Can't link to Flashkit? Asked to remove link?

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02-20-2003, 05:55 AM
98svt

Can't link to Flashkit? Asked to remove link?

I was just asked to remove my Flashkit generated banner from my site Swiftdev for no apparent reason.
There have been no copyright violations. We do not condone any "warez" or pirating of software or any other silly stuff like that. We don't sell anything with a flashkit logo. We dont make any money on the site. We just simply wanted to show our appreciation for all the help Flashkit and it's members have provided. Thats it, period. We even copied and pasted the text for their link right from their "Link to Us" page!

Just curious to know why? Anyone else "banned" from linking to Flashkit? Or maybe it's personnal? I've been a member for 2 years here, never had any problems. Never any profanity, always acted accordingly. Helped as many people as I could many times. My number of posts would reflect that, or maybe I'm a "post whore"!:)
Who knows. Just wonder if anyone else has been "Black listed"! :)

Any comments would be great. Positive, negative, moderated or administrative, all are welcome.

By the way, Swiftdev is a site devoted to swift and is not in direct competition with flashkit. SWIFT 3D ONLY!

Thanks to all that comment.

Mike
02-20-2003, 06:13 AM
Subway

This link here: http://swiftdev.com/links.php?op=viewlink&cid=3 ?

I don't see the problem. Which mod or admin has asked you to remove the link?

Fredi
02-20-2003, 06:15 AM
jstarkey

Mike, you were claiming that we'd partnered with you.

Subway, it came from above me.
02-20-2003, 06:19 AM
98svt

Ok, partnered in this case was a figure of speech. To blatantly ask to just remove the link and not correct the text above it is just plain silly.
The site is still in the development stages and not all of the "original" portal text has been modifed.

Give me a break.. That's a pretty lame reason.
But I do appreciate your effort!

Mike
02-20-2003, 06:23 AM
98svt

Ok, the text has been modifed. It was on my ta-do list. Now it reads "Swiftdev Supports"

Would this be a violation of Flashkits obvious strict rules for links? :)

Mike
02-20-2003, 06:23 AM
jstarkey

Quote:

Originally posted by 98svt

Give me a break.. That's a pretty lame reason.
But I do appreciate your effort!

Mike

Why is it pretty lame? We have partners who pay to keep FK alive. We have to maintain the integrity of that program.

Who'd your message come from? Dave or Mitch?
02-20-2003, 06:35 AM
98svt

It came for Dave. And belive me, I did not intend to take away from the paying advertisers or partners of Flashkit. It was an over looked mistake in text that could and would have been corrected if it was mentioned. But Dave did not mention that. The copy of his email is below:

Quote:

Mike
Please take down the Flashkit logo immediately.
Thanks
Dave
***********************************************
David Arganbright
Vice President Commerce and Licensing

Jupitermedia Corporation
23 Old Kings Highway South
Darien, CT 06820

I think it was a little "vague" dont you? No reason why. If this is the reason, then why wouldn't he have stated that in the email? It would have been corrected immediately. I do not want to step on any toes or cause any legal problems for anyone. If being a partner is paying for Flashkits bills, then where do I sign up?

Thanks,

Mike
02-20-2003, 06:39 AM
Subway

Quote:

Originally posted by 98svt
If being a partner is paying for Flashkits bills, then where do I sign up?

https://ssl.internet.com/flashkit/

Fredi
02-20-2003, 06:42 AM
98svt

I am not trying to stir up a hornets nest or anything JS, just wondering why. I dont want to argue or offend anyone or even cut-down Flashkit. I wouldn't be where I'm at today if not for FK, honestly. Ihaved learned so much from this place and adore it to death and will be back for more info and to help as much as I can. But I don't think what has happened is right.

I dont know what else to say! It's hard to defend yourself when you don't even know the real reason why I can not display a simple 3kb image of flashkit.

Frustrated, disappointed, confused

Mike
02-20-2003, 06:44 AM
jstarkey

Quote:

Originally posted by 98svt

I think it was a little "vague" dont you? No reason why. If this is the reason, then why wouldn't he have stated that in the email? It would have been corrected immediately. I do not want to step on any toes or cause any legal problems for anyone. If being a partner is paying for Flashkits bills, then where do I sign up?

Ok, I'm 110% sure it was an honest misunderstanding. Dave wasn't aware that the logo was one we supply for links.

There's absolutely no problem with using that icon, it's just the claim that you're endorsed by FK/Jupitermedia, that was a problem.

The FK partner program stuff is handled by Dave. If you reply to that message he'll give you the details.
02-20-2003, 06:44 AM
98svt

Ok Fredi, does that qualify me to have the text "Swiftdev Partners" on my site? Probably not. If it does, I will get the credit card and pay.
It most likely does not.

Mike

Thanks for the link though!

Just read the "Terms of Participation"

Quote:

6.You may only post listings for your Flash Designer Services. Jupitermedia prohibits all other listings or sale of the following goods or services for any reason, including but not limited to any item that is illegal to sell under any applicable law, statute, ordinance or regulation including the following:

Food,
Alcoholic beverages,
Firearms, ammunition, explosive materials,
Cigarettes or any other tobacco product for human consumption,
Pharmaceuticals or any other controlled substance or paraphernalia,
Dangerous, counterfeit or stolen goods,
Goods which do not actually exist,
Body parts or remains,
Any good that infringes or violates anyone's rights,
Software programs designed to disrupt computer or other equipment,
Pirated computer programs or links to such programs,
Pirated music or tablature or links to such files,
Any type of cracker utility,
Stocks and other securities,
Illegal goods,
Profane or sexually explicit advertisements or requests,
Misleading offers,
"bait & switch" of products,
Postings that offer no items for sale,This would exclude swiftdev since it is non profit
Make-money fast schemes,
pyramid or chain letters,
Fraudulent or criminal offers,
Postings with the goal of harassment of another,
Fraudulent advertisements,
Unsolicited email ("SPAM"),
Any posting which constitutes a raffle or contest that require any type of entry fee,
Postings that are a request, solicitation, or advertisement for an employment position,
Files or information used to circumvent manufacturer-installed copy-protect devices, including serial or registration numbers for software programs,
Any posting which discloses personal or private information concerning any person or entity, including without limitation phone number(s) or addresses, credit debit cards, calling card, User account numbers/ passwords or similar financial information, and home phone numbers or addresses,
Any item which in Jupitermedia's sole discretion is inflammatory, offensive or otherwise inconsistent with Jupitermedia's standards of business ethics, and
Any messages, data, or images which in Jupitermedia's sole discretion is obscene or which contain racial, ethnic, religious slurs or derogatory epithets, or advocating violence, hate or other language that is offensive or harassing.

Mike
02-20-2003, 08:48 AM
aversion

it seems like it was a simple misunderstanding which could have been cleared up in five minutes by emailing john or david. I don't see why your first reaction, no matter how "frustrated, disappointed, confused", was to post this in the FK forums instead of seeking clarification directly.

:confused:
02-20-2003, 09:18 AM
BlinkOk

just out of interest. are you mods paid?
02-20-2003, 09:21 AM
swampy

I'm moving this to feedback. seems a more appropriate place for it
02-20-2003, 09:34 AM
BlinkOk

and my question?
02-20-2003, 09:36 AM
swampy

no, we don't get paid, although I beleive Starkey gets some pocket money.
02-20-2003, 09:49 AM
aversion

nope, believe it or not we give our time for the community, not the pay.
02-20-2003, 09:56 AM
BlinkOk

you are truly selfless individuals. may you all live in interesting times
02-20-2003, 02:02 PM
qetret

Quote:

Originally posted by BlinkOk
and my question?

sshhhhh.....your not supposed to talk about that :D
02-20-2003, 02:26 PM
jstarkey

Quote:

Originally posted by swampy
no, we don't get paid, although I beleive Starkey gets some pocket money.

They promised me that once the site makes it, I'd get rich. They said it was a deal of a lifetime.:D

I'm paid, for the webmaster stuff.
02-20-2003, 02:56 PM
jamble

Quote:

Originally posted by jstarkey
They promised me that once the site makes it, I'd get rich. They said it was a deal of a lifetime.:D

I'm paid, for the webmaster stuff.

so the talk of $0.02 was in fact real?! :D
02-20-2003, 03:33 PM
98svt

Quote:

Originally posted by aversion
it seems like it was a simple misunderstanding which could have been cleared up in five minutes by emailing john or david. I don't see why your first reaction, no matter how "frustrated, disappointed, confused", was to post this in the FK forums instead of seeking clarification directly.

:confused:

Ok, you are right. But I did respond to Dave's email immediately after I recieved the email. Still no response from Dave or anyone else at Flashkit.
First of all, if this thread was "jumping the gun", I do apologize. But I HAVE replied to the email with no response as of yet. So I figured I seek an answer from the forum. So far, I have receieved some great replies as well as advice.
I figured this thread would have been locked or deleted, instead it got moved. What was the reason for moving it? Because the coffee lounge isn't the right place to question Flashkit's policies?

I have decided to sweep this under the fug. If Flashkit does not want the traffic Swiftdev can point in their direction, so be it. I will not display Flashkit's banner on any of my sites.

It's that simple, problem solved. As for the reason I have been given, I'm still not satisfied until I hear from Dave.

Mike

CLOSE THIS THREAD IF YOU SEE IT NECESSARY
02-20-2003, 04:39 PM
jstarkey

Quote:

Originally posted by 98svt
Ok, you are right. But I did respond to Dave's email immediately after I recieved the email. Still no response from Dave or anyone else at Flashkit.
First of all, if this thread was "jumping the gun", I do apologize. But I HAVE replied to the email with no response as of yet. So I figured I seek an answer from the forum.

Your sarcastic reply to him is dated 3:57 am (not sure of the time zone). This thread was started at 3:55 am your time (assuming you're in Central). In the best case scenerio, you expected him to reply before 5am or you were going to start an issue on the boards?

Quote:

What was the reason for moving it? Because the coffee lounge isn't the right place to question Flashkit's policies?
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The Feedback forum is for talking to staff and mods. Your issue is due to a misunderstanding between you and the staff.
02-21-2003, 12:34 AM
98svt

The email was recieved at 3:05 PM and was replied to around 6:00PM.

I also don't consider this "an issue". It was a question to why I was asked to remove the link.

Mike
02-21-2003, 04:28 AM
swampy

Quote:

Originally posted by jstarkey
They promised me that once the site makes it, I'd get rich. They said it was a deal of a lifetime.:D

I'm paid, for the webmaster stuff.

but not for the jokes, obviously. ;)
02-21-2003, 04:32 AM
swampy

Quote:

Originally posted by 98svt

I figured this thread would have been locked or deleted, instead it got moved. What was the reason for moving it? Because the coffee lounge isn't the right place to question Flashkit's policies?

I moved it from the lounge because the feedback forum is the correct forum for this type of stuff. If these sort of threads are, left in tehe lounge they tend to turn into arguments and flames PDQ as loungers who feel they have FK's best or worst interest at heart join in.