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Yeah right you say, but have a look at this
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40 seconds and its still the intro. i dont have that kinda attention span sorry.
I know, but the nice fonts make up for that ;)
try here instead, it explains how it works.
Hey! Heavy special effects on that intro!
Was this guy murdered?
From the limited reading I've done apparently after taking a job at the Pentagon to provide WFC converters for use on tanks he was at a celebration dinner, stood up and yelled out that he'd been poisoned then ran out into the parking lot where he collapsed and died.Quote:
Originally Posted by MagnusVS
When I get some free time I'll see if I can find any reputable news sources for this story.
It's very intriguing... I would like to know what happened to his computer, his notes, the working prototype he used to get the patent and the dunebuggy with the engine conversion kit...
Very intriguing indeed.
They talk about that guy on this site as well.
http://www.waterpoweredcar.com/
Man, after watching that video I'm furious. I mean, there it is and what became of it!? Nothing! This link almost deserves to be in the wtf thread. I've got half a mind to dedicate myself to finishing his work. grrr
I feel the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by jAQUAN
Unfortunately, it's not "finishing" his work that needs to be done.
He already finished it and made it work.
Coast to coast roadtrip in a dunebuggy on nothing but 28 gallons of tapwater...
What needs to be done now is for you to become a supergenius and rediscover from scratch his breakthrough that seemingly defies the law of conservation of energy that no other electrical engineer on the planet can figure out...
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Originally Posted by Loyal Rogue
Are you saying that there are people going over his work as we speak? There's no way the ideas would dawn on me (well maybe) but I'm sure if I had his notes and a prototype I could grow to understand it in under 2 years.
What I mean by finish is refine it into a durable, heavily tested, safe unit that can be mass produced and basically prepare it for consumption. I'd wanna take it from a sience project to a product.
From those websites it seems as if there are a few groups going over his work. The cool thing about his invention is that it splits water from a physics point of view instead of a chemists point of view. This means that chemists can't point their finger and say "breaking water requirers exactly the same amount of energy as making water!".
It's a hoax.
Let's see, some poor video of some miraculous invention that nobody can duplicate, an elusive free source of energy, and the guy is dead.
Sounds like cold fusion and the 200 mile per gallon carburetor rolled into one. :thumbsdow
It might be, but then its a patented hoax.
In case you missed it, all 4 part of that video are linked here. Extremely low res and terrible sound but its watchable.
http://www.waterpoweredcar.com/stanmeyer.html
Stop that Geez, let me hope. :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElGeez
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Originally Posted by Ask The Geezer
i wonder if somebody ever told you when you were a kid: 'you know, in 50 years, everybody will carry a tiny tiny phone with which you can also take photos and make movies!'.....nah! a hoax, that device is impossible (at least i guess it was not possible a few decades ago), right?
So you've never heard of the Dick Tracy wrist 2-way radio with TV? That was more than 50 years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by argonauta
http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/d/diktracy.htm
Free energy!
Whoopty doo!
There is plenty of free energy all around us(sun, lightining, hydrogen in the air and water, radio active elements)
We just aren't smart enough yet to efficiently store this energy for later use.
Yup, its a hoax, look it up on wikipedia and even a quick google will show you how often its been debunked.
I wouldn't be suprised if he hadn't faked his own death...
The only place I didn't look was Wikipedia :(
for the rest of you
Yup it's a hoax...Quote:
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Of course it's possible to drive cars that uses hydrogen as fuel and releases nothing but H2O. But they already exists and the main difference is that the fuel is hydrogene and not water. (the splitting of the molecules into hydrogene must be done before fueling.)
That's what he was hoaxing on. He said he could split the water so fast, you could do it right in the car as you were driving. Right away, I was suspicious of that.Quote:
the splitting of the molecules into hydrogene must be done before fueling.)
Ever seen how one of those "honey dippers" work? Got a big steel tank on the back, they back up to your septic tank and drop a huge hose into the hole, then pull a lever and it sucks it out into the tank in like minutes. They don't use a mechanical pump at all. All it is is the top of the tank has a pipe that goes into the truck engine compartment and is hooked to a plate under the carburetor of the engine. The partial vacuum of that truck running just over an idle, is enough to evacuate the tank, and suck the dumplings up into it.
So just imagine that, and how much gaseous hydrogen it would take to run a car, and you see how his little bottle of bubbles could never work.
In theory, you could easily fuel a car with a tank of water. Hydrogen has more potential energy than petrol, so again in theory, less of it could power something for longer/further.
Its just the current electrolysis methods can't break down the water quickly enough to power a traditional engine.
I believe its possible, just need a way of speeding it all up :)
As we've said before, electricity is the answer and things like this look very interesting (if true).
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Russian scientists have invented a battery that can capture energy not only from the sun, but also from the stars, the head of a research institute at the Dubna Nuclear Institute, near Moscow, said.
"The scientists have successfully created a new substance," Valentin Samoilov announced, "thanks to which this battery can work on earth, independently of meteorological conditions, using solar and stellar energy.
"This is a battery like no other," Samoilov, who head's the Institute's center for applied research, told the Itar-Tass news agency, explaining that it could function 24 hours a day and was twice as effective as an ordinary solar panel at converting light into electricity.
Moreover, Samoilov declared, the new battery was cheaper than a solar panel.
© 2006 AFP
Well... If you could use all the energy in water (mixing antiparticles with normal atoms) you could use Einstein's law (E=mc2) to find out how much energy you would get. 1 kg of water would give enormeous amounts of energy. (we're talking about enough energy for the entire world for several years or so)Quote:
Originally Posted by Markp.com
(antiparticles and normal atoms mix and the matter is transformed into pure energy)
Our technology isn't developed so that we can do this though (even though the CERN in switzerland has sucsessfully managed to make antiparticles that exists a 1/100 of a second or so...)
That is so hoaxy. They say there was guy who could walk on water too, but I'm sceptical. So let's see a demonstration.Quote:
"This is a battery like no other," Samoilov, who head's the Institute's center for applied research, told the Itar-Tass news agency, explaining that it could function 24 hours a day and was twice as effective as an ordinary solar panel at converting light into electricity.
Hahahahaha anti particles :D Good one :DQuote:
Originally Posted by MagnusVS
I'm reality, utilising hydrogen in a standard engine would be fine, maybe in a browns gas solution, no need for an fancy anti particles ;)
It does sound like a hoax IAW, but I'd be all ears for a demonstration under lab conditions (unless it only works outdoors) ;)
Yeah, I'm just tired of reading 3 paragraph stories about miraculous scientific discoveries that no one else knows about. For once, I'd love to see a REAL 200 mile per gallon carburetor. I'd even pay admission to see one in a museum, or any one of the other fantastic claims people are making. :D
forget seeing one in a museum. I'd want one for testing.
However, I'm seriously after a hydrogen car... about darn time we go away from gasoline.
The problem is buying hydrogen to burn in it. although, there are in home hydrogen refuelers you can buy now, and hydrogen generators to produce it.
Here's an interesting Honda hydrogen car.
If the money and effort wasted on Iraq had been spent on getting this rolling, we wouldn't need the oil they aren't producing, now that we've made a total mess of things.
What's so funny about it? It's a very interesting knowledge that probably will be important in the future... "Flying an maching into the space :D Good one :D" ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Markp.com
I wrote wrong by the way... It's called antimatter
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Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Well it's not miraculous. It's high school physics (and Einstein's most famous equation)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ask The Geezer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E%3Dmc2
High school physics is a long way from a working model. If it's already made, where is it?Quote:
It's high school physics
Exactly... its all pie in the sky stuff and can only be proved with mathematical formula that are reliant on abstract theories.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ask The Geezer
The theory is high school physics... It seemed like you didn't get that one...And markp: It might be abstract theories when you're not into physics, but when they actually managed to create antimatter, you should trust the theories to be rigth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ask The Geezer
Yeah, but whats the point in making antimatter just to destroy it again? You wont "earn" any energy.
Thats the problem with all energy. Nobody can create energy, we need to find it somewhere. Energy excists because the universe is not evenly spread out, but some places are hotter than others, some have a higher density of water and some might have a higher density of antimatter. On earth, the most common way to get energy is from the sun; Wind is caused by the sun, plants grow because of the sun, die, decompose and turn into oil or coal, hydroelectric plants work because the sun heats up water, makes it evaporate, move to mountains, condense and fall as rain. The energy sources that are not created by the sun alone is tidal energy (created by the sun and the moon) and geothermal energy. In all cases the energy is discovered, not created. For antimatter to work we need to find antimatter, not create it, as that would reqirer just as much energy as it would produce.
Hydrogen is not the solution to the energy crises, because it does not create energy, it only stores it. We can't find pure hydrogen to burn, and to split water we need another energy source. Fission energy is the most efficient energy source we have today, but as Chernobyl indicates, it is way too difficult to handle, and if something goes wrong it can destroy entire countries. Fussion will be interesting, as it won't produce any radioactive materials and is even more efficient than Fission.
hehehe more theories :D
Naaa, your wrong there. Chernobyl only shows that the russians are crappy designers and not to bright to begin with. The chernobyl reactor was the same kind of thing as they built under the stadium seats in Chicago to split the fitst atoms. Archaic, outdated and not meant to be a working reactor.Quote:
but as Chernobyl indicates, it is way too difficult to handle,
I have worked in three reactors, as a welder, when they were being constructed. Take a tour of one if you ever get the chance, you'll see, they are monstrously strong and not about to break unexpectedly. The floors are 4 feet thick, just in the buildings. The containments building is solid stainless steel several feet thick. Nowhere is there anything shoddy or cheap about the construction. If there is ever to be a problem, it'll be from man, not the machine.
You said it
The Chernobyl disaster started by an unauthorized experiment by a worker at the facilty. Granted had the system been up to U.S standards maybe the situation wouldn't have escalated. That's a big maybe.Quote:
it'll be from man, not the machine.
Coal is the primary source for electricity in the U.S.
http://www.eere.energy.gov/states/us...statistics.cfm
While not renewable it is not imported
Solar power while perhaps not being ideal for industry and commercial settings
is the most viable alternative to home owners<--why by the milk when you can own the cow
Bio diesel while less dependent on oil and cleaner buring then gasoline still requires Deisel to thin the vegtable oil. Unless of course you want to install a heater in your tank and along your fuel lines for those who live north of the mason dixie. The reason why diesel cars never caught on here (Michigan) was that they were just plain unreliable. Even with the car plugged in and in a garage many a morning the cars simply wouldn't start.
What the world is waiting for is a paint on photovoltaic electricity generating system. Start with any flat surface, paint on one coat, embed the positive wire in the wet paint, wait for it to dry. Paint on the second coat, embed the negative wire in the wet paint. Wait to dry and then plug the other end in to your fuse box. :D
patent that idea.
Actually, I think it's already been done. It's just incredibly inefficient.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...n+photovoltaic
"Nanosolar has developed a material of metal oxide nanowires that can be sprayed as a liquid onto a plastic substrate where it self-assembles into a photovoltaic film. A roll-to-roll process similar to high-speed printing offers a high-volume approach that doesn't require high temperatures or vacuum equipment. Nanosys intends for its solar coatings--based on structures called nanotetrapods--to be sprayed onto roofing tiles. And Konarka is developing plastic sheets embedded with titanium dioxide nanocrystals coated with light-absorbing dyes."
http://www.forbes.com/investmentnews...21soapbox.html
Here's what a wired nano looks like. See how small they are?
http://www.flashbax.com/images/banana.gif
Just to make things clear... Nobody can create energy. That's rigth, but matter is a kind of "energy". When you burn a piece of wood, it's partly transformed into ash and heat (another level of energy).Quote:
Originally Posted by ihoss.com
The thing with antimatter is that when it reacts with matter, the matter that we know (the one you can touch and feel) will be transformed into 100% energy. (will be turned into extreme heat and light (photons)) (The amount of energy is known with the equation e=mc^2 where m=mass and c=ligth of speed=3*10^8 (300.000.000 meters/second))
So the amounts of energy you would get from a fusion between matter and antimatter are enormeous.
Production is a problem though, so unless some new method is invented, "production" will be limited to research and not production of energy for commercial use.
(The way they make the antimatter particles now at CERN in Switzerland is is by accelerating hydrogen atoms into extreme speed in a long circular tunnel, using magnetism).
Read more here if you're interested.