http://www.mychoice.ca - Fighting for smoker's right...

Take a look at http://www.mychoice.ca

It's an organization here in Canada (I know, ONLY in Canada could we have this:)) helping smokers to fight for their rights, funded by (suprise) the canadian tobacco council.

"Research shows Canada’s adult smokers are tired of feeling powerless and voiceless as they are hit time and again with increasing taxes, more severe restrictions, and social stigmatization."

It may be just me, but the whole presentation of this seems so funny, especially with the stock footage of smiling happy people. I'm all for letting people smoke and have their 'rights' as long as they don't affect me. But it's almost as if they're setting themselves up for ridicule by presenting themselves as an oppressed group.

Someone should make a plastic airtight bubble they could put around their heads, then they could go anywhere and smoke, have their rights, but not violate my right not to be poisoned in public.

I thought this'd be a legalize it thread.

If you need your nicotine fix that bad ... chew. Completely discreet, less harmful to yourself and not harmful to others.

Make every 1000th cig contain an explosive charge... tada! No more smokers! :)

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Originally posted by Markp.com
Make every 1000th cig contain an explosive charge... tada! No more smokers! :)

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hmm
how big is the charge? i would hate for fiberglass shrapnel to pierce my soft skin.

Just enough to remove a few digits :)

Let them try and quit, if not, I'm sure they'll quit after loosing a pinky :D

I'm making these jokes because people just don't get that by smoking you're going to get cancer and die... Could be of the tounge, throat, lungs, anywhere, not to mention any of the other thousand or so illnesses it brings... but each to their own... if they want to die a long, slow painful death, then good luck to them, just don't let it effect my quality of life.

that's the good thing about living in the third world. They don't care that much.

Although there are some restaurants that don't let you smoke.

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Originally posted by argonauta
that's the good thing about living in the third world. They don't care that much.

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That's a good thing?

everyone has the right to smoke and put whatever chemicals they want on their bodies.

noone has the right to smoke and put chemicals in MY body.


And lets face it, smokers cost the economy millions of £ by getting sick and using up all our health resources.

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Originally posted by Markp.com
I'm making these jokes because people just don't get that by smoking you're going to get cancer and die... Could be of the tounge, throat, lungs, anywhere, not to mention any of the other thousand or so illnesses it brings... but each to their own... if they want to die a long, slow painful death, then good luck to them, just don't let it effect my quality of life.

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Indeed, cancer is definitely not the way to go!! :zombie:

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Originally posted by defuzz
And lets face it, smokers cost the economy millions of £ by getting sick and using up all our health resources.

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I'm sure they more than make up for that in taxes. Personally for selfish reasons I'd welcome a ban in all public places but I think its wrong to say they dont currently pay their way.

if all the money from taxing smokers went into the health system, then maybe it would be OK, but the disproportionate of funding compared to the huge drain on the health service means they are shafting the NHS for all of us.





"It is true that NHS costs are lower than tobacco tax revenues. Tobacco taxation amounts to £10.5 billion per year whereas a figure for NHS spending on tobacco related disease is £1.7 billion. But so what? The comparison is a false one. Tobacco tax is not and never has been a down payment on the cost dealing with ill health caused by smoking"

Clive Bates, Director, Action on Smoking and Health, London
http://www.ash.org.uk/html/smuggling/html/whytax99.html

*** lights up another smoke.... :mrpimp:*** Outside so I don't hear the complaining.

The only reason i want to stop smoking...
Is cause it's bad for me. I guess walking down the street and inhaling fumes of cars is half as bad for you...

And people in here who drink alcohol shouldn't throw rocks either... just as bad.

And people who....

There are different kinds of people... some will smoke, some will act as if a Smoker is a child of the devil...


*** sticks another sigarette in his mouth and waits for the flamers posts to light his sigarette ***

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Originally posted by fospher.com
I thought this'd be a legalize it thread.

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Same here what a dissapointment. Requires highjackin

LEGALIZE IT!!!

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Originally posted by SpockBert
I'm sure they more than make up for that in taxes.

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they don't though, that's one of the health service's biggest complaints. Not only do tax revenues from smokers not exceed the amount they estimate it costs to treat them but as mentioned above not all the revenue goes to health care anyway.

It's like scotland, banning them would save the english a lot of money.

:)

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Originally posted by aversion
It's like scotland, banning them would save the english a lot of money.

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Hahahahahaha :D

I've been a smoker since the age of 11. (12 years now...) In that time, I have had 20 months smoke free. I restarted two years ago.

I fully appreciate the right of non-smokers not to breathe my smoke. To ensure that I do this, when away from the privacy of my home, I smoke only in well ventilated areas, and I ensure that the smoke does not meander into the sensitive airstreams of non-smokers.

I am personally aware of the dangers of smoking (all four of my grandparents have died as a result of smoking induced cancer).

I have comprehensive medical insurance that will completely pay for any future medical treatment that I will need, and I pay an additional premium because I smoke. The NHS is subsidised by my smoking habit (and the voluntary additional tax burden I attach to myself).

Given my consideration for the impact of my habit on others, there is just one thing I would ask... for non-smokers to stop carping on at me. I enjoy smoking, and I pay for the privilege. I am hopelessly addicted to the stuff, and will remain so until given a big enough incentive to quit (such as impending offspring).

Not all smokers are inconsiderate, and I hope non-smokers can see beyond their distaste for the habit to realise this.


Oh, and smoking makes you look cool ;) :mrpimp:

tobacco is the dumbest thing I smoke

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Originally posted by cosmiceye
tobacco is the dumbest thing I smoke

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Alright Danny, we get it... you're a drugs guy... Jeeeze... stop going on about it already! :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by MrChuckles
I've been a smoker since the age of 11. (12 years now...) In that time, I have had 20 months smoke free. I restarted two years ago.

I fully appreciate the right of non-smokers not to breathe my smoke. To ensure that I do this, when away from the privacy of my home, I smoke only in well ventilated areas, and I ensure that the smoke does not meander into the sensitive airstreams of non-smokers.

I am personally aware of the dangers of smoking (all four of my grandparents have died as a result of smoking induced cancer).

I have comprehensive medical insurance that will completely pay for any future medical treatment that I will need, and I pay an additional premium because I smoke. The NHS is subsidised by my smoking habit (and the voluntary additional tax burden I attach to myself).

Given my consideration for the impact of my habit on others, there is just one thing I would ask... for non-smokers to stop carping on at me. I enjoy smoking, and I pay for the privilege. I am hopelessly addicted to the stuff, and will remain so until given a big enough incentive to quit (such as impending offspring).

Not all smokers are inconsiderate, and I hope non-smokers can see beyond their distaste for the habit to realise this.


Oh, and smoking makes you look cool ;) :mrpimp:

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Glad you are considerate, and that you are paying extra... its just shame that not all smokers are like this... I'd say that over half of them don't care who they smoke on, or how much of a strain it puts on the economy.

When you get all smokers to act like you do, I'll stop complaining :)

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Originally posted by Markp.com
When you get all smokers to act like you do, I'll stop complaining :)

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Fair enough :)

To be honest, I'd almost welcome a ban on smoking in public - in return for work providing a comfortable and well ventilated smoking room - getting rid of the complaints of vehement anti-smokers and getting drenched whilst smoking outside at a stroke

;)

smoker's rights is a joke.
i can't even believe it's 'a thing'.

what's next - special roads for the drunk drivers? :rolleyes:

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what's next - special roads for the drunk drivers? :rolleyes: [/B]

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W00t now there is an idea!!!

I'd say to non-smokers, "Get Over It!" 25% of the populations smokes. They ain't going to go away, and as long as tobacco companies can get fines bigger than the cost of the Iraq war, it's going to continue. There isn't a politician worthy of the name that's going to ban it. He'll be too busy stuffing his pockets with thousand dollar bills.

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Originally posted by Markp.com
Alright Danny, we get it... you're a drugs guy... Jeeeze... stop going on about it already! :rolleyes:

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I have never been this insulted in my whole day. You are jumping to conclusions... where on earth did you get that idea, my dear, and dont you know I am a responsible father of 2 children? I dont do drugs... I AM DRUGS!!!™

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Originally posted by cosmiceye I am a responsible father of 2 children? I dont do drugs... I AM DRUGS!!!™

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You're an idiot... :rolleyes:

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Originally posted by MrChuckles
Fair enough :)

To be honest, I'd almost welcome a ban on smoking in public - in return for work providing a comfortable and well ventilated smoking room - getting rid of the complaints of vehement anti-smokers and getting drenched whilst smoking outside at a stroke

;)

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Sounds like a deal... now if only we can convince the rest of the world :D

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Originally posted by Markp.com
You're an idiot... :rolleyes:

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love you to, now apologize for calling me an idiot.

I adgree with smokers rights. They should have the same rights as everyone else, and that is no one should be able to smoke in public. Non smokers and smokers alike. No one can do it. Equal rights.

Thats my take.

Well thankfully health, common sense, and public desire are winning out, and public places are slowly being changed to non-smoking places.

Get over it? If I don't have to breathe in someone's tobacco - ever - then I'll have no problems with smokers. And if every smoker was as considerate as My Chuckles, there wouldn't be half the issue there is currently.

Anyway, we're very shortly seeing smoke-free bars being compulsory in Oz, and not about time. I'm a bit over my clothes (and me!) smelling like stale tobacco the following day.

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Originally posted by cosmiceye
I AM DRUGS!!!™

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I hope to see you on the drugfestopia next summer, idiot

Signed,
idiot

that does it. bye.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

...im dropping you an email.

Guddam mark, I wouldve expected better from a mod in 3 forums.

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Originally posted by fospher.com

Guddam mark, I wouldve expected better from a mod in 3 forums.

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now Im back :yarr:

Its not if you are dying of smoke or something......I mean, what's the problem with any one sitting or standing beside a smoker. I surely don't have any while smoking. Ciggs. is a birth-right of every grown-up. They can smoke whenever and whereever they want..........even this says that smoking is good :yarr:

I respect the rights of everyone but I don't respect the person who chose to smoke out of sheer "pleasure" and gleefully poisoning me.

Do I move away? Why should I? I have the rights.

I detest trying to cough out the crap every time I walk past a person smoking out chimneys or coming out of bars smelling of crap. :mad:

Kid: Don't take drugs or take up smoking.... Be cool, not a fool ;)

i'm a smoker i love smoking
i will smoke everywhere every time:mrpimp:

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Originally posted by TheOriginalFlashDavo
I'm a bit over my clothes (and me!) smelling like stale tobacco the following day.

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Agreed.

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Originally posted by tonytryout
I respect the rights of everyone but I don't respect the person who chose to smoke out of sheer "pleasure" and gleefully poisoning me.

Do I move away? Why should I? I have the rights.

I detest trying to cough out the crap every time I walk past a person smoking out chimneys or coming out of bars smelling of crap. :mad:

Kid: Don't take drugs or take up smoking.... Be cool, not a fool ;)

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Better stay out of places like Kentucky then, cause even in the courthouses, they have standup ashtrays every 10 feet in the lines leading up to the license plate desk.

But I see what your saying, you want rights, but others can't have any if they conflict with your idea of rights.

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Originally posted by iaskwhy
But I see what your saying, you want rights, but others can't have any if they conflict with your idea of rights.

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Tell you what, you can do ANYTHING you want, so long as it doesn't impact or effect me. Deal?

So if you can keep all that cigarette smoke inside your lungs, and not breathe it out into the air that I then breathe, you can go right ahead and smoke where ever you damn well want.

And I'll have exactly the same freedom. See, equal rights to do anything so long as it doesn't harm others. Really simple concept.

Hell, it's more freedom than many are offering gay couples. :rolleyes:

Tell ya what. I'll go ahead and smoke whenever I damn well please, whether you like it or not. OK? If you don't want to breathe smoke, then you hold your breath. Why should your rights carry any more weight than mine?