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Hey Guys,
I just published my revenue from last 3 years.
It looks like this:http://theelitegames.net/img/overall_20101215.png
if you anyhow intrested how indie-flash-gamedevelopers do -
more details, numbers and facts - here.
merry XMas and Happy new Year!
is that good or bad?
why isn't the pie chart 3d?
the chart should have pictures of unicorns. that would make me look at it. yeah. unicorns. that's the ticket.
Need more information. Like... what were your expenses, your take home pay and what exactly is "Other"? Mafia paybacks?
in soviet russia mafia pays you.
Where: Licenses - money from selling exclusive/primary licenses, Ads - money from advertisements, Others - selling url-locks, non-exclusive, sources, Portal - money from ads on portal (there are other sources of income there, but they are all small and all less than $100), Micro - money from micro-payments.Quote:
Originally Posted by gerbick
just checkout blog post - full text there:
http://blog.elite-games.net/blog4.ph...adim-2008-2011
Now that's more info. Kudos to you for doing quite well. I can only wish for more luck for you in the coming year(s).
phew, that's a big number there mate. anyway, time for my nap.
Nice figures Badim, and it's been a stellar year for Indie developers hasn't it? Specifically Mojang Specification's runaway success comes to mind.
Btw are those are revenue figures before expense right?
В чем смысл показывать свои доходы на этом форуме?
На каком-нибудь русском это может и произведет впечатление, и то не особое
145 килобаксов за 3 года - это не так уж много
Эрм, вообще-то 145 штук, пусть даже за 3 года, это очень прилично. Даже для США. Вадим молодец - делал бы я столько же, тоже бы хвастался :p
А я бы не хвастался, деньги любят тишину :d
Но все равно, 145 штук - 45 в год. Для россии хорошо, для штатов не очень
Эрм, вообще-то 145 штук, пусть даже за 3 года. каком-нибудь русском это может.
свои доходы на этом форуме!
Ну, вы там в России видимо очень хорошо о Штатах думаете.Quote:
Originally Posted by caseyryan
wtf?Quote:
Originally Posted by flashlackey
это флешлаки опять решил выпендриться :d
Он русских ннавидит, а умишки не хватает выразить мысли подругому ))
уже неоднократно с ним были холивары
Может и так, я могу рассуждать об этом лишь со слов других. Одна знакомая в техасе работает медсестрой, как она говорила, зарплата дипломированной медсестры - 100 тысяч в год. Может и врет, хз.Quote:
Ну, вы там в России видимо очень хорошо о Штатах думаете.
Но про саму Россию, могу утверждать со 100% уверенностью :D
скорее всего так и есть, только она умалчивает о mortgage payments, medical bills, taxes, car insurance и прочие fked up costs. зарабатывают ли они больше? - да, но и тратят они ГОРАЗДО больше.
That's a good base for wages.
Did you also have a part-time/full-time job to suppliment that income?
We make a very small percentage of our revenue from web-work and real estate compared to my regular $60-70k job that pays the bills.
I'm hoping to reverse that ratio sometime in the near future and not be dependant on someone else's business plan to pay my bills.
It would be ideal if our web business expanded, as well as one of our organic vineyard/honey/wine/tea/restaurant/cafe ideas took off to fill that financial gap and let us be independant of someone else's direct influence over our income.
The American Dream... here's hoping that the Republicans haven't completely sold us out to the multi-national corporations yet.
God knows I haven't been able to compete in the retail market for the last 15-20 years against them.
Printing supplies, pet supplies, restaurant equipment, carpentry tools, etc... you bastards!
(Where the hell is our trade protection?!? Why the huge trade deficit?!? Why doesn't "American Made" and quality mean anything since Reagan and his boot-licking followers took over the whitehouse, the GOP, and sold our country to the lowest bidder?!? WTF!?! All foreign multi-national supply-side economics and no American non-debt based demand-side economics... leads Johnny into financial ruin.)
В России, зарабатывать можно только в обход закона. Если платить все налоги, то так же ничего не заработаешь. Обдерут до нитки.Quote:
Originally Posted by MechaPiano
Но радует одно, что пока еще можно ухитряться обходить закон.
Loyal Rogue, you're not alone with that. I can assure you, Russia is even more crappy now
American made still means something where I'm from, LR. Not sure what the Russians are going on about but I think it has to do with whether that's a good income in America or if it's actually about what a male nurse makes in 18 months.
Say there's a guy who charges $500 a month in the US to do full-time server consulting, and a company in India that charges $50 a month for the same thing. American made means the guy in the US can afford to have 1/10th as many customers, and they're all going to be happier... but he's still not making what he wants to make. It's relative. Expenses in the US are huge. Insurance, car, rent, etc. The real trick is to do what I did...earn in US dollars, pay taxes to keep your passport, and live in the rest of the world.
i`m not bragging - just showing how much flash-game-development can do. and its not to brag about - i`m average gamedev, with average games - no hits =(Quote:
Originally Posted by caseyryan
nope - just this, nothing more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loyal Rogue
but, as everybody says - live in russia cheaper and somewhere worse then in US. but i live 50 km from Poland - so i can buy better and cheaper stuff there. same for vacation and trips to europe - they cost me almost nothing(just gas expenses - rest is 0$).
and I have 2 children - that is very expensive =)
that one of the things that CHEAPER in US, then in Russia =(
Great post, glad you are doing well for yourself.
Got me thinking about living overseas (currently live in NYC), I had looked into it a few years ago but it didn't seem like it would be too easy to do being a US citizen and living in a foreign country.
actually - its quite fun =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hellsbellboy
i have met many US people who living in Europe. One of the percs - after few years living in Swiss you can get Swiss ID and visit Cuba! =)(for example =))