Good luck, Vista upgraders

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Upgrade versions of Windows Vista Home Basic, Premium, and Starter Edition will not install on any PC unless Windows XP or Windows 2000 is already on the machine in question. In years previous, upgrade versions of Windows could be installed on any PC. If a PC did not have an older version of Windows installed, users could provide an older installation CD of Windows for verification. After dropping a qualifying CD in the CD-ROM drive, the installation routine would verify the disc and you'd be on your way. With this approach, one could use an "upgrade" copy of Windows to lay a new Windows install on a computer.

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For its part, Microsoft seems to be confident that the Vista repair process should be sufficient to solve any problems with the OS, since otherwise the only option for disaster recovery in the absence of backups would be to wipe a machine, install XP, and then upgrade to Vista. This will certainly make disaster recovery a more irritating experience.

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According to Microsoft, only the full retail license of Windows Vista can be transferred to new devices (retail pricing here). OEM versions are ostensibly tied to motherboards, and upgrade versions are now technically tied to previous installations.

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Get ready to fork it over, Daddy Balmer's stock price is too low for his liking.

I'm hoping Vista will be another short-lived mistake like the Millenium edition was. This is getting ridiculous.

wow... and it just keeps coming.

Do they hate customers?

MS and Sony are twin corporations on hating their customers dude. I thought you knew?

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MS and Sony are twin corporations on hating their customers dude. I thought you knew?

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Hehe.

Lucky my laptop comes with a free upgrade to "Vista Home Premium". :rolleyes:

I'd give up my Wii and Xbox 360 for vista home premium :( I have to get RAM upgrades which will set me back about £160 and then vista itself (according to Microsoft.com) should set me back £75 but it turns out PC world are selling at £150 which is the equivilant cost in dollars and we are meant to be 2:1 Why do microsoft make thier machines soo hard to upgrade.

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Originally Posted by tidenburg

Why do microsoft make thier machines soo hard to upgrade.

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Microsoft doesn't make the machines

Touche

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Originally Posted by tidenburg

I'd give up my Wii...

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How could this possibly not be quoted!?

this is pretty funny..
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=5932

I wonder how many other "holes" exist in this OS.

It's not a hole. It's a feature.

Day of the Tentacle. I finally figured out where the hell I'd seen your avatar. Been bothering me for like a year!

well its a feature i dont think they wanted everyone to know.. i mean.. why would i pay 400$ for vista ultimate retail now when i can just buy the upgrade? i mean. i already run rtm so i am just 'upgrading' anyways right..

Without holes, life would be boring, right? ;)

Fredi

Yep. Glad Apple finally fixed that Quicktime flaw reported months ago... last week or so.

Holes are everywhere. Especially in *nix based OS's.

Especially? Hello? I demand numbers to back that up, immediatly! ;)

Fredi

Demand all you want. However I made the fault of bringing in a security flaw like the Quicktime exploit, it's not the same as an upgrade loophole.

For security issues with *nix OS's, start with BIND exploits and look at Netfront how Apache/Linux servers were the majority of defaced/pwned sites last year.

Common knowledge. Thought you'd know that already :cap:

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Originally Posted by gerbick

Yep. Glad Apple finally fixed that Quicktime flaw reported months ago... last week or so.

Holes are everywhere. Especially in *nix based OS's.

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i remember posting a ? about mov files and if they could use js. this was before that 'virus' or whatever you wanna call it, spread through myspace. then i started researching vulnerabilities and omg there are alot. even a simple pdf file. whod have thought.

You can embed qt in a way that quicktime movies can't execute javascript. It really was the fault of Myspace (Ebay and others) to not check for that. If you allow users to embed things that can execute Javascript, it is just a question of time till some of them will use that feature to read out account cookies from other users. Guess why FK does'nt allow Flash sigs.

Fredi

yea i know.. i was a memeber in 2000

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but i cant remeber my old pw so i re regged. i remeber the day they were turned off. i was pretty bummed