Something I got in my inbox today...

Something I got forwarded to many...pretty good. :D

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Andy Rooney On Prisons:

Did you know that it costs forty-thousand dollars a year to house each prisoner? Jeez, for forty-thousand bucks apiece, I'll take a few prisoners into my house. I live in Los Angeles. I already have bars on the windows. I don't think we should give free room and board to criminals.

I think they should have to run twelve hours a day on a treadmill and generate electricity. And if they don't want to run, they can rest in the chair that's hooked up to the generator.


Andy Rooney On Ads In Bills:

Have you ever noticed that they put advertisements in with your bills now?
Like bills aren't distasteful enough, they have to stuff junk mail in there with them. I get back at them. I put garbage in with my check when I mail it in. Coffee grounds, banana peels...I write, "Could you throw this away
for me? Thank you."


Andy Rooney On Fabric Softener:

My wife uses fabric softener. I never knew what that stuff was for. Then I noticed women coming up to me (sniff)married' (walk off). That's how they mark their territory. You can take off the ring, but it's hard to get that April fresh scent out of your clothes.


Andy Rooney On Phone-In-Polls:

You know those shows where people call in and vote on different issues? Did you ever notice there's always like 18% that say, "I don't know." It costs 90 cents to call up and vote and they're voting "I don't know."

"Honey, I feel very strongly about this. Give me the phone." (Says Into Phone) "I DON'T KNOW!" (Hangs up looking proud.) Sometimes you have to stand up for what you believe you're not sure about.

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I like the prison idea...

TE

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Originally posted by clifgriffin
And if they don't want to run, they can rest in the chair that's hooked up to the generator.

You can take off the ring, but it's hard to get that April fresh scent out of your clothes.

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hahhahahaha I always thought there were problems with our prison system ... too soft, man - perhaps this would fix that? ;)

's true ... <checks supply of Downy> ...

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Did you know that the number of prisoners in North America has grown exponentially since the 1980's and that if it continues at this rate, by 2050 there will be more people in prison then out of prison.

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Don't scare me like that.

*hide under chair*

LOL, Andy Rooney is great!

I get back at them. I put garbage in with my check when I mail it in. Coffee grounds, banana peels...I write, "Could you throw this away
for me? Thank you."

brilliant :D

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Originally posted by clifgriffin
:eek:

Don't scare me like that.

*hide under chair*

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want something even scarier, Fact is that most of the people put in prison in the 80's were put in during the "Regan Years"

Now statistics show that the majority of these criminals released from prison will become repeat offenders, and within the next 10 years over 4 million former murderers, rapists, and armed robbers, put in jail during the 80's will be up for parol (check spelling).
Not to mention that over half of them will be released freely into the United States.

Sleep tight :D

want something even scarier, Fact is that most of the people put in prison in the 80's were put in during the "Regan Years"

Why is that scary?

Now statistics show that the majority of these criminals released from prison will become repeat offenders, and within the next 10 years over 4 million former murderers, rapists, and armed robbers, put in jail during the 80's will be up for parol (check spelling).
Not to mention that over half of them will be released freely into the United States.

There is a lot of corruption is prisons. I know someone who's father was put in prison for embezlement. He said that he saw murderers and violent criminals get out ahead of him.

Apparently they can work the ropes for more funding by letting out the ones who are most likely to come back.

Clif

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Originally posted by clifgriffin
want something even scarier, Fact is that most of the people put in prison in the 80's were put in during the "Regan Years"

Why is that scary?

Clif

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Actually that should have been dirctly related to the bottom paragraph. However (please correct me if I'm wrong) but Regan was opposed to the death penalty and believed that prisoners could be reformed.
Thus the majority of extremely dangerous criminals serial killers/rapists who would be executed or given life sentences by todays standards. Were given 20 and 30 year sentences instead of the gas chamber.
Now these killers who have spent the last decades in various prisons are ripe for release.

I see.

Actually Regean was a supporter of the death penalty...

Clif

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Originally posted by clifgriffin
I see.

Actually Regean was a supporter of the death penalty...

Clif

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Well perhaps he was met with strong opposition or something.
I'm unsure of the definition of "the regan years" (department of justice's words not mine), but I know most prisoners during his term were given far more lenient sentences then those given today.

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Originally posted by flipshark
I'm unsure of the definition of "the regan years" (department of justice's words not mine), but I know most prisoners during his term were given far more lenient sentences then those given today.

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And the correlation would be what?

Judges sentence prisoners, presidents don't.
Circuit court judges are also elected by the people, so you should probably want to research the political affiliation of all the judges that were on the bench during the Reagan era, and all the judges on the bench now before turning those inprisonment statistics into a political debate.

I would also bet the vast majority of people don't even know the political affiliation of any given judge in their area. Do you?

Personally, I've never been concerned about "over-crowded" prisons.

I mean, they're there for a reason right? Better there than on the streets raping and pillaging.
(Im talking the violent criminals...not petty drug offenders).

Of course prisons should be humane and such...but $40,000 dollars a year it costs? My girlfriend who has a Master's degree can't find a job that makes more than $35,000.

What are they feeding these guys...caviar?

40,000 a year might seem like alot but it costs more to sentance someone to the death penalty then to have them in prison for a life sentance

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Originally posted by big_k
40,000 a year might seem like alot but it costs more to sentance someone to the death penalty then to have them in prison for a life sentance

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40k is a lot !I mean ..cmon !?!

I say we kill them all and save the money instead... or even better sentence them as soon as they get arrested so we save on legal costs too ...

....then we can put that money back to military projects and carpet bomb other countries in the name of democracy and human rights violation by their uncooperative leaders which we can call 'dictators' ;)

Then we can be proud and patriotic. Woohoo!
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Originally posted by Visionray
Personally, I've never been concerned about "over-crowded" prisons.

I mean, they're there for a reason right? Better there than on the streets raping and pillaging.
(Im talking the violent criminals...not petty drug offenders).

Of course prisons should be humane and such...but $40,000 dollars a year it costs? My girlfriend who has a Master's degree can't find a job that makes more than $35,000.

What are they feeding these guys...caviar?

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Yeah..it's pretty sad. Today in america, a TV is considered to be a right for prisoners...what a joke.

Here's a funny (but scary) tidbit. ;)

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In May, Great Britain's Home Office, deciding on the proper compensation for a man who served 11 years in prison for a murder he did not commit, ruled that he was entitled to about $1.1 million, but said he would have to reimburse the prison about $63,000 for 11 years' room and board. Said the outraged Michael O'Brien, 34, who had been freed by a Court of Appeal in 1999: "They don't charge guilty people for bed and board. They only charge innocent people." [BBC News, 5-23-02]

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And another one. :D

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According to an October dispatch in London's Daily Telegraph, Greenland operates probably the world's most inmate-friendly prison (with all residents having jobs on the outside at market wages and enjoying recreational excursions such as fishing and shopping), emphasizing rehabilitation over punishment (though its recidivist rate isn't any better than other prisons'). Guards do take up arms, but only on weekend hunting trips, when the inmates themselves are armed. The main advantage of the system seems to be that court sessions are brief, in that criminals, not fearing prison, usually confess to everything.

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At least they are comfortable... :rolleyes:

Clif ;)

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Originally posted by Aria
or even better sentence them as soon as they get arrested so we save on legal costs too ...

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I thought the current administration was doing this already by denying "suspected terrorists" (in other words, anyone who looks remotely foreign) any legal council or fair trial...

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Originally posted by big_k
40,000 a year might seem like alot but it costs more to sentance someone to the death penalty then to have them in prison for a life sentance

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Where'd you get that info?

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Originally posted by CNO

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Originally posted by Aria
or even better sentence them as soon as they get arrested so we save on legal costs too ...

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I thought the current administration was doing this already by denying "suspected terrorists" (in other words, anyone who looks remotely foreign) any legal council or fair trial...

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well yeah they had to in order to save some money to cover all those expenses and bills run up by the *legal* detainees in Guantanamo who are living it up.

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well i dont remember where i read it at first, but heres an example..

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs2.html

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Originally posted by big_k
well i dont remember where i read it at first, but heres an example..

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs2.html

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Hmm...they can't do anything right can they? ;)

Could that figure be based on the fact the average "life" sentence in america is only a few years?

You gotta figure that includes the cost of the Guards and Security features , utilities , everything not just the cable TVs and Workout facilities and Computer , etc. ;)

The most effective way of using the death penalty is an individuals right to bear arms.

Armed citizens stop a crime 10 times more often then the police.

at least in the U.S.

Concerning prisons, I think some money could be saved if we didn't lock people up for smoking plants.
Despite it being a personal choice, should a government want to limit drug use, it has been shown that medical/psychological treatment is at least 10 times more cost efficient.

Or you could mimic a communist revolution and kill all the drug users.

One way to bring the cost down is..no tvs, no computers, no workout facilities. ;)

Prison isn't supposed to be a lock-in (excuse the pun :D), it's supposed to be punishment.

A basketball goal and other activities like that is plenty for convicts, IMHO.

In Texas, a death penalty case costs an average of $2.3 million, about three times the cost of imprisoning someone in a single cell at the highest security level for 40 years. (Dallas Morning News, March 8, 1992).

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Originally posted by cyk
You gotta figure that includes the cost of the Guards and Security features

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But you see, if we killed all the prisoners, we wouldn't need guards, and then we could get rid of thousands of jobs and save ourselves lots of money (sort of like Enron). But then, those guards would eventually turn into "money-grubbing" welfare recipients...

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Originally posted by CNO

But you see, if we killed all the prisoners, we wouldn't need guards, and then we could get rid of thousands of jobs and save ourselves lots of money (sort of like Enron). But then, those guards would eventually turn into "money-grubbing" welfare recipients...

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I wonder if the prison industry lobbies agianst the death penalty the way the lobby agianst drug legalization. I wonder if the lobby for gun control.

Oh that Andy Rooney, hes SO FUNNY!

cheap electricity!

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Originally posted by TallGuyLittleCar

Armed citizens stop a crime 10 times more often then the police.

at least in the U.S.

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And American gun laws are also why you're most likely to be killed by a gun in America than anywhere else in the world, and why certain parts of certain American cities are the most dangerous places on earth.

certain parts of certain American cities are the most dangerous places on earth.

Your opinion or is there any fact in there? :rolleyes:

The day people lose the right to own a gun, is the day they are victims of the government...without any defense.

The founding fathers understood that governments have a nasty way of going bad...just as they needed guns for protection from their former government...the guaranteed american citizens the same right.

I don't know were TGLC got his information on that one..don't know if he's right or not. But I do know that you have a lot of propoganda coming out of you that rarely aligns with fact.