bugs happen, and I'm sure the macromedia dev group is working as hard as they can. This should not affect your decision to learn flash or MX, as it is probably the most revoluntionary product on the web nowadays.
Internet Explorer on Windows uses an activeX version of the flash player. ActiveX is a kind of plug-in system for the whole of windows. Netscape browsers don't use activeX, but have their own plug-ins.Quote:
Originally posted by thenerdyguy
what's this activeX version? the player for windows?
i mean if there is a problem with the player.. whats the point in learning flash mx?
The (activeX) player will be fixed soon - don't be put off learning MX because of this bug.
Mike made mention that the player that is affected by the streaming bug is the Active X Plug-in (PC) version. Has anyone tested to see if the Projector player is affected, and if so, will there likely be a MX updater that incorporates the newer player for Projector use.
thats a good call,
not sure how much the streaming bug would affect a standalone projecter though, most things (even big files) load pretty much straight away when played of a cdrom/hard disk.
I don't think it would matter too much to be honest.
Na, you could just change the file's extension to throw off the download manager.Quote:
Originally posted by Criticalflicker
Wow that really sucks... looks like I'll be sticking with the FlashWriter Toolkit. :)
http://www.hotscripts.com/Detailed/13700.html
try it here:
http://tweekmonster.net/flash6/test.htm
if you have download accelerator or getright.
I can think of more than a few reasons why one might want to have a local executable that retrieves files from a server online - especially now with shared objects available. What do you need the browser for anyway? If the streaming bug is indeed in the Player, then the same bandwidth issues will apply.Quote:
Originally posted by sonwah
thats a good call,
not sure how much the streaming bug would affect a standalone projecter though, most things (even big files) load pretty much straight away when played of a cdrom/hard disk.
I don't think it would matter too much to be honest.
Perhaps MM can re-distribute just the player that's used to build the Projector if it's needed. Are the 'player' files that exist in the Players directory the ones that are used to build the executable? If so, I can swap the new player in when it's released.
so,
I checked it quickly and the bug does affect the standalone projector (this is under Win2k) too.
- n.
It says in the reference for sound.loadsound() that: "<i>As with event sounds, streaming sounds exist only in virtual memory, they are not downloaded to the hard drive.</i>" Yet they apear in my Temporary Internet Files? I'm guessing the reference is wrong here?
Do I have too tell all my clients to do this. First you have install the player than you have to restart the computer than you have to disable the download accelerator and then you can view the site.Quote:
if you want to disable it for download accelerator, go to "download", "option" , "general" and uncheck "integrate to IE" and "integrate to NS"
I don't think my client gonna like that.
See the post by tweekmonster above, great solution. Just name your files .fp3 or .fpg instead of .mp3 or .jpg and that should stop download accelerator.
And you could still include them in HTML documents.
Can't beleive I come to work this morning and the bug still exists, pooh :P
re: changing jpg/mp3 file names
Just wondering - would you have to change some web-server config file too so that the mime-type is sent correctly?
For example you can load swf or jpg with loadMovie - does Flash check the file type or does it rely on the mime-type being sent from the web-server to determine what kind of file it's receiving?
- n.
Seems to work fine after renaming them regardless of the extension. I haven't tested it with Download Accellerator though. Anyhow here is a little PHP script I put together to run a rename batch on a folder of jpgs.
<?php
$handle=opendir('images/');
while ($file = readdir($handle)) {
if ($file != "." and $file != ".." and substr($file,-4) == ".jpg") {
rename("images/" . $file,"images/" . substr($file,0,-4).".xpg");
}
}
closedir($handle);
?>
Enjoy :)
na, you could name them what you want, flash doesn't care about the mime types, just as long as the file's headers mark the files as mp3 or jpg. the only thing that might go screwy is site statistics, or servers that limit file types when you upload.Quote:
Originally posted by enemem
re: changing jpg/mp3 file names
Just wondering - would you have to change some web-server config file too so that the mime-type is sent correctly?
For example you can load swf or jpg with loadMovie - does Flash check the file type or does it rely on the mime-type being sent from the web-server to determine what kind of file it's receiving?
- n.
since the page turned, and i'm sure people only wanna go straight to the last page, here's the link again if you want to test dynamic loading with your download manager:
http://tweekmonster.net/flash6/test.htm
and the script provided by Criticalflicker will definately come in handy if you got a junk load of files to rename.
the flashkit community kicks ass! keep up the good work guys.
could some one post a link to download accelerator? i want to make sure i understand what it is.Quote:
[Do I have too tell all my clients to do this. First you have install the player than you have to restart the computer than you have to disable the download accelerator and then you can view the site.
I don't think my client gonna like that.
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it sounds like it is a program that helps you download files. It also sounds like it works by listening to the traffic between the browser and server and if something like an mp3 is being sent to the browser from the server, then it catches it, and assumes the user is trying to download it.
if this is the case, then this is a download accelerator issue and not a flash player issue. Aside from releasing a technote, i am not sure what we could do (although i am open to any suggestions).
mike chambers
[email protected]
you can get download accelerator at:
http://www.speedbit.com
we are aware that the flash player isn't the problem, we were just discussing a work around, so we wouldn't have to have a foot note on our sites saying that viewers should disable their download manager.
[Edited by tweekmonster on 04-15-2002 at 10:58 AM]
no this isnt a damn download accelerator issue, just some ppl that decided to post their DA problems into here.... mike sort it out.... YOU SAY YOU'VE ALMOST FIXED THE FLIPPIN THING, MEANING YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THE STREAMING ISSUE.... BUT NOW YOU'RE THROWN OFF THE TRACK BY MEDDLERS....
the truth must be, nobody at macromedia is addressing this current issue....
don't worry. i understand that the streaming issue and download accelerator issue are seperate issues.Quote:
Originally posted by offdahook
no this isnt a damn download accelerator issue, just some ppl that decided to post their DA problems into here.... mike sort it out.... YOU SAY YOU'VE ALMOST FIXED THE FLIPPIN THING, MEANING YOU'VE IDENTIFIED THE STREAMING ISSUE.... BUT NOW YOU'RE THROWN OFF THE TRACK BY MEDDLERS....
the truth must be, nobody at macromedia is addressing this current issue....
mike chambers
[email protected]
great - some frayed tempers again. keep it cool people!
mike - thanks for checking up on the DA issue (though I agree that it isn't a bug of the player) - don't take these guys too seriously :)
- n.
[Edited by enemem on 04-15-2002 at 11:44 AM]
It is true though that this thread is becoming a dumping ground of, not so much petty, but semi-related stuff. Makes it tougher for people to find solutions to problems to that might have been discussed in here.
Everybody knows this whole thing is Mikes fault, anyway. We know that you type in junk code into the Flash Player - we are on to you. You should have fixed the FLIPPING thing long ago, but I guess you just like the chaos.
I bet Macromedia is really a cabal of the rich - trying to keep power out of the hands of the little guys - this is just one more way for them to keep us down.
lol am i being patronised here?
no (seriously) :DQuote:
Originally posted by offdahook
lol am i being patronised here?
- n.
Hoping this is sarcasm. Anyway, I think we've discovered that the DA issue is simple to solve, and since it's a DA issue rather than a Flash one, I don't think it would be necessary for Macromedia to re-code the player to get around DA.Quote:
Originally posted by SOLOMONF
Everybody knows this whole thing is Mikes fault, anyway. We know that you type in junk code into the Flash Player - we are on to you. You should have fixed the FLIPPING thing long ago, but I guess you just like the chaos.
I bet Macromedia is really a cabal of the rich - trying to keep power out of the hands of the little guys - this is just one more way for them to keep us down.
I think a simple technote discussing the issue and the workaround will be good enough for everyone. Moving on...
Being that this started as the informative thread on the streaming issues, I jump to it each time I recieve email notification that there is a new post.
I'll go out on a limb and state that I- along with most of the eyes watching this thread- are hoping to find INFORMATIVE, constructive, information relative to the issue at hand.
I've been following the news on this issue and have watched, as many have, as the whole thing took a decidely "Paula-Jones" swing while 'developers' crawled from the woodwork with miscellaneous claims of MM wronging them.
This was an annoying enough perversion of the thread but
hearing people complain about having access to guys like Mike Chambers and his peers was still more ridiculous. Having this level of access to developers of a commercial product such as flash is a rarity in the industry, and seems to be taken for granted by way too many.
Taking yet another turn for the worse, it now seems that this is the premier stage for any and all complaints about MM- Going out on a limb again.
I'll flat out yell that of the nearly 18,000 views this post has recived, close to none were made with the intent of reading a bitc* and moan fest.
Now- to keep this from being yet another whine- I'll propose a plan of action. Post your whines and complaints in the following thread, created for this exact purpose.
<a href="http://board.flashkit.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=296955"><b>"WHINE"</b></a>
And those who've got legitimate info related to the streaming bug, post HERE in the "NEW STREAMING ISSUES" thread.
*counting backwards from ten, calming down...
I have done some investigating to see if the Projector (standalone) player has the 'streaming' bug, and have discovered the following:
1. The bug appears to be in the player (both PC/Mac)
2. A PC projector saves downloaded resources in the "temporary internet files" directory on the PC, and so these resources are cached.
3. The Mac projector DOES NOT save any downloaded resources to a cache file. All resources are always loaded from the server.
I have posted example files that you can test yourself;
for the PC version (executable v6.0r23, and source)
http://www.stephenarogers.com/MXtest/stream_test.zip
for the Mac version (executable v6.0r23. and source)
http://www.stephenarogers.com/MXtest/stream_test.sit
Please update us as soon as you have any further info.
Thanks
erhmm.. any updates on this 'upcoming' patch?
http://www.were-here.com/forums/show...6&pagenumber=5
The latest at were-here from Mike this morning was that it would be released "shortly".
yep, sorry i haven't posted here yet. i was planning to post this afternoon when i would hopefully have a little more info.Quote:
Originally posted by Criticalflicker
http://www.were-here.com/forums/show...6&pagenumber=5
The latest at were-here from Mike this morning was that it would be released "shortly".
mike chambers
[email protected]
wow. that's fast for a reply.
thanks a lot for the promptness.
hope to hear of its release soon, and mike, we do appreciate your replies and updates!