If a man is diagnosed with testicular cancer and does not have it treated, what's a good estimation at how long it would take before they died from it?
anyones experience with this would be enlightening.
Thanks.
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If a man is diagnosed with testicular cancer and does not have it treated, what's a good estimation at how long it would take before they died from it?
anyones experience with this would be enlightening.
Thanks.
Depends if your name is Lance Armstrong or not.
depends on the severity of the cancer. not treated they will be dead within a few years.
depends on how fast it metastasizes (sp?). It can spread quickly to other body parts which could kill in a few months or even weeks. If it stays in the testicle, i assume it can be treated quite well and quickly.
Might want to PM Elenatari, he posted a thread about his bout with it a couple weeks ago.
Even if it's Stage 4, it can still be cured via removal. It all matters on the tumor size, if lymph nodes are involved/infected in either local or expanded into the pelvis/torso, and what not.
You can go years without incident from what I've read.
That's a strange question to ask "Hypothetically". If it is diagnosed, why would you not have it treated?
so you could take a poloroid a day documenting the death?
Do you think he may be asking about a friend?Quote:
Originally Posted by CVO Chris
Absolutely. It would be so foolish to not get treated immediately that it doesn't even make sense to entertain the question of what would happen if you didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by CVO Chris
How much does it cost to get treated? especially for someone that isn't covered by health insurance.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlashLackey
Can't you just call a hospital anonymously and ask these questions and most likely get better answers?
Costs will vary, but honestly... it's expenses can be structured and paid in monthly amounts. It's worth it.
I couldn't say. You would probably first need a general care examination at about $250. Then, a specialist examination at $350. Probably blood draws, etc. at around $100 for lab fees. Then, I'm guessing that x-rays or some kind of exploration would be in order for around $300.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vatcher
So, I think around $1-1500 to get an assessment of the situation. Then, it would depend on the treatment needed. A typical surgery costs about $7-14k to perform (not heart or brain surgey or anything). But, long term treatment for cancer can go up into the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
There may be forms of assistance available if you have no insurance and the condition is life-threatening to not treat. The best thing to do is to just get the process started to find out the severity and let the hospital know the situation. Hospitals are pretty much well-prepared for patients that don't have funds for the care. At the very least, they can explain what your options are. They will also typically offer better rates if they know you don't have insurance.
Thursday last, I underwent an ubilicle hernia op (belly button re-build), supurb treatment excellent staff. The cost? nothing, I'm very proud of the UK's civilised attitude to the health of it's subjects.
I'm a Canadian living in Japan, both countries have decent health insurance.
The Japanese system has a somewhat steep premium that increases with your income, but it functions much better than the free Canadian one (I can only speak for Ontario, specifically).
I've always wondered what people do in the U.S. when they get serious diseases. It must be so tough having to worry about money when you're sick. :confused:
...that sounds rather gloating. I've gone private by choice because the free service here screwed up so many times on really small matters (ear infection, cut that needed stitching, basic stuff, you only need a smattering of first aid and a good standard of english to understand and fix)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoke Laurie
As for testicular cancer, get diagnosis before making any solid decisions about treatment, there's no point speculating until then. None whatsoever.
The cancer should be treated immediately, because it can form metastasis at different organs.
Yep our National health service is a brilliant example to the World.Quote:
Originally Posted by lesli_felix
Sounds like ungrateful winging to me, what's the bit about standard of English about?Quote:
Originally Posted by lesli_felix
Is it whinging or winging?
It's Brit/Aus informal, still curious.
I'm pretty sure that it did cost you. It's just more difficult for you to figure what the number was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoke Laurie
Anyway, coincidentally, I have that exact same problem (umbilical hernia). I've had two completely different takes on what I should do about it. One says I don't even have to bother fixing it and if I do, it's a simple one-stitch operation. The other wants to schedule me right away, install a mesh for support, etc. So, now I have to be the doctor and decide what the best course of actions is!
What did they do to fix yours? Mesh?
What exactly is wrong? Your belly button is falling out?!
not to side track this or anything...
Heh. You could say that.
There's just a small hole in the abdomnial wall that allows my guts to poke through a little bit. It just looks like a little bulge, filling up my belly button.
I was told that there was probably a hole there since childhood and something happened (lifting something heavy probably) that caused it to open a little more. They said that they get hernias that are as big as a persons head regularly. I thought they were joking but I guess it happens. So, after they told me that, I felt like I wasn't getting such a bad deal. :)
It's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoke Laurie
I tried to explain to an NHS dentist that I needed her confirmation that I'd been punched in the face and had my teeth chipped, for police records. She couldn't understand what I was saying and kept insisting that I grind my teeth too much. I gave up in the end and went private just so I could say I'd been assaulted.
Another time a GP refused to help with a very deep cut. Sent me to A&E where I had to have it *stapled* together (they were trying to save money by not using conventional stiches. I still have the scars to prove this)
Thirdly, called another GP a year ago because I'd lost my hearing and could barely speak. I was told to wait at least a week and then call back to make an appointment -- 1.5 hours later I'm in a private consultation being treated and being told that if I had waited, at least one of my eardrums would have burst and that I could have lost my hearing.
One NHS success story I can give you - A Polish girl who worked in a bar near me wanted plastic surgery to correct a slightly asymmetrical nose. She moves to London, fakes an assault the first day she arrives to qualify her for free cosmetic surgery, and has her nose fixed. Sweet.
The NHS is a shining example of how not to do it.
Edit - the first and last story are not connected, I promise.
^ I can give you 50,000 examples of how it is how to do it ( the number of ops performed by the NHS in the last 6 months)
Flashlacky - I had exactly the same situation, as you, probably since birth. Doctor told me that it was best to repair it now, while still plenty young and fit to make a quick recovery. I did have the patch put in, to prevent it happening again. Whole thing was over in 30 minutes general anesthetic. Great attitude from all staff concerned. Sent home to rest, and I have had a phone call from the ward each day since.
And you aren't going to thank me for helping to pay for these ops, despite the fact that I fund my own healthcare?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoke Laurie
This is precisely why the NHS isn't going to last forever, because for every person that can afford healthcare, there are another ten that can't and ignorantly praise the system for giving them more than they put in.
Sorry mate, but I feel very strongly about this. I think its a great idea on paper, but in practice it doesn't work, and because the costs of ops and drugs are hidden from patients, it's left wide open to abuse from those supplying the goods.
In theory the NHS is a great idea but in practice their quality of service varies from location to location and is being constantly abused by health tourists (people from other countries coming over to give birth etc here because it's free).
It's hard to claim our health care is so great and ignore the MRSA infected dirty hospitals but at the same time I've always got a first class service in clean wards although I've never had to have any operations and hopefully never will.
In 50 years of life, I have only made 2 demands on the NHS, 1 to be born and the help I recieved last week. YOU SEE I WAS BORN LUCKY, HEALTHY. Not because of anything I did, I was just 1 of the lucky ones. I have been fit and healthy all my life and contributed to the health care of those who were not so lucky. Sounds like you have a selfish streak to me, lets hope there is someone there to help you when you need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lesli_felix
Having a private health care system does not prevent people from helping each other if it's needed.
I pay for private insurance *and* NHS. How selfish is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stoke Laurie
Yes, I would hope I'll get help if I ever need it, I'm paying for the privilege twice.
Were you born in the UK?
Yes, AFAIK.
what?
AFAIK = As Far As I Know.
You would think he would wouldn't you, however he also seems unclear on simple satements like I feel privilaged in the way that if I had health concerns, I can go and get them checked out for free - seems a no brainer to me.
It's not free. This is where I think you're getting confused. Staff, equipment and medicine cost a lot of money. The fact that people think it's free will be the single most important contributing factor to the NHS's downfall.
Confused? not me son, as I said, I had happily contributed all my working life to have it free on demand, plus there is enough to pay for those who have not been as lucky as me, and have not been healthy enough to contribute, where as your private system only pays for you. Got it now? Good, now can we get back to the poor guy who is worried that he may have a life threatening problem.