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I wanted to let you guys know that Utah beeer sucks!! 3.2 % of alcohlol (sorry Spelling)
other states around 6.2 %
Alot of you may not know this, Utah beer is under the amount of alcohlol (soory I donb't know how to spell this) of other states
I have had a few beers of Cali beer and Wyoming beer and it is great compared to theis watered down stuff we have here.
and this insn't a PWD post hehe!!!
PCRIDE
it varies from state to state... I think SC disallows 5.x percent, unless it's labeled as malt liquor or import.
I got some great german beer right now. about 8.x% or so :D
If you want really really good American micro brew (that also happens to have a high alcohol content as luck would have it check out Dogfish Head
It is from Deleware..I think they only ship out to a handfull of close by states (Im in PA so I am one of the lucky ones)...but their beers are usually 7% and up (With their seasonal- very limited availabitly 120 Minute IPA coming in at 21% ABV)
Oh and also the Worldwide stout that comes in at 23.04% ABV ( I just found out about this tonite!)
Damn good stuff and if you are a true beer drinker you NEED to check their beers out..I am currently working on a case of Punkin Ale "A full-bodied, spiced brown ale brewed with real pumpkins,cinnamon, nutmeg, and brown sugar.
7.0 % ABV
Delicious :)
Oh and as a side note..the 120 Minute IPA costs $125 a case, so start saving now!
You gotta watch out, higher alcohol content doesn't necessarily mean better beer. There’s a certain limit it can get up to (around 7% I think) before it starts tasting more like some kind of bastardised wine than beer.
Around 5-6% is ideal from my many samplings of beers around the world.
And IMO Germany and the Czech Republic make the best beer by far... I found that any of the half decent beers in the States (which were almost always the local stuff or the microbrewers) could trace their origins to German immigrants or similar...
I didn't say higher alcohol makes a better beer..I just said it was a nice bonus :)
Seriously though, Dogfish Head beer is like a fine (in your words) wine...It is not your father's microbrew...
and california has crap beer theres a few good micro brews like Mendicino County brew and Humbolt County brew and maybee one more but besides that cali beer is just the same old Corona, MGD, Budweiser, and Coors.
We do have our cheap beers that taste like crap but get you sloppy drunk like 8mm, King Cobra, amd OE but thats if you just want to chug a few 40s and get waisted.
Ew. I had their Immort. Leaves a tree-sap finish afterwards.Quote:
Originally posted by phenomenalCat
If you want really really good American micro brew (that also happens to have a high alcohol content as luck would have it check out Dogfish Head
I'll stick to me Newcastle, Molson and Sammy Octoberfest when it's in season.
Sam Adams makes a bock that comes corked. It's technically a brandy.
Do you mean Sam Adams Triple Bock? It comes in Vicks-Vapor-Rub-blue, 9 Oz bottles....$125/case???Quote:
Sam Adams makes a bock that comes corked. It's technically a brandy.
If so, that stuff is the bomb...haven't had that since since like '96.....Wow!!!!!! That brings back memories... :)
Really Immort ale was no good? That was next on my "hitlist".....expensive, like $45 I believe...
i drink about 10 beers a year, and they are all newcastles.
Alcohol content has very little to do with the overall taste of beer. The ingredients used and the brewing process are more determining factors. Delirium Tremens, made in Belgium, which has won many awards, has an alcohol content of over 8 percent. It's some of the best tasting beer around. Belgium makes the best beer in the world IMO. Just found a grocery store that sells the Tremens and Leffe, and some other German Weissbeer. It's expensive but well worth it for the beer fans. I'm a big fan of beer and if you guys are looking for some new microbrews in the US you should check out FAT TIRE, brewed in Colorado and MAGIC HAT, brewed in Vermont. For those in DC, check out the Brickskeller, for a sampling of thousands of different beers from around the world.
Then I'll have to try that sometime. So far I've found any beer with anything over 8% is almost not beer anymore, including the ones I've tried at the Belgian beer cafe in Sydney.Quote:
Originally posted by Visionray
Delirium Tremens, made in Belgium, which has won many awards, has an alcohol content of over 8 percent. It's some of the best tasting beer around.
And remember, I'm refering to "beer", not ales or cider...
;o)
Ale is beer. It's one of the two major styles of beer, along with lager. It's just top fermented while lager is bottom fermented, but they are both beers. You consider "beer" to be just lager I guess, but that only accounts for less than half of the world's beers. Lager is everything from crappy Busch/Coors/Bud light all the way to German pilsiner, and since they are bottom fermented, they don't have as much alchohol. So yea if you're drinking a lager with extra alcohol it's probably added in, which would probably taste like crap. Do you like Ale?Quote:
Originally posted by TheOriginalFlashDavo
Then I'll have to try that sometime. So far I've found any beer with anything over 8% is almost not beer anymore, including the ones I've tried at the Belgian beer cafe in Sydney.
And remember, I'm refering to "beer", not ales or cider...
;o)
Check out this site.
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/style/
Just found it a few months ago. These beer reviewers go crazy with details. Pretty cool site. :D
And yes I know technically ale is beer - just as bitter is - but I prefer to differentiate between the two, since they are two very different beasts.
And many dark ales are - to my tastes - somewhere along that path between a lager and a type of wine. I do recall talking to some guy in a brewery in either Holland or Germany, and part of what he said was that if the beer was brewed too long it would increase the alcohol content, but would stop tasting like beer, and my savouring of certain high alcohol beers (or lagers) in Europe reinforced that.
So yes, before my initial comments about "beer" I should have differentiated between lager and ales, of which I am not an afficionado of, no matter how many I have tried.
It's a little like wine and port. I like a good wine with dinner, but cannot stand port.
One of my favorties is Bodingtons, really creamy and frothy. Dont know what the alcohol content is though. :)
Indeed.Quote:
Originally posted by TheOriginalFlashDavo
You gotta watch out, higher alcohol content doesn't necessarily mean better beer. There’s a certain limit it can get up to (around 7% I think) before it starts tasting more like some kind of bastardised wine than beer.
Carlsberg Elephant brew weighs in at about 8% and by god, it's disgusting.
I'd rather drink Thunderbird.
What's the word? Thunderbird!
I thought that most beer in the US was around 3.5%? I'm pretty sure that all Bud in the US is set to this level, for example.
IIRC, Chimay's trappist ales are around 8%.
tasty too
That stuff's well nice.Quote:
Originally posted by PAlexC
IIRC, Chimay's trappist ales are around 8%.
tasty too
Me like Chimay.
:)
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I thought that most beer in the US was around 3.5%? I'm pretty sure that all Bud in the US is set to this level, for example.
That's it... I'm finally convinced you were a wino in your previous life in the US.Quote:
Originally posted by hurricaneone
I'd rather drink Thunderbird.
Thunderbird? Dude, it's 2.25 for a bottle of "wine"... or swill, or whatever it's classified as now. wow, you're ghetto 'cane.
There's a place in Philly called Monk's that serves it along with some of the best Belgium has to offer. Haven't even found any place like it in NYC.Quote:
Originally posted by hurricaneone
That stuff's well nice.
Me like Chimay.
:)
They also have a platter with Chimay cheeses (very good in fact), fruit, grain bread and sausage that goes awesome with the Chimay beers. Best. Lunch. Ever.
no, hard to belive, beer company's make a lower content just for Utah.
I drank a wyoming beer and a cali beer and its like drinking 2 beers and tastes beter. Utah beer is watered down tasting. If you don't belive me I can send you some and see for your self.
The alcohol in beer made and shipped to Utah used to be measured using an outdated scale: ABW (ALCOHOL BY WEIGHT) The rest of the U.S and the world measure on a different scale ABV (ALCOHOL BY VOLUME). Utah for many years has been using the ABV scale but people still think of the iold one; ABW.
To put it simply, 3.2% ABW = 4.0% ABV. The average beer made in the U.S. is not made around 6.5%ABV as was previously mentioned, but between 4.5%-5.0 % Which makes a difference of 1% - 0.5% on average. Not alot. And as for the Statment "Utah beer sucks" Utah beer has won many national and international awards. :)
How did you manage to dig this thread up?
Well, utah beer is good, what i am saying is the beer you buy at the the gorcery store here in utah is alot differant than the same beer in the liquor store here in utah,
Yes Heiniken has more alchol in the liqiour store than it does in the grocery store here.
most other states have the same beer in the grocery store as in the liqour store.
So that proves that a Budwiser in Utah is less alcohol than a beer in lets say Vegas.
If the beer is the same ABW VS ABV then why do they sell the beer cheaper in the grocery store vs the same beer in the liqor store.
obviously the liqour store beer has more alcohol.
spelling sucks :(
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How did you manage to dig this thread up?
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Ya this one is old, I think it came up in a search somewhere.
It was that way when I lived in Minnesota.
You had to get to the liquor store before they closed at 8 or you would have to buy 3.2 at the convenience store.
On Sunday no liquor sales were allowed so we would have to drive to Wisconson.
do yourselves a favour
http://www.alcoholics-anonymous.org/
Since this thread started, I moved in with someone who knows the guys that founded Dogfish Head, they graduated from his fraternity right before he started.
And I still think a lot of their stuff is overrated.
That's all I have.
Belgium beer is probably the best overall beer. I'm not sure about german beer though, i dodn't drink alot of it.
I'm more a brown (sweeter) beer fan then a blonde beer fan (a la heineken). And i rather drink from the tap then from a bottle.
But that last statement has been watered down a bit since i tasted Pauwel Kwak. Wich blowed me away for great taste. It tasted like a palm from the tap, wich imho is a great tasting beer from tap but just plain sucks when you drink it from a bottle (be it a big champagne sized bottle or those little one glass bottles).
I'm not sure about the US but there is really a huge assortiment of beer. Holland is a beer producing country (who doesn't know heineken) and next to Germany and Belgium. It's not hard to find a beer to match your taste and character.
-for good tasting strong beer try grolsch "het kanon" Traditional dutch beer 11.6% alcohol.
-for a great tasting sweet amber beer (my personal favorite at the moment) try Pauwel kwak 8%
-and seriously the only blonde beer i've tasted that i really really like is "wit ros". I havn't found it in a shop yet though, i think it's only for the tap. but i havn't been searching for it really. If anyone knows a place where to get this truly magnificant belgium beer tell me(and buy a crate for yourself :))
ofcourse there's always the great somewhat larger names that are rather good for the price. like Palm, Koninck, Leffe, Westmalle, Hertog Jan, Hoegaarden, jupiler
my advice, always go for tap. It just tastes much better then bottle or cans (cans really suck btw). But there are some rare beers that just feel right, right out of the bottle.
p.s. what the hell is micro beer or brewery or something like that?
* belch
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