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Man what an important speech.
Finally he starts to address what I've been wondering. I think I'm actually in the mans corner now. I understand they'll tell us what ever we want to hear and it remains to be seen if can act on a bit of it, but even if he shoots for the moon, we gotta land somewhere.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XL0KxjeKlrM&feature=user
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZ0gx..._n_122224.html
Without question, the best live speech I've seen in my 40+ years.
Hmm. I found it boring and predictable. It wasn't anything more than a compilation of the same leftist talking points he's been saying for a year now.
I put it in the same category as the other commercials I typically Tevo past.
I can't wait to hear what you will invariably rant and rave about when McCain says one or two words.
After this bore-fest, I am not sure if I will even watch that. I'm sure it will be the same format.
"Stay the course... I was a POW... I know what's good for America..."
There. I just summarized his boring speech in advance for you... saving room on your DVR for something more important.
Like Tele-Tubbies.
I couldn't believe how I was moved by the Obama speech.
It was amazing.
I think I'll pass on watching the republican convention.
I'm going to watch. I need to have my yearly quota of lies and bull**** surpassed in under 3 hours. And then have that lead me to a good night's sleep.
Better than Ambien mixed with crack and good tequila.
Good job on the impartiality. Keep it up! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Frets
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Originally Posted by Frets as interpreted by Hanratty
you Americans are getting WAYYYY too mushy with your ideologies
Has anyone noticed that all of Obama's speeches are the same thing and those in his fan club react the same way after each one?
Every time the response is "its the most moving speech I heard all my life, it moved me to tears."
If that is so, you are way too easily moved to tears.
Now if you average his speeches with his performance on the saddleback forum which isn't pre-scripted, he comes out about average.
I agree. Some people seem to inflate the importance of a good speech. It's as if they think that being president is somehow captured in a moment of talking rather than 4 or more years of making decisions.
The importance of a speech is made even less significant in vetting a president by the increase in availability of information. If all the points a person makes in a speech have either been stated nearly verbatum before or outlined already on a web-site, what is really being gained by listening to it? I don't think it's politics at that point. It's entertainment. It's the fast food of politics. The McBama with cheese value meal.
That said, I don't even think Obama is that great of a speaker. He is charming and likeable to me in interviews. But, when he gets behind a podium, he starts using this phony, inflated drone voice. It reminds me of the guy at the beach who tries to keep his stomach flexed the whole time.
"Charming and likeable (sic)..." as opposed to McCain? What is he by your character assessment?
Hahaha, sounds like SOME people are a little bitter that their candidate can't inspire the people, doesn't have any family values, has no new ideas, has no clue about the economy, has absolutely no plan on how to pay for his proposals, is a flipflopper with zero integrity, and is about as likeable as a Uncle Ruckus.
:D
Don't worry, you guys can still go find some of the great and truly inspiring rightwing speeches on youtube from the 1930's... some of them even have English subtitles. ;)
I would say that he is grating and smug, actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick
Not at all. I just think that some people are more inclined to want to feel good about something than to put time into research and sincere thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loyal Rogue
Isn't "He's going to be a great leader, just listen to is amazing speeches" what the Germans said when they were electing Hitler?
So presidents shouldnt be able to make good speeches?Quote:
Isn't "He's going to be a great leader, just listen to is amazing speeches" what the Germans said when they were electing Hitler?
I think its good that Obama can talk well. The idea is that a president should be able to inspire the people to action. A lot of the time, these president/prime-ministers only worry about speaking well enough to get people to vote for them, so we'll see how this turns out. Obama being who he is, I'm sure he won't be given much room for messing around. The way he was talking the other day, made me worry for his life already.
I really don't care how well they can speak. I don't care if they can talk. As long as they can properly run the country.
There's a difference between talking and walking.
How do you read a country? Is it like brail?
Wow, judging by some of the posts here it seems that being a great orator is a negative trait.
Public speaking is a skill and a useful tool for any politician to have. To captivate audiences, whether they be the american public or other nations of the world, is one of Obama's big pluses. It's a far cry from the Bushisms we've all had to endure over the last 8 years.
It isn't a negative trait by any means, but people should pick a president based on what they are going to do, not what they're saying or how they're saying it.
After 8 straight years of a complete ****ing idiot, it's surprising that anything more eloquent would be so loathed.
I guess that is indicative of how stupid people really have become. Vote for the ex-cokehead/DUI/liar/stumble on any multi-syllabic word cretin, avoid the person that can express more than one emotion and actually say something besides "Terrer, newclear, and asses uv evul"...
Whatever happened to wanting the top position in the US to be something to aspire to, not some C-student mediocrity. It sickens me, all of it.
I've just found out what he's been doing the last years. He is a great filmmaker:D
http://www.whitehouse.gov/holiday/2007/barneycam.html
This is a classic Karl Rove tactic.Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick
Take your opponent's strength and make it seem like a weakness.
Obama is a very strong speaker.
Very intelligent, eloquent, inspiring, and very populist.
That is the whole reason behind the "Celebrity" and "Nothing but a speech" bull**** that the smearmerchants are pushing.
Unfortunately, you hit it right on the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick
America has been dumbed-down for so long that it's easy for the Hitler wannbe rightwing to lead them to vote against their own best interests by using the exact same fear, religion, and xenophobic tactics that worked on 1930's Germany
I think of the same thing everytime I hear the rightwing try to smear their opponent with the "Elitist" label.Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick
Funny.... it seems that other countries like having someone who is "Elite" or smarter than the average person in charge of the whole country and the various parts of the government.
Only here in America do we seem to want a total ignoramous and FK-up to be the boss, and to appoint the other screwups and unqualified cronies to be in charge of every part of our government.
Think about it.
After 9/11, one of the worst government failures and national disasters in our history, who gets put in charge of FEMA? Who is in charge of coordinating the entire country in case of catastrophe?
A FKing horse judge.
This is how Bush protects us?
No wonder the RNC thinks that McCain/Palin is a winning combination.
A total screwup who graduates at the bottom of his class, and the female "Dan Quayle" who's barely qualified to be elected Dog Catcher and will most likely be in charge of the whole country when McCain keels over.
God save us if they can get close enough to steal it again.
:scared:
"Republicans run on the platform that government doesn't work, then they get elected and prove it."