I wanted to know if you guys here at FK also play console games and what console do you have if you do. I have the Wii, got it for last Christmas. Didn't have a console since PSX. What do you guys play?
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I wanted to know if you guys here at FK also play console games and what console do you have if you do. I have the Wii, got it for last Christmas. Didn't have a console since PSX. What do you guys play?
I've had two Ataris, a PS1, and a PS2 pass through my house
Mostly I grew up on ancient, random Mac games though
I'm a complete game freak so, yeah. Stupid thing, I actually have 3 xbox 360s, Wii, PS3 and 3 NDS's (old one, black thin one and a white one). I did this for the last generation of consoles aswell (2 ps2's, xbox, gamecube) but I really only use my Xbox, I've seen nothing good come of the Wii and only LBP, MGS and a few others have really been worth it for the playstation (hence not getting a PSP). Bit obsessed with those stupid gimmicky guitar games at the moment (the rockbands, guitar heros) but Left 4 Dead is amazing too. :)
Gamertag: Its Tidenburg
PSN: Tidenburg
No clue what my wii code is.
I'll probably get out of my console obsession when I grow up, as for now, whenever I get money it's the only thing I can think of spending it on. >_>
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Uncharted! I must've completed that game about 4 times now, apart from the over-emphasis on combat it's amazing. :p Warioware for the wii also came to mind. :)
It's strange how the relationship between gaming and programming works
More than half the people in my class, AOIT (Academy of Information Technology), are gamers, and assumed they're there to either play games, or learn how to make them
Another portion are seeking a future in computers, and some got in there by accident...
Unfortunately not everyone has the capacity for programming, so I wind up doing my project, along with 7 others =\
I feel odd one out not being as hardcore gamer as my friends (I assure you though, I'm still decent at gaming)
But... I digress
I have a different point to make
Anyone have odd desire to play "classic" games?
All these new videogames are nice and all, but I'm starting to miss my Mac, my PS1 games, and my Atari...
Well, I still haven't bumped inside this new gen at all. I mostly play PS1/PS2/Gamecube games, and still some of my SNES ones.
Everyone tends to like the game he played as a child more than the ones that come out after.
Not to mention it was in some of these games I got my first taste of gooey computer code (one game had a particularly bare-bones level creation system, and was when I first realized how complicated games can be)
I'd say those games are actually the reason I like to make stuff to this day, so is why I miss them =\
Also I had a graphing calculator on my Mac too, so that might be why I enjoy math -.0
Children can be very impressionable
@trogdor: yeah, playing games is the reason why I also jumped into learning programming, though I don't know too much, just barely more than just AS. But wanting to make games was something I desired since I was a child. Thank God flash exists :)
@tidenburg: man you really like games!! I'd like to have that much of a game collection. I am thinking of getting a PS3 also, but will have to save some money first. And also I am not shure if getting a PS3 or a 360, but I want to play all those so-good-looking games a bunch!!
@fil_razorback:
you're totally right. Though I like the new games I play, they can never compare to the old ones: Contra, Punch Out, Crash Bandicoot and some more that I played as a child, I even have more fun playing those than a lot of the new ones.Quote:
Everyone tends to like the game he played as a child more than the ones that come out after.
I play my Xbox 360, Wii, PS2 and DS pretty regularly when I remember to. Oh yeah, I started playing some iPhone games too!
Right now I'm in a Final Fantasy 12 fever for PS2. Bought this game several years ago but just jumped into it again. Agonizingly long, put 70 hours into it so far. Awesome battle system though, although the story and characters are rather weak. An amazing world in this game, inspires me to make something as brilliantly designed and well thought out.
On Xbox I've playing GTA4, Street Fighter 4 (such an amazing update), and some downloadable games like Braid, Banjo Kazooie, Rez, and Virtual On.
Wii, I have No More Heroes but haven't even played it yet.
I'm gonna work on GTA4 next, and polish up my skills on SF4 cause I've been sparring with my friends every now and then.
There were great games when we were kids, and a lot has to do with nostalgia. But there are a ton of games out there these days that are just as good. You just have to search for them more sometimes.
Also, there are so many friggin amazing freeware games out there like Cave Story and Legend of Princess. I mean, look at this video. This game is amazing. As well as all the Flash gems we'll never stumble upon.
iPhone's got some awesome games, buried in the garbage. Stuff that I don't think would have even worked well without a touch screen. Edge for iPhone is brilliant. Zenonia is a super well made Zelda-ish game that's like 20 hours of gameplay for $5. Mecha Wars is a good Advance Wars clone. There's a lot of games that work well for iPhone that I thought wouldn't. iPhone been more inspiring than Flash for me, recently.
Great games everywhere. Makes me keep striving to contribute!
Yeah, i agree, some exciting and inspiring stuff going on on the iPhone :)
I work on some iPhone games in between these days, too, even if i´m not getting to it as much as i´d like thanks to client work.
Same with playing games on the iPhone and elsewhere really, i´ve got an iPhone, ds, psp, wii and 360 but only getting to play through the big games a bit every few weeks and check out the indy stuff briefly in between.
Last really big games i played through on the 360 were fallout 3 and some of its expansions and red faction guerrilla, both very awesome games for different reasons.
In fallout i like the deep storyline, dialogues and the concept that they introduce totally different scenarios in the expansions, next to the perk system.
In Red Faction the story isn´t all bad either but i played that one mostly due to the tons of fun i had with the physics engine :)
Next time i have some more spare time i´ll play through the new Monkey Island games, by then they´ll probably have several episodes released.
I often do adver games as client work and my free time projects are usually way smaller games thanks to time and budget constraints but i still haven´t given up the dream that one day i get the money and team together to create one of the big games for which the gdds are sitting on my computer for a few years now.
I think next to playing games for fun its also important to me as game developer to know what is coming out, see interesting concepts and solutions for common problems people think up and well, just get inspired.
Yes, the iPhone is really the place to be for miniGame programmers.
Some of my friends spend hours just throwing that stupid paper ball at the trashcan. I thought it was totally stupid... until I tried it.
As for console games, I've got a wii (Yes, that's it), and I have found that the wii isnt much good for games other than warrio Ware style stuff. That darn infrared sensor is too picky.
I've been working on a game in flash AS3, I never really succeeded in AS2 but I really feel like this object oriented stuff not too hard.
Sigh. Stupid apple. Why would you block out the Ideas of microsoft users???
If I had a mac, I'd put my flash game in SDK right away. but nooooo.
@Trogdor; I like old fashioned games too. Can't seem to get over Galaga.
but what's this about children?
i have a ps2 a wii and a ipod touch and all of them i use constantly but personally i like the computer way better because mine pones it has the second best graphics card in the world which cost me about 5 or 6 hundred! and also it is a quad core extreme with 8 gb of ram!it definately pones!
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I never bothered with the next gen consoles. PS3/360 both seem spectacular in their respective rights, but I'll settle for NES/SNES/PSX emulation any day, hands down. Actually I'm playing through Castlevania: Symphony of the Night as we speak... (Super Metroid, Super Mario RPG, Gradius, to name a few, plus any side-scroller EVER also come to mind...)
Ahh hrmm
My youth days were filled with dozens of games I doubt anyone except my family has played
Wanting to return may have to do with the fact I played em when I was little but...
There is unmistakable difference between today's and yesterday's game stuffs
It is a common belief that people are replacing good plot and character with beefed up graphics and intense blargh yes?
Probably because high quality graphics and such have become cheap to produce, meanwhile amazing stories remain as hard to come by as ever
And I doubt it'll change soon either, considering how old the art of storytelling is o-o
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I've got PS1, but i didn't play it for many years(since my first PC was bought)
trogdor, hm, dunno if i´d agree to your point that people "are replacing good plot and character with beefed up graphics and intense blargh" in general compared to games of a good while ago.
Sure, some do but in general i feel like there are way more games which have varied different storylines or gameplay experiences than when i was small.
I have very fond memories of many games i played when i was small but when one really takes em out and tries to play through em today many just don´t hold up at all by today´s standards. (Sure those which still hold up are extra special in return =) )
Its understandable when graphics one remembered as being amazing often aren´t anymore of course but i also mean things like the storyline and especially things like gameplay and game balance.
A few years back many games were intended for arcades where the goal was that the player should die often so he has to put more money into they machine to try repeated times, then the dev teams were usually also smaller and had less money so games were often smaller or shorter and were stretched out by just making them so tough to beat that is was very difficult to reach the end.
With some games its esppecially noticable cause when one applies today´s common saving and loading standards of console games to them (that one can at least once per level save and load progress; in many games actually anytime one wants) then many old games become super easy to play through, especially action games seem to have a tendency to not hold up well in those regards.
I don´t like watered down games either, also ones which are made in a way where one plays through a challenge but its just not challenging at all, but yeah, i think many games do such things way better nowadays.
With Nintendo i´m always polarized whether i find the next thing they do good; sometimes i have the feeling they did another good thing to attract a bigger crowd; with other things they do i have the feeling they water things down too much to make them accessible.
The Mario Kart game series is a good example for what i mean:
In the very first game of that series it was already the case that a player who fell off to a bad ranking had a higher chance to get better, more powerful items, obviously with the intention to help him rank up again.
There was no way to just punish the one or few racers on top to rank up though.
In never Mario Kart games they tried to make it more broadly accessible by narrowing the gap between good players and beginners more and one of the things they did to achieve that were some weapons which allowed the player in last rank to shoot at and hit the player in first position even if they were half a track apart from each other.
That way the player in first position could fall several positions back and it could get quite painful to be in first position after a while cause one would constantly get attacked from behind even if one had a good distance to the rest of drivers.
As with all gameplay and difficulty balancing different people will have a different view on whether this or that was a good choice, i personally hated how they changed Mario Kart like that for example, i know others though who love it like that.
Really? I've never noticed all the deep plot and character development in Mario Brothers, Sonic, The legend of Zelda, Outrun, Stunts... It took quite a while for a story to become part of the package. And like you mention, not all games of today have that. Maybe because it isn't actually part of the package but an extra. To me a game is basicly good gameplay first, story second. Nice graphics are also an extra, but the publishers have caught up with the times and just use them to sell.Quote:
Originally Posted by trogdor458
What I've noticed is that I don't really wait for games in anticipation as I used to. I don't know how much of this is growing up. I know I'm excited for the next Starcraft and Assisins Creed, but It seems with the growing supply that there are a relatively small amount of games that get me excited these days. Maybe I'm getting pickier?
Yeah,all good points, been thinking about why i´m less excited and looking forward to games (even ones i buy and enjoy then) than when i was small, too.
Its surely a mix of all the things you said, a bit its growing up and with that i mean just having seen way more so one automatically is used to more and expects more, partially it surely also is because there´s so much more stuff coming out and also in way quicker cycles than when i was small.
Then another big reason is surely the internet, and how news coverage is dealt with now, i mean back when i was small i had no pc with internet access and if i´d have one there wouldn´t be any gaming sites like kotaku etc anyway.
Nowadays there are so many of em and they kick out every tidbit of news on every game as soon as they get em into their hands, that´s a huge contrast compared to when i was small and initially had noaccess to game related news at all and later on only via game mags which came out once a month.
Add to that that those had a limited number of pages so they couldn´t just drop out every news bit on each game right away and that game companies also in many cases were much less into releasing all info on a game early on and there was a lot more in the unknown territory.
And for some magic to be exciting its important that now every bit of the trick is known beforehand.
Meanwhile i check out gaming sites a lot but when i hear about a game that seems so appealing to me that i think i´ll buy it i force myself to not read every news bit on it and especially not watch any walkthrough kinda coverage on it beforehand to not spoil all for myself.
Still the other points remain of course, with so many games coming out its hard to focus on a single one for as long as i used to when i was small and could maybe get 3-4 games the whole year.
Now i try more flash or iPhone games on a single day sometimes and some of them are bigger games than those in my childhood ;)
Really? I've never noticed all the deep plot and character development in Mario Brothers, Sonic, The legend of Zelda[/QUOTE]
Those games don't need deep plot. Those are staples of the gaming community on which the industry was founded.
Sorry if it appeared that way, but I wasn't trying to pose the opposite argument. I was trying to make the point that those games are the "staples of the gaming community" because they have such good gameplay and not necessarily good story and or graphics.Quote:
Originally Posted by ImprisonedPride
I also agree with that and I think growing up has a lot to do with it. I think that when you are a child everything looks better and you are happier with less. I remember that when I was small I played the same NES games over and over and I never got tired of it. Now I leave the games way faster; it is more difficult for a game to involve me as those did. What I've noticed too is that I still enjoy playing those old games a lot, probably more that today's games, but that might be for the importance they had in my childhood. Probably if I now played any of those for the first time as a flash game for example, they should not have the impact they had back then.Quote:
Originally Posted by TOdorus
Also agree with that. And one thing that happens a lot with games nowadays is that you get all hyped before the game is released and because of that, when the game comes out it is not what you expected. Doesn't happen to all games of course because some do accomplish what was expected. That didn't happen when I was a kid. Some of the games I had I didn't even know them before getting them :PQuote:
Originally Posted by tomsamson